Great Canadian Skyline Thread II - Page 469

J.OT13 · #**9361** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 2:37 PM**

Ottawa

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different perspective. View from Somerset at Trillium line:

Martin Mtl · #**9362** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 6:03 PM**

Credit photo: Kevin Rodger on Flickr

isaidso · #**9363** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 6:13 PM**

Waiting for the day when Montreal's swath of towers reaches the Jacques Cartier bridge. Maybe that's where Montreal can build taller as it's quite far from Mont Royal.

GreaterMontréal · #**9364** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 6:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Waiting for the day when Montreal's swath of towers reaches the Jacques Cartier bridge. Maybe that's where Montreal can build taller as it's quite far from Mont Royal.

The height limit is about 45-65m, east of Saint-Denis street.

Djesus777 · #**9365** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 7:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Waiting for the day when Montreal's swath of towers reaches the Jacques Cartier bridge. Maybe that's where Montreal can build taller as it's quite far from Mont Royal.

Slowly but surely! it'll start with the mix-used development where the CBC tower is (with 8-15 floor highrises). That area will mainly be 20-25 floors but give it time and pressure to build up and then it'll start.

isaidso · #**9366** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 7:56 PM**

^^ That's what I'm expecting too. Montreal's future downtown may rise here and there's no reason whatsoever to have a height restriction in this area. Keep the 200m restriction in the current downtown and put taller buildings east to the bridge; 100-400m.

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Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

The height limit is about 45-65m, east of Saint-Denis street.

Surely as Montreal's downtown grows/expands east old regulations won't make much sense any more. Maison Radio-Canada is 105m and Hôtel Gouverneur Place Dupuis is 108m.

Martin Mtl · #**9367** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 8:10 PM**

The aversion to height in Montreal is very strong. Densification will come with 15 to 25 high-rises all over for the next decades. Not much taller, except in the core of downtown.

Credit photo: @dasinst202pix on Instagram

mousquet · #**9368** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 8:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

The aversion to height in Montreal is very strong. Densification will come with 15 to 25 high-rises all over for the next decades.

Same here in France, obviously, but I assume the Hermitage twin towers in Paris (both 320m, that would be something huge here) would be some significant game changer, at least if ever built...
It's taking forever, but the developer spent much money in his project yet (something like €200 million, the whole thing costing €2.8 billion), so I still have faith it will eventually be built.

In this optimistic case, I would expect the state of mind to change over there in Quebec as well, in that respect.
Not that you guys are supposed to do the same as the French, but you know, there's just been the language and cultural connection and all.

Besides, there's an ambitious project called Phare in Quebec City. If they built this one for real, it could be a little embarrassing for Montreal, as if San Francisco's tallest was taller than LA's.

Hopefully the Fr-speaking mindset changes positively sometime soon in that matter of tall towers.
Notice that the type of density you're mentioning would be even greater IMO, but taller buildings wouldn't prevent it from being developed anyway.
We can afford both, right?

Martin Mtl · #**9369** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 8:54 PM**

In Montreal the rule that no building should be higher than Mont-Royal (230 meters above sea level) is like a religion: it makes no sense, but elected officials believe in it blindly, without ever questioning it, like a taboo. It is so profoundly ingrained in the local collective mind, that I doubt it will ever change. But who knows ?

mousquet · #**9370** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 9:13 PM**

^ Yeah, of course I heard of this quite a couple of times on here.
I find it quite a bit silly too, really. It's not like Rio's Christ the Redeemer would be standing on their Mont Royal.
I doubt this constraint of theirs would go on forever, simply because it doesn't appear to make much sense.

isaidso · #**9371** Posted **Nov 4, 2018, 9:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

The aversion to height in Montreal is very strong. Densification will come with 15 to 25 high-rises all over for the next decades. Not much taller, except in the core of downtown.

It may very well play out like that but it's also worth noting that in the 1960s Montrealers were very much interested in tall buildings. So much so that in 1964 Montreal had taller buildings than Chicago. If the culture can change one way it surely can change back again. Tall buildings are the modern world's palaces and the entire planet has become enamoured with them. It will be increasingly difficult for Montreal to buck the trend indefinitely.

FrAnKs · #**9372** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 1:32 AM**

Let's start a fresh page

FrAnKs · #**9373** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 1:32 AM**

Québec City from the air by Pier-Olivier Veilleux on FlickR
https://www.flickr.com/people/pier-olivier_veilleux_cysg/

Chadillaccc · #**9374** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 1:35 AM**

Yowza! That is one gorgeous city.

FrAnKs · #**9375** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 1:37 AM**

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Yowza! That is one gorgeous city.

I've always said it, it's Canada's Boston.

Chadillaccc · #**9376** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 1:43 AM**

Yeah it kinda really is, but I'd imagine even more unique relatively. What is the suburb of Levis like? Is it nice as well? Just asking as I'm aware that it's a large and old city on its own.

FrAnKs · #**9377** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 2:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Yeah it kinda really is, but I'd imagine even more unique relatively. What is the suburb of Levis like? Is it nice as well? Just asking as I'm aware that it's a large and old city on its own.

Yeah, it's the closest I could find when I try to compare it with other cities... but I agree with you, this place is one of its kind in North America.

As for Lévis, I think you would be pleasantly surprised by this city !
Yes, it became a large suburb, but you can still find untouched old villages cores here and there. The most important being the one near Lévis Downtown facing old Québec City. Take a look at the following links :

https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.8181868,-...gQQwcp4IzYJCzvUiy-ZpA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.8061403,-...P2Gk1j7ORhk7_tgKXVFRw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.7136068,-...Sl4WpcqgetdyMXt3AkZuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.7594667,-...yUHpRshS5FCjUji-5xy6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.7955878,-...2vDuPS-p02gke1VfA3hfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.8251257,-...ftdGPMWtRlW7uJibtVEcg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.806817,-7...GheLGj6rwNc9jUF2YOfkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Btw, I took some pictures of Québec City last summer :

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=234936

J.OT13 · #**9378** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 3:13 AM**

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The funny thing is Toronto has 6 downtowns within 30 mins of union station. Toronto, Y&E, NYCC, Humber Bay shores, STC, MCC. That pic only shows 3 of them.

To you guys an idea of the scale of this photo, to get from North York City Center subway station (at the bottom) to Union Station (at the top), it takes over 30 minutes (by subway!) and about an hour by car. Toronto is yuge! This is why we say subways, subways, subways! All those urban clusters are at the intersection of two main transit lines (either heavy rail subway or underground LRT).

I feel like we could have an entire thread dedicated to business districts in our cities, downtown and beyond. Ottawa has more or least five (Downtown Ottawa, Downtown Gatineau (Hull), Tunney's Pasture, Confederation Heights and Kanata North, all of them mostly governmental, except Kanata which is a tech hub.

It's always fascinating to see these huge tower districts around subway stations in Toronto. We've seen that in Vancouver as well, but less so in Montreal, Calgary and Edmonton, though that's starting to change. In Ottawa, we are seeing a lot of new proposals along the Confederation and Trillium, Stage 1 and 2.

Acajack · #**9379** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 1:59 PM**

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To you guys an idea of the scale of this photo, to get from North York City Center subway station (at the bottom) to Union Station (at the top), it takes over 30 minutes (by subway!) and about an hour by car. Toronto is yuge! .

Toronto is pretty huge but it's only about 15 km from Union to North York Centre. That shouldn't normally take an hour by car, and only speaks to how horrendous the traffic problems are in Toronto.

suburbanite · #**9380** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 2:28 PM**

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Toronto is pretty huge but it's only about 15 km from Union to North York Centre. That shouldn't normally take an hour by car, and only speaks to how horrendous the traffic problems are in Toronto.

Going up the main north/south road with traffic lights at every block is going to take forever in any major city even with no cars on the road. No one going to NYCC by car would take Yonge street.