DENVER | Main Development Thread #7

[DenvertoLA]

so does anyone have comment on why there isn't any condo towers being proposed?

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by DenvertoLA

so does anyone have comment on why there isn't any condo towers being proposed?

They're waiting for the Holidays?

Originally Posted by seventwenty

Amazon in advanced talks about putting HQ2 in Northern Virginia, those close to process say

EDIT/UPDATE: Amazon in Late-Stage Talks With Cities Including Crystal City, Va., Dallas, New York City for HQ2

That could cause Cirrus to be found wandering the streets late at night
wondering "how are we going to move all these people."

[CherryCreek]

Originally Posted by CherryCreek

Sure, they had 200 submissions, but anyone who read the RFP could (and many in the media did) quickly eliminate all except for about 20 or fewer cities.

The whole process seems contrived and postured. Are they really considering 20 cities? Or it is a combination of a "PR game" (oooh, so many WONDERFUL cities to chose from, we LOVE you all) and a "stalking horse" strategy to pressure the "real" 2 or 3 cities on which they've focused their interest.

If you are at Amazon with responsibility for this project, read your own damn RFP, know the corporate culture, know what's most important for Amazon, and know what your marching orders are from Bezos, then you are a complete idiot if you can't quickly get your choices down to 3-5 cities.

I suspect that's been done, and this is all a big drama queen show by Bezos and Amazon to solicit ever more groveling (and positive publicity about the glories of Amazon) from all of the candidates before they get down to business with a very small number of serious targets.

Also: it wouldn't' surprise me if Amazon said, after all the proposals, that "we've changed our mind", we've decided to split Hq2 between 2 or 3 cities. This actually makes more sense in my view - putting that many jobs and investments in a single city (unless it's Chicago, NY or LA), will just drive up your own costs and re-create the problem that caused Amazon to look beyond Seattle in the first instance.

Per Wall Street Journal, this is exactly what Amazon is going to do: announce that HQ2 has become HQ2 plus HQ3. It's going to split the 2nd headquarters between two cities.

[twister244]

So the big question of course is where does Denver sit with the "competition". Reporting over the last several days seem to indicate Denver has fallen to the wayside along with other cities such as Philly,Nashville, etc.

It's entirely possible though that there have been advanced talks, and we just haven't heard about it yet.

But.... seems to me increasingly we won't be on the short list, final list, or whatever it is at this point.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by CherryCreek

Per Wall Street Journal, this is exactly what Amazon is going to do: announce that HQ2 has become HQ2 plus HQ3. It's going to split the 2nd headquarters between two cities.

This is how Reuters quotes the WSJ article:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amazo...arters-wall-street-journal-idUSKCN1N90OW

Talks with the leading contenders are likely in different phases, while discussions with some of the others on Amazon’s shortlist have cooled, the newspaper reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

The world’s largest retailer may announce plans to place smaller operations in cities that come in as runner-ups, sources told the WSJ

This would make more sense, reminds me more of what State Farm did. They'll still pick one primary HQ2 city but it won't be as yuge as first thought. Then they'll also set up a couple of regional offices, maybe (north) Dallas and Chicago or Muncie IN, who knows.

EDIT: Oops; missed that your article was updated from the original.

[Matt]

A double-decker Airbus A380 landed in Denver for the first time last night.


https://coloradosun.com/2018/11/05/a380-denver-air-france-first-time/

Pretty interesting milestone for Denver - we landed our first Airbus A380 in history (and first Air France tail) due to a passenger's medical issue forcing a flight diversion:



^Yes, that's Denver shining in the background.

Obviously it's extremely unlikely we'll ever see this plane again, but KDEN built Runway 16R/34L at 16,000' long in order to accomodate a plane of this size. We are the only "diversion airport" within an 800-mile radius on this segment of the Paris-Los Angeles route with the runway length to handle the A380. Both British Airways and Lufthansa also roster these planes, but Denver doesn't have the O&D traffic to justify using the plane. Additionally, KDEN doesn't have the gate accomodations nor the specialized de-icing trucks to handle the plane.

Pretty nice feeling to know that, for at least a few hours, Denver hosted both an A380 and an Air France tail; two things that will likely never happen again. Also worthy of note, Denver hosted the Concorde (at Stapleton) when former British Prime Minister Tony Blair attended the global summit we held in the early 1990s.

[BG918]

Very cool to see an A380 in Denver. You're right Air France and especially an A380 is unlikely to make regular appearances at DEN at least in the foreseeable future.

I wish we could get United to at least offer daily nonstop service to CDG on the Dreamliner. Norwegian currently flies the route but it's seasonal and only 3x/week during the summer. That would probably be the max for Europe flights with the existing daily non-stops to London, Frankfurt, Munich and Reykjavik and seasonal service to Paris and Zurich. Istanbul on Turkish Airlines would be a nice get and plausible considering they are in Star Alliance.

[PhilipDDG]

Pretty interesting milestone for Denver - we landed our first Airbus A380 in history (and first Air France tail) due to a passenger's medical issue forcing a flight diversion:


^Yes, that's Denver shining in the background.

Obviously it's extremely unlikely we'll ever see this plane again, but KDEN built Runway 16R/34L at 16,000' long in order to accomodate a plane of this size. We are the only "diversion airport" within an 800-mile radius on this segment of the Paris-Los Angeles route with the runway length to handle the A380. Both British Airways and Lufthansa also roster these planes, but Denver doesn't have the O&D traffic to justify using the plane. Additionally, KDEN doesn't have the gate accomodations nor the specialized de-icing trucks to handle the plane.

Pretty nice feeling to know that, for at least a few hours, Denver hosted both an A380 and an Air France tail; two things that will likely never happen again. Also worthy of note, Denver hosted the Concorde (at Stapleton) when former British Prime Minister Tony Blair attended the global summit we held in the early 1990s.[/QUOTE]


Hey Matt, you might want to check your information sources. Indeed, DIA does have the gate capacity to handle an A380 (see flydenver.com or the Denver International Airport Facebook page). Also, Denver's Summit of the Eight took place in 1997, and Tony Blair landed and took off from DIA in a British Airways Concorde. Local news sources such as the Denver Post have pics.

I have a big-A pair of binoculars and have watched the Air France A380 fly over Denver a few times enroute from LAX to CDG. Sure wish I had known it was coming into Denver when it did.

[CherryCreek]

Nice update on 17th and Pearl in DenverInfill.

https://denverinfill.com/blog/2018/11/17th-pearl-update-2.html

The original drawings were mediocre, and I really wondered whether we might see a bit of fugliness invade an otherwise great neighborhood.

The new drawings posted on DenverInfill show a very attractive building. Love the mix of materials, colors and forms. And to boot the project saved a very nice historic building. Love the rooftop cafe.




Now, if only we could get rid of the 7-Eleven across the street.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pearl+...855e7384!8m2!3d39.7432703!4d-104.9798992

Will be fun to follow and see how it translates in into the real world, but lot of potential here to be a really nice building.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by CherryCreek

Nice update on 17th and Pearl in DenverInfill.

Great minds.... I just happened to find this today, too.

Going back in time, I can recall wondering "who are these guys"? BTW, I was was in favor of retaining the historical buildings and happy about what was worked out. Southern Land is a good example, it turns out, of a lower production (than many) but solid developer with INDE Uptown being only their 2nd Denver project - they also built a project in Boulder.

In any case I also discovered that Southern Land opened a Denver office in September of last year.

http://southernland.com/project/southern-land-company-opens-denver-office/

SOUTHERN LAND COMPANY OPENS DENVER OFFICE

NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Southern Land Company (SLC), a national developer of mixed use developments and master planned communities, announced today the opening of a new regional office in Denver, Colorado to manage its area projects and expand its Mountain and West development strategy.

“With the volume of work that Southern Land Company is experiencing in the Denver MSA, it only made sense to establish a strategic and permanent position in the Denver area. This location not only allows us to execute on current projects, but also will be a great base to expand our footprint in the region and to stage our investment in Western U.S. markets,” said Tim Downey, Southern Land Company founder and CEO.

Why Denver?

“We have projects across the country, but we only open regional offices in areas where we make a long-term commitment to work in. We’re bullish on the Denver region and plan to expand our activity in the area while utilizing this new office as an outpost to stage investment in Western markets that are ideal for Southern Land communities.”

I look forward to learning 'what's next.'

P.S. - I did my civic duty today by dropping off five ballots at different sites.

[bunt_q]

Originally Posted by CherryCreek

Nice update on 17th and Pearl in DenverInfill.

https://denverinfill.com/blog/2018/11/17th-pearl-update-2.html

The original drawings were mediocre, and I really wondered whether we might see a bit of fugliness invade an otherwise great neighborhood.

The new drawings posted on DenverInfill show a very attractive building. Love the mix of materials, colors and forms. And to boot the project saved a very nice historic building. Love the rooftop cafe.




Now, if only we could get rid of the 7-Eleven across the street.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pearl+...855e7384!8m2!3d39.7432703!4d-104.9798992

Will be fun to follow and see how it translates in into the real world, but lot of potential here to be a really nice building.

Beautiful project.

[CastleScott]

Nice pic of that A380 Matt-thanks bro-it use to be said that one reason that DIA would not let them land is the thrust from the engines blow so much debris on the runways that it takes much unneeded time to clean for the next traffic. Oh btw when I use to work at DIA back a few yrs ago-I would see quite often that huge Russian plane out in the air air cargo area.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by bunt_q

Beautiful project.

Well said.

Which reminds me...

Originally Posted by RyanD

I made that avatar.

I missed that (or didn't recall). What I do recall is that I had just recently found the 'transportation' thread; seems there was some noise around avatars.... so now I have the missing link.

Oh btw:


Credit: CBS4 Denver

They snuck in a groundbreaking for another beauty in East Denver.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/11/05/more-affordable-housing-coming-to-aurora/

Officials celebrated a groundbreaking ceremony for “Peoria Crossing” at 30th Avenue and Peoria Street.

[rds70]

Amacon has submitted a Site Development Plan application for the 18th and Glenarm project. They are moving pretty fast, as they just got Concept Plan approval a few weeks ago.

Site Plan - XREF 17PM455 Two multi-family dwelling towers, one 38-story and one 32-story, in the D-C UO-1 zone district: Ground level includes residential lobbies for the north and south towers, retail fronting 18th Street, Glenarm Place, and Broadway, service zones, and access to parking garage levels. Parking - two levels of below grade parking, as well as a seven-level parking podium across the full site (levels 2-8), accessed from the alley. South residential tower fronting 18th Street. 275 for-sale condominiums at levels 9-38, ranging from studios to three-bedroom units. North residential tower fronting Broadway. 202 for-sale condominiums at levels 9-32, including, ranging from one-bedroom to three-bedroom units. Residential amenities for both towers and pool deck at Level 9. The project intends to comply with the applicable design guidelines through the design review process, particularly related to the lower 80 feet of the building.

The project was originally planned with 39 and 30 story towers and 478 units, so one tower got a floor shorter, the other one 2 floors taller and they lost one unit.

[DenvertoLA]

Ooh myyy. Is there any graphics for this project ?

They bought the land this year too.


"A Canadian developer has purchased a 0.65-acre parking lot at the edge of the Central Business District.

Vancouver-based Amacon paid $8.8 million last month for 1801 and 1817 Glenarm Place, as well as 1901 and 1917 Broadway, according to property records."

https://businessden.com/2018/04/05/canadian-developer-pays-9m-half-acre-downtown/

[The Dirt]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

Well said.

Which reminds me...


I missed that (or didn't recall). What I do recall is that I had just recently found the 'transportation' thread; seems there was some noise around avatars.... so now I have the missing link.

Oh btw:


Credit: CBS4 Denver

They snuck in a groundbreaking for another beauty in East Denver.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/11/05/more-affordable-housing-coming-to-aurora/

Rendering for anyone that cares about Aurora development in a Denver development thread:

https://www.aurorahousing.org/development/current-development-projects/

[The Dirt]

Originally Posted by DenvertoLA

Ooh myyy. Is there any graphics for this project ?

I'm sure a certain someone here can PM me the renderings and know that I will be discreet.

[PLANSIT]

Originally Posted by rds70

Amacon has submitted a Site Development Plan application for the 18th and Glenarm project. They are moving pretty fast, as they just got Concept Plan approval a few weeks ago.



The project was originally planned with 39 and 30 story towers and 478 units, so one tower got a floor shorter, the other one 2 floors taller and they lost one unit.

Looks like 414' and 349' respectively.

[Meliorem]

Originally Posted by rds70

Amacon has submitted a Site Development Plan application for the 18th and Glenarm project. They are moving pretty fast, as they just got Concept Plan approval a few weeks ago.



The project was originally planned with 39 and 30 story towers and 478 units, so one tower got a floor shorter, the other one 2 floors taller and they lost one unit.

That is great news for Denver.

Maybe we'll see something similar to Amacon's The Park Residences in Mississauga.

[CherryCreek]

Originally Posted by Meliorem

That is great news for Denver.

Maybe we'll see something similar to Amacon's The Park Residences in Mississauga.

Looking at Amacon's website, they have a dozen or more building designs I'd gladly take here.

Canada gets such great high rise condos - would be nice to share a least a little of that wealth of good design with their poorer cousins down south.