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Originally Posted by someone123
You tend to present jumbles of facts that don't come together into coherent arguments, and oblique remarks about interpretations that I assume are obvious to lots of people.
Everybody with any concrete decision-making authority related to this matter knows that the stadium is going to require public subsidy to happen, whether it comes in the form of TIF or a direct payment. Back in the CWG era the discussion was about whether or not to spend $700M+ of provincial, federal, and municipal dollars on sporting infrastructure and event hosting and this was not considered an immediate "showstopper". A stadium still might or might not be worth building depending on one's perspective, because that question depends on the subjective value placed on the stadium and the expanded entertainment options it will bring to the city.
Many people on the anti-stadium side of things are pretending that this debate is 100% about tax dollars and it is not, it's also about public value. There is no easy answer and you're not going to convince people of anything by pointing out that suburban big box complexes are bigger tax dollar generators for the city.
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Facts are just so awkward.
They are so hard to understand.
They just tend to illuminate an issue and help inform citizens, or prompt them to seek further information.
Data drives sensible decision making. The information presented to council contains almost no data.
Dartmouth Crossing costs HRM almost nothing, it costs HRM very little for policing, fire and road services. It is a cash cow, a cash cow that supports the projects that make day to day living better for everyone.
I don't lay out an 5,000 word essay because I assume, perhaps wrongly, that people understand basic accounting and can read and understand financial statements. There are other significant financial pressures on HRM that media don't understand and I have yet to meet any journalist in Halifax who can read and comprehend financial statements and budgets.
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