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Old Posted Oct 12, 2018, 8:11 PM
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That's mostly been in the US, where they overbuilt malls / retail.
Metrotown is a bad example. Crystal mall and other smaller malls away from transit may be better examples.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2018, 11:38 PM
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Good to see WalMart placed the grocery section on the first level, Target had groceries on the second while pharmcy was on the first.
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Metrotown is a bad example. Crystal mall and other smaller malls away from transit may be better examples.
A class super-regional malls are doing just fine, it's the B and lower class malls, particularly power centers, that are struggling.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2018, 5:43 AM
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Good to see WalMart placed the grocery section on the first level, Target had groceries on the second while pharmcy was on the first.
The Target layouts were really screwy.
i.e. only one set of changerooms - on a different floor from menswear.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2018, 5:47 AM
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the two-level target stores I've been to in the USA are the same.

The walmart should help bring some life to the mall since it stays open much later.
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2018, 3:49 AM
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Pixel is almost done at Kingsway & Gilley, looks to be a lot of strata units, will be interesting to see what goes in.

There's a huge retail demand in South Burnaby, especially for Chinese based retail/food service.
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2018, 9:08 AM
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The Target layouts were really screwy.
i.e. only one set of changerooms - on a different floor from menswear.
I can tell you that as someone who helped originally open the Target at Metrotown, that was driven by the cramped floor space of the area. Per what I was told, Metrotown had about 30% less floor space than what a typical Target would have preferred to have (this also affected the product mix; Metrotown simply had 20% less SKU's than other stores had).

This also affected backroom space; in order to maximize floor space compared to the old Zellers, when Target did the renovations to the store to turn it into a Target, they cut and shrunk the backroom area to make more room. We also had to move back stock of certain product groups to a leased warehouse that was about 15km away on the Burnaby-New West border on North Fraser Way, and we regularly had to run restock runs every 2-3 hours from the off-site warehouse via a 5-ton truck (it was more frequent during the holidays as seasonal backstock was kept offsite).

I will have to drop by and see what Walmart has done to the space; putting the grocery space on the 1st floor probably means either Walmart has massively reconfigured the backroom area to move the grocery coolers and freezers to the first floor, or accepted a sub-optimal layout like what Target was forced to accept (the coolers and freezer for the Metrotown Target was located on the second floor as that was where old Zellers had it, and it was deemed too costly to make that change to move it elsewhere).

I just hope that Walmart replaced the freight elevator and the pallet elevator that was next to it; the pallet elevator never really worked from my 2 years at the store and was just closed off, while the freight elevator was sketchy at best.
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Deciem stores reopen after founder and CEO ousted on interim basis

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Deciem stores that had been shuttered for several days reopened on Saturday, after the founder of the so-called "The Abnormal Beauty Company" was ousted by an Ontario court ruling.

The stores were closed last week by decree of then-chief executive Brandon Truaxe, who announced on Instagram that all Deciem operations would be shutting down until further notice, alluding to allegations of criminal misconduct.

On Friday, he was removed from his post on an interim basis as a result of a court application from Estée Lauder Companies Inc., which holds about a one-third stake in the business.

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Old Posted Oct 15, 2018, 1:27 AM
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Cool insights WestCoastEcho thanks for sharing!

That whole Deciem saga is quite the story, good to see ESL step in so the stores re-open and employees keep their jobs, hope the founder gets some help
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Sears (USA) has filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2018, 6:43 AM
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Sears (USA) has filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy.
Wow finally, the writing has been on the wall for ages. Still sad for the company to go out this way, it truly was a pioneer and leader in its category for years. Lots of quasi-emotional articles already out about it:

Sears, the store that changed America, declares bankruptcy

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/business/sears-bankruptcy/index.html

PS interesting that places like The Bay are still around, when a couple decades ago it was The Bay that was seen as majorly outdated and struggling, and Sears was doing OK
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Cool insights WestCoastEcho thanks for sharing!

That whole Deciem saga is quite the story, good to see ESL step in so the stores re-open and employees keep their jobs, hope the founder gets some help
It wasn't all bad at that store; we actually had good management at the store compared to other locations, and our results reflected that. Target HQ sent one of the top store managers from the US to move to Canada and lead our store, and that played a lot into it. I remember hearing pretty bad things about some of the other locations (the Surrey location was apparently the worst of the lot).

Our store was supposed to be a sort of a 'regional management training store' to train store managers for other stores, and although we were a smaller store, we got the best resources and the ear of corporate HQ to do so.

One example I seen was the sheer over-provision of our PDA's; we generally had enough for every store employee on duty for that day to have one (including people who didn't need to have a PDA, such as cashiers), plus spares, when other stores barely had enough for management and certain store staff.

We also generally could shake loose missing product from the distribution centre by asking for it or mentioning it to the regional managers when they visited.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2018, 5:12 PM
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the two-level target stores I've been to in the USA are the same.

The walmart should help bring some life to the mall since it stays open much later.
Too bad they close off the door to the mall after 9pm despite the mall being accessible beyond that time due to the movie theatre and Superstore still opening.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2018, 11:39 PM
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Too bad they close off the door to the mall after 9pm despite the mall being accessible beyond that time due to the movie theatre and Superstore still opening.
That's because after 9PM the non-Cinema/Superstore/Mcdonalds portion of the mall is blocked off, the only reason they keep mall access for the this portion is so people have access to the skytrain.

Wal-Mart is close to the station thus people aren't going to use the mall portion to access it.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2018, 3:28 AM
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Too bad they close off the door to the mall after 9pm despite the mall being accessible beyond that time due to the movie theatre and Superstore still opening.
They did open the mall entrance last weekend before mall opening hour.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2018, 5:56 AM
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They did open the mall entrance last weekend before mall opening hour.
I think they unlock the doors an hour before the mall opens. There were a few times where I had to be at the lab (across from The Bay end of the mall) early and walked through the mall while the stores were still closed.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2018, 6:13 AM
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I think they unlock the doors an hour before the mall opens. There were a few times where I had to be at the lab (across from The Bay end of the mall) early and walked through the mall while the stores were still closed.
The mall opening hour is 11am on Sunday but the store's mall entrance was already opened when I walked by at 9am. May be this only happen for weekend?
Good to see that wing of the mall getting so much more foot traffic.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2018, 3:36 AM
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Yea probably why LV is moving to WEM. LV is also opening in Chinook Centre in Calgary, It wasn't clear if they would shut down their concession in Holt Renfrew though there.
Yes, LV will exit Holt's in downtown Calgary and move into CF Chinook Centre. Burberry may end up taking the former LV at Holt's Calgary though not sure if negotiations have been finalized.

Holt's hasn't leased at Brentwood and is unlikely -- tough times for Brentwood, Mandarin Oriental Hotels came to have a peek and determined the location to not be for them (being in the burbs away from attractions/galleries/restaurants etc).

Not sure if Nordstrom would move into Richmond given CF Richmond Centre plans. Saks isn't earmarked for Oakridge (and possibly not anywhere in the Vancouver area, stay tuned). Holt's is very happy downtown (doing astronomical numbers) though as LeftCoaster pointed out, Richmond might work for them now. Nordstrom might be finished with its full-line store expansion in Canada, Simons is putting its expansion on hold for the most part, for the next while (having other priorities).
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2018, 3:44 PM
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Holt's is very happy downtown (doing astronomical numbers) though as LeftCoaster pointed out
Notwithstanding one of the worst physical layouts of a menswear section I've ever seen. Talk about being shoe-horned in! I used to buy there in their previous config but haven't bought a single item since they transformed.

I guess that goes to show that you can sell anything to certain market segments, regardless of layout.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2018, 10:48 PM
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Saks may not have resonated as well with consumers as they hoped. We'll see what their next move is.
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