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J.OT13 · #**8501** Posted **Nov 3, 2018, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-Town Hockey

There's something exciting about taking a relatively blank slate like Lebreton and starting with transit as the backbone. I think starting with a solid downtown backbone and tunnel for the transit system will prove to be one of the best decisions this city ever made. This area is gonna see some REAL TOD the likes of which we have never seen! If only things happened on a little faster time scale....

I'm looking forward to see how RVL will integrate Pimisi into the development. Although covering the running tracks should be fairly straightforward, building Canada Drive (C.D.) around Pimisi and adding entrances (maybe) to the C.D. level will require innovative solutions. Another question surrounding this is what they will do with the entrance at the MUP level. Aqueduct side should stay relatively the same based on renderings, but the south side of that pedestrian tunnel under Pimisi will be under the new development. Possibly an entrance to the parking garage or underground retail?

OCCheetos · #**8502** Posted **Nov 3, 2018, 4:05 PM**

Jan Harder on the shortage of buses:
https://www.facebook.com/100004149820555/posts/1158080071006976/

Edit: Meant to post this on the OC Transpo thread... but.. oops

J.OT13 · #**8503** Posted **Nov 3, 2018, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Interesting. They are probably negotiating a launch date. From yesterday's pics, they actually look like they'll be done by the end of November. I wonder what the minor deficiencies list looks like when they rushed like this.

The surface stations and Lyon look like they could be ready this month, but Rideau and Parliament seem to be a few months behind based on the pictures. Even the entrances (Parliament at least, haven't been to Rideau in a while) are still a construction zone.

Truenorth00 · #**8504** Posted **Nov 3, 2018, 7:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

The surface stations and Lyon look like they could be ready this month, but Rideau and Parliament seem to be a few months behind based on the pictures. Even the entrances (Parliament at least, haven't been to Rideau in a while) are still a construction zone.

I think they can finish construction by the end of November if they really pushed. But they don't seem to be doing that. I am happy to see that all the exterior work will be complete by the end of the month.

Hopefully, they can get to a point where they can do the operational testing in late December/early Jan. I am still predicting a launch in February.

kmcamp · #**8505** Posted **Nov 3, 2018, 9:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

The surface stations and Lyon look like they could be ready this month, but Rideau and Parliament seem to be a few months behind based on the pictures. Even the entrances (Parliament at least, haven't been to Rideau in a while) are still a construction zone.

They are, but some of the construction is the unrelated Queen St Fare. They actually seemed to be feverishly working at the surface level in Friday, and they were installing wayfinding signage at street level. I think they are still in "student cramming mode"

Truenorth00 · #**8506** Posted **Nov 3, 2018, 9:24 PM**

I hope Manconi shows a tad more nerve and pushes for a lot of that minor deficiencies list to also be fixed by launch.

Uhuniau · #**8507** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 1:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by zzptichka

Oh don't worry there will be about 148 different signs blocking the sidewalk, bike path and obstruction the view. City loves signs.

And there will still be entitled and sanctimonious cyclists whinging about all those stupid transit passengers getting in the stupid way.

lrt's friend · #**8508** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 2:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by Uhuniau

And there will still be entitled and sanctimonious cyclists whinging about all those stupid transit passengers getting in the stupid way.

Just run those transit passenger and other pedestrians down or ride on the sidewalk if their way is blocked. Maybe a minority but they ruin it for all.

Kitchissippi · #**8509** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 1:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Uhuniau

And there will still be entitled and sanctimonious cyclists whinging about all those stupid transit passengers getting in the stupid way.

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

Just run those transit passenger and other pedestrians down or ride on the sidewalk if their way is blocked. Maybe a minority but they ruin it for all.

"OMG, a caravan of sanctimonious cyclists is coming to take over your space and run you over. There are criminals and pillagers among them!!!"

What's with all the implied vilification of a group when there is actually very little conflict in much of the shared spaces in this city? There are just as many pedestrians who feel they can walk willy-nilly on both the sidewalk and the bike tracks or even the road. Some people actually need to learn how to walk predictably.

roger1818 · #**8510** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 2:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

"OMG, a caravan of sanctimonious cyclists is coming to take over your space and run you over. There are criminals and pillagers among them!!!"

What's with all the implied vilification of a group when there is actually very little conflict in much of the shared spaces in this city? There are just as many pedestrians who feel they can walk willy-nilly on both the sidewalk and the bike tracks or even the road. Some people actually need to learn how to walk predictably.

Calm down. lrt's friend did say, "Maybe a minority but they ruin it for all." It was also kind of implied by Uhuniau. There are bad apples in all demographic groups. The key is to make it obvious they are in the wrong (hence my comment about a sign) and to limit the damage they can do.

EDIT: I would have kept the bike lane at road level (with curbs on either side) and then had a rolled curb to raise it up to the level of the crosswalk. The rolled curb would help slow down the cyclists during a region of potential conflict (though admittedly, some might use it as a jump).

From Building Code Discussion Group

J.OT13 · #**8511** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 6:55 PM**

Pimisi

https://twitter.com/Sean_YYZ/status/1058824733762871297

scryer · #**8512** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 8:51 PM**

The "O" beacons look like giant red life-savers. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it makes me a little hungry.

OtrainUser · #**8513** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 9:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by scryer

The "O" beacons look like giant red life-savers. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it makes me a little hungry.

Well then that just might create new business opportunities with that kind of thinking.

Catenary · #**8514** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 11:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by roger1818

Calm down. lrt's friend did say, "Maybe a minority but they ruin it for all." It was also kind of implied by Uhuniau. There are bad apples in all demographic groups. The key is to make it obvious they are in the wrong (hence my comment about a sign) and to limit the damage they can do.

EDIT: I would have kept the bike lane at road level (with curbs on either side) and then had a rolled curb to raise it up to the level of the crosswalk. The rolled curb would help slow down the cyclists during a region of potential conflict (though admittedly, some might use it as a jump).

From Building Code Discussion Group

I much prefer keeping the sidewalk and cycle track at different levels, to keep pedestrians from wandering into the cycle track without noticing, and cyclists off the sidewalk. The NCC did this well on Mackenzie Avenue, but the city's default design encourages people to use the wrong path.

I do wish the rolled curbs were used more often though, especially on places like the Trillium MUP. A barrier curb can cause significant injury if you clip it on a bicycle, a rolled curb less so. Generally, it's also a more accessible design.

sseguin · #**8515** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 1:05 AM**

Several updates on O-Train Fans today...

Snapshots for
uOttawa and Lees Stations : https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/snapshot-of-uottawa-and-lees-stations
Hurdman and Tremblay Stations : https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/snapshot-of-hurdman-and-tremblay-stations-november-4-2018
St. Laurent Station : https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/snapshot-of-st-laurent-station-november-4-2018

Enjoy!

J.OT13 · #**8516** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 3:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by sseguin

Several updates on O-Train Fans today...

Snapshots for
uOttawa and Lees Stations : https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/snapshot-of-uottawa-and-lees-stations
Hurdman and Tremblay Stations : https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/snapshot-of-hurdman-and-tremblay-stations-november-4-2018
St. Laurent Station : https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/snapshot-of-st-laurent-station-november-4-2018

Enjoy!

Thanks for your work. Stations look awesome!

Truenorth00 · #**8517** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 3:02 AM**

These pics are disheartening. Depending on when they were taken, they look to be at least a full 3-4 week till a state on which they can turn the keys over. And that's the easy stations in the East.

I'm starting to feel like the City needs to get more aggressive with RTG.

Uhuniau · #**8518** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 5:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by OtrainUser

Well then that just might create new business opportunities with that kind of thinking.

In a year, after the new regulations are published, maybe even some, y'know, special lifesavers...

J.OT13 · #**8519** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 6:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by sseguin

Several updates on O-Train Fans today...

Snapshots for
uOttawa and Lees Stations : https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/snapshot-of-uottawa-and-lees-stations
Hurdman and Tremblay Stations : https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/snapshot-of-hurdman-and-tremblay-stations-november-4-2018
St. Laurent Station : https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/snapshot-of-st-laurent-station-november-4-2018

Enjoy!

Here are some highlights. Sorry for the long post, hard to pick just a few;

uOttawa

Lees, and what I believe is our first nearly complete light box

Hurdman

Tremblay (VIA Rail)

St-Laurent

sseguin · #**8520** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 11:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00

These pics are disheartening. Depending on when they were taken, they look to be at least a full 3-4 week till a state on which they can turn the keys over. And that's the easy stations in the East.

I'm starting to feel like the City needs to get more aggressive with RTG.

The photos were all taken yesterday between 2pm and 5:30pm. In order from uOttawa to St Laurent.

Hoping to visit the other stations over the coming week. More updates to come.