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Old Posted Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 AM
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Oh my bad DetroitSky! I wasn't mad or anything, I was making a reference to that old Dave Chappelle skit. Sorry if I made you feel rushed.

As always, great job and thanks for the update!
Its not a problem! I didn't feel rushed. No worries!

I'm glad everyone enjoyed the update!
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2018, 4:46 AM
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Oh haha I just wanted to be sure!

I do have a quick question though, what's going on with the Levin Courthouse?
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2018, 6:23 AM
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^ This article makes it sound like they're doing some general upgrades and maintenance. This is actually the first I've looked into it. There's been work going on there for months, though.
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St Rita apartments look amazing

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I'll be back in Dec and hope to bum around checking out all the progress.
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Oh haha I just wanted to be sure!

I do have a quick question though, what's going on with the Levin Courthouse?
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The project, announced last year, includes replacement or repair of mechanical, electrical and plumbing systems; and safety, elevator and restroom improvements. The GSA said it is expected to “help prevent costly emergency repairs in the future, resulting in significant savings for American taxpayers and a safer and more efficient federal space for building tenants and visitors.”
https://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20...for-140-million-levin-courthouse-project
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Thanks for another great update, amazing again. Hope for a quick winter. Thanks for your time keeping us up with all the work on going.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2018, 10:43 PM
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I'm glad you all enjoyed it!

Boynton neighborhood rec center celebrates re-opening after millions in renovations and expansion

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The Boynton neighborhood, located at Detroit's southern border, is a wedge tucked between the cities of Melvindale and River Rouge. It's there where the city recently completed a $9.5 million renovation of that community's Kemeny Recreation Center.

Renovations include new multi-purpose rooms, sports and fitness facilities, a kitchen, parking lot, and electrical, mechanical, and roof systems. Kemeny was also treated to a major expansion with the construction of a new gymnasium, growing over 8,000 square feet in size.

Renovations began mid-2017. A renovation of adjacent Kemeny Park was completed that year.


Prince Concepts to build public park in Detroit's Core City

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Prince Concepts is building a new public park in Detroit's Core City neighborhood, northwest of downtown, which will run alongside the developer's other residential and commercial projects, the company said Thursday.

The developer, owned by Philip Kafka who jump-started Corktown Thai restaurant Takoi with Chef Brad Greenhill and Courtney Henriette, has tasked Julie Bargmann, founder of D.I.R.T. studio of Charlottesville, Va., to design the new park at 4848 Grand River Ave. in Detroit.




Not necessarily development news, but encouraging news nonetheless. The Detroit News is reporting that there were only 5 fires in the city last night.
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Crane is fully up at the one campus martius building






Awning for San Morello is up, and progress continues, new restaraunt filling up the ground floor of the Shinola Hotel facing woodward.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2018, 12:32 AM
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^ Nice! Crazy to think that there will be 3 tower cranes visible from the Shinola Hotel in the next couple years!
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That pic showing the pit and the tower crane for One Campus Martius is a thing of beauty.

I am still trying to figure out the foundation for the Hudson project, though. Bedrock already says the foundation rests 140 feet down to bedrock. I'm curious for someone who knows about construction whether they will simply be drilling more piles down to that level, or will they be drilling deeper for the new piles, or a little bit of both?

One thing I know is that these concrete pours for the basement floors are going to be epic. The whole underground of this thing is a project all by itself.
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That pic showing the pit and the tower crane for One Campus Martius is a thing of beauty.

I am still trying to figure out the foundation for the Hudson project, though. Bedrock already says the foundation rests 140 feet down to bedrock. I'm curious for someone who knows about construction whether they will simply be drilling more piles down to that level, or will they be drilling deeper for the new piles, or a little bit of both?

One thing I know is that these concrete pours for the basement floors are going to be epic. The whole underground of this thing is a project all by itself.
I like that People Mover track as well. Is / Was there ever a plan to expand the system? Have a double track and have a train running the other direction? I'd rather see that upgraded than expanding Q
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I like that People Mover track as well. Is / Was there ever a plan to expand the system? Have a double track and have a train running the other direction? I'd rather see that upgraded than expanding Q
The original idea was the the downtown loop would be where multiple lines converge from across the city, similar to how Chicago's all converge on the Loop. Much of the original project was government funded but it got more expensive and went over budget and finally the government decided it was time to invest in other things.

According to a news article from the LA Times, they almost cancelled construction midway through.

People Mover in Detroit Seen as Transit Disaster

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The People Mover is a headache that almost came to Los Angeles instead; as early as 1976, a long list of metropolitan areas, including Los Angeles, was in the running for federal funds to build showcase People Movers. Beginning with the Gerald R. Ford Administration, the federal government had high hopes of building similar systems throughout the nation if the new automated guideway technology proved successful in the demonstration projects.

Only the Detroit and Miami systems were saved by Congress from the Reagan Administration's budget ax in 1981 and 1982, and the federal funds earmarked for the Los Angeles system were eventually reallocated to those two cities. Now, both the Detroit and Miami systems are in trouble, and it seems highly unlikely that the Administration will ever finance any more such projects.
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The real key to the project was a plan to link up with a proposed light rail system that would drop suburban commuters off downtown; the commuters could then board the People Mover and ride it to stops near their offices. Local planners hoped the ease of rail commuting would once again attract businesses and professional workers downtown, after so many had deserted the city in the wake of Detroit's bloody 1967 riots.

Since then, however, Detroit has lost about a third of its population, the downtown area has lost its last big department store and many suburbanites still shun the central city. Meanwhile, federal funding for the giant light rail project never materialized, so plans for a "feeder" rail system providing riders for the People Mover have been scrapped.
By comparison, the QLine was quite successful since it was something like 60 or 70 percent privately funded but of course the issue is still that it doesn't really connect any major areas and just shuttles people within Downtown and Midtown.

The chances of expanding the People Mover is pretty low since the technology it uses is so outdated and would probably cost more to upgrade and expand versus expanding the newly built QLine. At that point, it might be better to just build a whole new subway system with proper planning.
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The original idea was the the downtown loop would be where multiple lines converge from across the city, similar to how Chicago's all converge on the Loop. Much of the original project was government funded but it got more expensive and went over budget and finally the government decided it was time to invest in other things.

According to a news article from the LA Times, they almost cancelled construction midway through.

People Mover in Detroit Seen as Transit Disaster





By comparison, the QLine was quite successful since it was something like 60 or 70 percent privately funded but of course the issue is still that it doesn't really connect any major areas and just shuttles people within Downtown and Midtown.

The chances of expanding the People Mover is pretty low since the technology it uses is so outdated and would probably cost more to upgrade and expand versus expanding the newly built QLine. At that point, it might be better to just build a whole new subway system with proper planning.
Yes, I heard the PM is a boondoggle...maybe someone out there wants a test platform for autonomous trains to go along with Ford's Corktown plans and would invest?
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2018, 9:54 PM
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The People Mover is useless. I’d much rather see them expand the streetcar or add real BRT to major roads than expand the PM. It’s outdated and much more expensive to expand than the streetcar is.
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We should have had a subway station 90 years ago but its too expensive
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2018, 6:23 AM
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We should have had a subway station 90 years ago but its too expensive
There was plans for one in the '20s and they even got as far as to drill some bores in Campus Martius. I believe it was killed by the depression.

I personally hope we can have an expansive streetcar and commuter rail system someday. We could have commuter lines to Toledo, Jackson, Flint and Port Huron and streetcar lines down every major road if our region could get it together.
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Thinking about what was killed by the Depression is depressing. Cities and the country would look a lot different today had history taken another path.
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Thinking about what was killed by the Depression is depressing. Cities and the country would look a lot different today had history taken another path.
There's nothing stopping us today, if this country decided that transit infrastructure was important the fed could certainly hand out those grants to the major cities. Unfortunately, there is no serious push for it today and the US is still deeply entrenched in automobile culture and the belief that the car is the end all be all of life.
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There's nothing stopping us today, if this country decided that transit infrastructure was important the fed could certainly hand out those grants to the major cities. Unfortunately, there is no serious push for it today and the US is still deeply entrenched in automobile culture and the belief that the car is the end all be all of life.
Did Detroit rip out all the tracks when they sold their streetcars to Mexico City. Probably a fair number of them buried under the streets.
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No. You can still see vestiges of the old tracks on Michigan Avenue in Corktown near the old Detroit Tigers Stadium site. When the Q Line was built, the old tracks were still buried there.
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