Surrey Updates

[Westbased]

Originally Posted by ArmoredinRed

Does anyone know what is happening in the Parking lot area of Home Depot in North Surrey? Condos?

Thanks!

Weststone Group is developing 4 rental buildings, not sure if purpose built however.

[ArmoredinRed]

Originally Posted by Westbased

Weststone Group is developing 4 rental buildings, not sure if purpose built however.

Thank you so much for the information!

I see the rendering now from the Weststone Group website. Looks like it is purpose built (from website):

METRO - Rental Homes (Surrey)
Metro, a modern and transit-oriented urban village, offers 514 purpose built luxury rental apartments and boutique retail shops steps away from the Scott Road Skytrain Station. Residents will enjoy state-of-the-art amenities including luxurious finishes and materials in suites, fitness facilities, private theaters, roof top decks, landscaped private courtyards, all professionally managed by a full service in-house team. Coming 2019

[officedweller]

From Trish Jewison twitter.

The towers around Gateway (20-ish? storeys) look quite a bit shorter than the Surrey Central ones (up to 40-ish? storeys).


https://twitter.com/TrishJewison

[officedweller]

From Francl twitter today:


Future home to 3 ice rinks, spin and yoga studios and community meeting spaces,
the North Surrey Sport & Ice Complex is well underway and set to open
late summer 2019!
https://twitter.com/francl_arch

[osirisboy]

So when this is open does that mean the facility by kg station will close? I'm assuming the city owns the current site now. Do they plan on selling it to a developer?

[Westbased]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

So when this is open does that mean the facility by kg station will close? I'm assuming the city owns the current site now. Do they plan on selling it to a developer?

The current ice rinks by Central City Skytrain will be closed once the new rinks at Scott Road are open.

SCDC is leading the charge for development of the block and released a request for qualifications (RFQ) in May 2018 which has since closed.

https://scdc.ca/bids/

The site is 6.7 Acres and includes SCDC, City of Surrey, and SFU.

They will be partnering with a established developer and planning work was scheduled to be completed Oct. 31, 2018

So we should start to see some action in regard to development applications soon.

This will be, in my opinion, the defining site of the Surrey Centre area.

The stakes are high.

[Blease]

Originally Posted by Westbased

The current ice rinks by Central City Skytrain will be closed once the new rinks at Scott Road are open.

SCDC is leading the charge for development of the block and released a request for qualifications (RFQ) in May 2018 which has since closed.

https://scdc.ca/bids/

The site is 6.7 Acres and includes SCDC, City of Surrey, and SFU.

They will be partnering with a established developer and planning work was scheduled to be completed Oct. 31, 2018

So we should start to see some action in regard to development applications soon.

This will be, in my opinion, the defining site of the Surrey Centre area.

The stakes are high.

I agree with what you’re saying but didn’t our new mayor say he would kybosh SCDC while he was campaigning.

[Westbased]

Originally Posted by Blease

I agree with what you’re saying but didn’t our new mayor say he would kybosh SCDC while he was campaigning.

Yeah not sure where he and council are in regard to that! If he follows through then not sure how the structure of this project will look like...

[Blease]

Originally Posted by Westbased

Yeah not sure where he and council are in regard to that! If he follows through then not sure how the structure of this project will look like...

I’m not holding out much hope for Mayor McCallum. His obsession with skytrain alone is disturbing, he plans to usurp the money meant for three different LRT lines and build a skytrain line to Langley. This is great news for Langley, but it sure the hell won’t do much for Surrey, expect for those few who live along the the lightly populated Fraser Hwy corridor. Why did anybody in Surrey vote for this man?

[osirisboy]

What's scdc?

And mccallum wants to end sprawl and focus on high density areas. I'm not sure why he wouldn't be in support of developing this area

And sky train makes sense. None of that lrt nonesense .

[Cypherus]

Originally Posted by Blease

I’m not holding out much hope for Mayor McCallum. His obsession with skytrain alone is disturbing, he plans to usurp the money meant for three different LRT lines and build a skytrain line to Langley. This is great news for Langley, but it sure the hell won’t do much for Surrey, expect for those few who live along the the lightly populated Fraser Hwy corridor. Why did anybody in Surrey vote for this man?

Because people disagree with you and the minority regarding the pro LRT movement. Also, you indicate the Fraser Hwy is a lightly populated corridor. So is King George all the way from 98A to 72nd. Whereas skytrain will influence towers around the nodes especially down Fraser Hwy corridor and Langley town centre, LRT will allegedly build low rise 4 story apartments along the corridors complete with unicorns, a Starbucks, and fairy-dust.

For pro LRT movers to deny the fact skytrain has shaped the region, is laughable. LRT is too late for MetroVancouver who will never adopt slow transit systems over rapid transit. RRT develops regions and interconnects cities, whereas LRT disconnects people from the region and promotes nothing more than low rise density and a few coffee shops along its streets, complete with traffic chaos, accidents, and dismemberment of jaywalkers.

[logicbomb]

Originally Posted by Blease

I’m not holding out much hope for Mayor McCallum. His obsession with skytrain alone is disturbing, he plans to usurp the money meant for three different LRT lines and build a skytrain line to Langley. This is great news for Langley, but it sure the hell won’t do much for Surrey, expect for those few who live along the the lightly populated Fraser Hwy corridor. Why did anybody in Surrey vote for this man?

Guildford is serviced well by buses. 4 express buses service the corridor (96, 501, 509, 337) and one can get to Guildford in 5-10 minutes depending on the time of day. Newton is serviced well by the 96 and the queue jumping lanes have helped alleviate choke points along the corridor.

LRT would have certainly forced Translink to truncate many bus routes at the LRT stations in Newton and Guildford - adding another transfer to their route. It was the cheaper half-assed idea to spur on tourism and increase investor confidence along the corridors. There would have been massive repercussions with regards to traffic as many vehicles would have been forced onto smaller corridors with no adequate capacity to handle the increased traffic (ie. 108th has limited duel turning lanes). This was never a public transportation plan.

[Blease]

Originally Posted by logicbomb

Guildford is serviced well by buses. 4 express buses service the corridor (96, 501, 509, 337) and one can get to Guildford in 5-10 minutes depending on the time of day. Newton is serviced well by the 96 and the queue jumping lanes have helped alleviate choke points along the corridor.

LRT would have certainly forced Translink to truncate many bus routes at the LRT stations in Newton and Guildford - adding another transfer to their route. It was the cheaper half-assed idea to spur on tourism and increase investor confidence along the corridors. There would have been massive repercussions with regards to traffic as many vehicles would have been forced onto smaller corridors with no adequate capacity to handle the increased traffic (ie. 108th has limited duel turning lanes). This was never a public transportation plan.

If express busses serve 104 Ave and King George so well, why can’t Fraser Hwy get a bus too. What’s so special about Langley that it deserves a an expensive mode of transit like skytrain, while Newton and Guildford are expected to make do with busses?

[Blease]

Originally Posted by Cypherus

Because people disagree with you and the minority regarding the pro LRT movement. Also, you indicate the Fraser Hwy is a lightly populated corridor. So is King George all the way from 98A to 72nd. Whereas skytrain will influence towers around the nodes especially down Fraser Hwy corridor and Langley town centre, LRT will allegedly build low rise 4 story apartments along the corridors complete with unicorns, a Starbucks, and fairy-dust.

For pro LRT movers to deny the fact skytrain has shaped the region, is laughable. LRT is too late for MetroVancouver who will never adopt slow transit systems over rapid transit. RRT develops regions and interconnects cities, whereas LRT disconnects people from the region and promotes nothing more than low rise density and a few coffee shops along its streets, complete with traffic chaos, accidents, and dismemberment of jaywalkers.

LRT is popular all over North America and Europe, including places like Ottawa, Calgary and Swiss cities like Geneva and Zurich, some of the most well served and most respected cities in the world.

[CoryHolmes]

Originally Posted by Blease

If express busses serve 104 Ave and King George so well, why can’t Fraser Hwy get a bus too. What’s so special about Langley that it deserves a an expensive mode of transit like skytrain, while Newton and Guildford are expected to make do with busses?

It is, though. There's a Fraser Highway B-Line bus due to come out sometime next year.

I'd rather have busses than LRT. At least busses can change routes if there's an accident, and there's guaranteed to be an accident with LRTs.

[Bombaman]

Do you guys really think Mccallum is going to achieve anything? I doubt it. he is a proven loser. All these developments in Surrey only began when Dianne Watts took over https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/bac...zNXUlvUaSlHe722i0PXO3Fs6ciY6Nqjg0gICB6xw

[Nites]

Originally Posted by Bombaman

Do you guys really think Mccallum is going to achieve anything? I doubt it. he is a proven loser. All these developments in Surrey only began when Dianne Watts took over https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/bac...zNXUlvUaSlHe722i0PXO3Fs6ciY6Nqjg0gICB6xw

Ya but did Watts ever purpose a 81 story skyscraper 300+ meters?

[CoryHolmes]

Originally Posted by Bombaman

Do you guys really think Mccallum is going to achieve anything? I doubt it. he is a proven loser. All these developments in Surrey only began when Dianne Watts took over https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/bac...zNXUlvUaSlHe722i0PXO3Fs6ciY6Nqjg0gICB6xw

I agree with that, but I hope that he'll be able to come through with this promise. Better than the entire council dominated by Surrey First.

[Blease]

Originally Posted by CoryHolmes

I agree with that, but I hope that he'll be able to come through with this promise. Better than the entire council dominated by Surrey First.

The council is now dominated with McCallum’s own flunkies.

[Equinox71]

Originally Posted by skymaster

Ya but did Watts ever purpose a 81 story skyscraper 300+ meters?

Anybody can propose anything but Doug's ideas seem random at best. He had zero knowledge about urban city planning back then and while on some occasions he says the right thing to drum up chatter, his track record of follow through and demonstration of comprehension are dubious at best. If you combine the votes for his two main competitors (Bruce Hayne and Tom Gill), they handily beat him in numbers. Doug is back on the scene not because he has any particular credibility but because infighting and egos in the Surrey First party (coupled with their complete inability to sell their curious transit ideas) split the vote and paved the way for him to resurrect himself. Ironically, it is now the ego of this nutty windbag that we have to contend with for awhile. We can totally thank Linda Heppner and co for spectacularly dropping their ball, not Doug for being smart enough to salvage things. Ahhh - politics.