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Old Posted Nov 2, 2018, 2:34 PM
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I disagree. I think the 12th and Flower Onni project is turning out terribly, and think that the Olympic and Hill tower will look pretty awful as well with all of that greyish spandrel glass.

5th and Hill, on the other hand, looks different (for LA anyway), and I like the dynamism of it.

Either way, I hope both of them get built. They're both on the fringes of the skyline, have considerable height, and will stretch the skyline further south and east. I think the Onni tower is more likely to be built given their portfolio, leverage, and experience in the market, but hoping 5th and Hill moves ahead as well. Until today's article, I had more or less written that one off.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2018, 4:10 PM
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Incredible tower! Copy-paste design but those extra-long protrusions are definitely eye-poppers.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2018, 4:38 PM
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Looks like LA's very own 56 Leonard!
The first set of renderings made it look like its identical twin; now it’s more like a fraternal one.

The top 45% is just too wild (just for the sake of it). I’d prefer they just keep it simple and stick with the language of the bottom 55%.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2018, 4:55 PM
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Even more Jenga like

There are so many proposals, three basically over 300+ meters by seemingly reputable developers. I hope there's a chance at least one happens.

Hopefully it's the 1,108 ft LA Grand Hotel Tower.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2018, 5:19 PM
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Incredible tower! Copy-paste design but those extra-long protrusions are definitely eye-poppers.
This is the type of tower people expect to see in a place like LA...getting this tower would be great. All of the modern homes with the infinity pools. Finally a skyscraper that push the extreme.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2018, 12:28 AM
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^^^ agreed! love it
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2018, 1:15 AM
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I disagree. I think the 12th and Flower Onni project is turning out terribly, and think that the Olympic and Hill tower will look pretty awful as well with all of that greyish spandrel glass.

5th and Hill, on the other hand, looks different (for LA anyway), and I like the dynamism of it.

Either way, I hope both of them get built. They're both on the fringes of the skyline, have considerable height, and will stretch the skyline further south and east. I think the Onni tower is more likely to be built given their portfolio, leverage, and experience in the market, but hoping 5th and Hill moves ahead as well. Until today's article, I had more or less written that one off.
True. I think Onnis 4 previous towers are horrible, the first blongs in Miami buts its infill. Its taller sibling next door just looks sooooo weird with its half crown thing. 12th and flower, thankfully, will get lost behind the fig towers as nothing more than just infill. This tower is the only one I think actually works in LA and will do greatly to push the skyline eastward. I, just hoping im alive to see the skyline stretch all the way to the river.

I know everyone is excited for 5th and Hill but I still see it as a pipe dream/architectural fantasy. The base alone makes me cringe.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2018, 3:25 AM
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Man I agree too 5th and Hill is killer!! This is beyond outstanding!!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2018, 5:52 PM
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Anyone know the height?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2018, 8:12 PM
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^ Yeah the story in Urbanize LA said 784.

Last edited by CastleScott; Nov 4, 2018 at 8:29 PM.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 6:06 AM
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If it's executed with long enough pools and balconies to really mix up the dramatic form, it'll look great. If not, it probably will just look too derivative.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 6:22 AM
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Back here on the ground, some very exciting stuff happened this past weekend.

FULL TOUR inside one of the most exclusive and coveted retailers, now open in DTLA's Arts District.

Dover Street Market Adds Downtown LA to its Coveted Global Roster

https://brighamyen.com/2018/11/04/dover-street-market-adds-downtown-la-to-its-coveted-roster/
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 8:15 AM
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It's fascinating how the Arts District has outpaced the rest of downtown in terms of citywide acceptance as a fully solidified neighborhood.

And Dover Street is sick. Used to go to the one in NY all the time. Wish it was in downtown proper, but beggars can't be choosers.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 10:27 AM
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It's fascinating how the Arts District has outpaced the rest of downtown in terms of citywide acceptance as a fully solidified neighborhood.
I was about to say this myself. It’s rise shouldn’t be a surprise in fashion since Philip Lim came into the area, but the amount of momentum happening in arts district still seemed unlikely compared to other areas of downtown that have grand old buildings just waiting to be adopted. But then again, never underestimate the allure of having space, which arts district has more of in comparison to the rest of DTLA. But arts district definitely carries the momentum in the fashion scene now, on top of it’s dominance of LA's culinary scene and art scene (even while MOCA and Broad are on Grand).


Why Dover Street Market’s New Los Angeles Store is a Game-Changer
https://www.vogue.com/article/dover-street-market-los-angeles-opening

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By now, as far as trendspotters are concerned, it’s fair to say that Los Angeles is no longer the next big thing—it is the big thing. Every couple of months or so, something seems to rachet up the city’s It factor—another tastemaker relocates from elsewhere, another institution halfway across the globe fetishizes it, another boutique opens its doors.
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Just before the opening, Dover Street and Comme des Garçons CEO Adrian Joffe wore a thick rapper-style faux-gold chain with a massive DOVER STREET MARKET LOS ANGELES pendant—the store’s cheeky staff identifier tag—as he roamed the premises. “We’ve been thinking about a second [U.S. store] since we opened in New York,” he said. “Everybody in the industry said, ‘you gotta do it in L.A.’ Of course, there’s the conversation about its resurgence—the art, the music—and the cinema, the best in the world.” But also, he explained, “it’s open to new ideas. We like that. Even back in the ’50s—Krishnamurti, Timothy Leary. It’s always been an open place.”
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Yet Hauser & Wirth’s museum-sized gallery is here; so are Phillip Lim’s new store and too many third-wave coffee roasteries to count. A pair of 57-story towers by Herzog and De Meuron—housing a hotel, thousands of luxury apartments, a K-12 school, and even more retail—will soon sprout around the corner, as will a smattering of other starchitect-branded condo and hotel developments, a Soho House, a light-rail station, and Time Warner’s new West Coast HQ. The future on-ramp to the new Sixth Street Viaduct—which will be a High Line-esque mix of parks, public art, and walking trails when it opens in 2020—is across from DSM’s parking lot (yes, crucially, the store has one).
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 3:19 PM
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^ Man, I hope that article is correct and 6 A.M. actually gets built.

(EDITOR'S NOTE: I realize the writer has no clue about the status of the project and is just reporting on what's been proposed, not what's likely to guilt built. Still, a girl can dream...)
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 7:50 PM
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Related secures $200M in bond financing for $1B Grand Avenue project

https://therealdeal.com/la/2018/10/23/re...d-financing-for-1b-grand-avenue-project/

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The City Council approved a $200 million bond measure to finance the multifamily component of the 39-story tower. The massive project, called “The Grand,” is set to rise on city-owned land at 100 S. Grand Avenue, across the street from Gehry’s famous Walt Disney Concert Hall.
The measure adds to $290 million in financing committed by Chinese real estate firm and project partner CCCG Overseas Real Estate, or CORE. A representative for the development team said Related has a secured a lead lender to close financing and that the development team looks to break ground by the end of the year.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 8:58 PM
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Great. So now all they need is to come up with the remaining, roughly, 500 million
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 10:14 PM
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 10:40 PM
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Funding secured, demo permits pulled... Its a matter of weeks, if not days that they start
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2018, 11:36 PM
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Yep. Stephen Ross is worth around 10B, plus he is well connected
     
     
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