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On the flip side, why should rural residents effectively have double the electoral say of someone in Barrhaven or Vanier?

Because that's what the current electoral discrepancy results in.
I thought that was the bargain that was struck when the City was amalgamated.
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I thought that was the bargain that was struck when the City was amalgamated.
It may have been a political bargain in 2000, but it is not codified anywhere. The disparity in ward populations is at the point where a Charter challenge to the map would probably succeed.
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One point about this municipal election: I'm extremely disappointed that almost no candidates are talking about:
a) redistribution
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b) preferential voting

I currently live in Gloucester South-Nepean, which stretches from barrhaven marketplace to findley creek. You'd think it would be a gimme for a candidate to go to findley creek and say they deserve their own local representation and that as councillor they'll fight for that.

On preferential voting, London is going ahead with it by council decree, and Kingston and Cambridge will hold referenda on the topic. I know there's one guy in Orleans running on this, which is great since with 17 candidates the winner in Orleans will likely have the weakest democratic mandate in the city.
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Can a City invoke the "notwithstanding clause" as well, or is it only available at the Provincial level?
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b) preferential voting
I think this might be my ballot-box question, actually, for both council and mayoral seats.
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Can a City invoke the "notwithstanding clause" as well, or is it only available at the Provincial level?
No, just "Parliament or the legislature of a province"
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One point about this municipal election: I'm extremely disappointed that almost no candidates are talking about:

b) preferential voting

On preferential voting, London is going ahead with it by council decree, and Kingston and Cambridge will hold referenda on the topic. I know there's one guy in Orleans running on this, which is great since with 17 candidates the winner in Orleans will likely have the weakest democratic mandate in the city.
Jim Watson is on record in the past as opposing preferential ballots at the municipal level, so it is not very likely while he's mayor unless there is a shift in popular opinion or a lot of public pressure.

Personally I'd be in favour of the idea though.
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Can a City invoke the "notwithstanding clause" as well, or is it only available at the Provincial level?
Cities aren't strictly speaking a level of "government" in Canada. They're corporations. That's why Councils don't make laws. They make by-laws. There are no powers given to cities in the Constitution Act. We get exactly those powers that the Province gives us, following processes the Province sets out. Changing that would require a constitutional amendment. There'll be some nuance, of course. Our constitution isn't just what's written down, but includes centuries of jurisprudence and practice. But that's the high level.
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another thing: when does Ottawa get it's own legislation similar to the city of Toronto act? We're at 1M pop now. Are any candidates pushing for this?
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another thing: when does Ottawa get it's own legislation similar to the city of Toronto act? We're at 1M pop now. Are any candidates pushing for this?
You mean the City of Ottawa Act (1999)?
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/99c14e
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Cities aren't strictly speaking a level of "government" in Canada. They're corporations.
They are governments.

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That's why Councils don't make laws. They make by-laws.
By-laws is laws. That's why they are subject to things like judicial review, including Charter challenges.
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You mean the City of Ottawa Act (1999)?
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/99c14e
We don't have nearly the same powers. The big one missing is on taxation. I'm not sure if land transfer makes sense in Ottawa yet but a gas tax to fund transit would be nice.
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Jim Watson includes nearly $1 million in promises in re-election campaign plank

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: September 16, 2018


Jim Watson made nearly $1 million in promises on Sunday during a rally at the Innovation Centre at Bayview Yards, where he delivered the economic development plank of his re-election platform.

The proposals include giving a six-figure boost to Invest Ottawa, slicing fees that restaurants pay for sidewalk patios, doling out more money to the city’s film office and making museum passes available to graduating Grade 6 students and exchange students.

How would the mayoral incumbent pay for them?

A property tax plan to be revealed in the coming weeks will provide at least part of the answer, Watson suggested.

“I’m not the candidate that’s promising to freeze taxes or cut taxes,” Watson told reporters after announcing to supporters his first promises of the campaign.

“We have costs that go up, whether it’s gasoline or labour costs or materials, and we have an obligation to pay for them. We will be bringing forward the tax rate and the tax plan to make sure that it’s predictable and affordable for the city.”

Watson won the 2010 and 2014 municipal elections on promises of 2.5 per cent and two per cent annual tax increases, respectively.

Asked if he was planning city budget cuts in his re-election bid, Watson said, “Over the course of the campaign, you will see different ideas on how we’re going to make the city more efficient.”

Also in Watson’s economic development platform is support for the idea of using professional civilian security rather than “paid-duty” police officers, who pick up extra shifts on their scheduled days off to provide security for road closures or events. Using civilians, rather than cops, could save anyone who requires security big money, and that includes the city, which often needs police to restrict traffic around construction sites.

The current city council endorsed the idea in May 2016. The former provincial Liberal government passed a law to allow security professionals do the work, but the necessary regulations haven’t been adopted yet.

The Ottawa Police Association, which endorsed the Progressive Conservatives during the provincial election campaign, has been cool to the idea of replacing paid-duty assignments with civilian security guards.

“I think it’s going to be incumbent on me and other mayors to go and put our best case forward (to the provincial PC government),” Watson said.

Restaurant owners with patios on city property would receive a break under Watson’s economic development plan. He would cut fees in half for patio encroachments, leaving the city short about $280,000 in annual revenue.

Watson also wants to give $500,000 more to Invest Ottawa to attract and retain talent for local businesses and to grow the agency’s investment and trade team. The agency already receives $4.3 million annually from city hall. He would also boost the city’s contribution to the Ottawa Film Office by $60,000.

Another $25,000 in property tax money would help buy the museum passes for students, with matching funds from municipal accommodation tax revenue, according to Watson’s plan.

However, one proposal that Watson is still sussing out is adding paved shoulders to rural roads for cyclists. Watson figures it would cost $95,000 per kilometre for the extra paving, a cost that could be negotiated into road-building contracts or handled through separate construction work.

There are 12 candidates for mayor. The municipal election is Oct. 22.

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Interview with Doucet second half of the hour. The guy has gone off the rails suggesting the City might not own the right of way under the downtown. Also mentioned Moose almost as a saviour.

https://www.1310news.com/audio/the-rick-gibbons-show/
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Jim Watson is on record in the past as opposing preferential ballots at the municipal level, so it is not very likely while he's mayor unless there is a shift in popular opinion or a lot of public pressure.
Mayor Weathervane has principles, you know, and if you don't like them, wait a few minutes for the wind to change, and he'll have other principles that you might like better.
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We don't have nearly the same powers. The big one missing is on taxation. I'm not sure if land transfer makes sense in Ottawa yet but a gas tax to fund transit would be nice.
This problem would be fixed if the Province of Toronto would stop assymetrically amending the acts which grant powers to municipalities.

Unless the power relates to something that is physically unique to one particular municipality, there should never be an amendment to permit JUST Toronto (or Ottawa or Hamilton or whoever) to have a particular taxation or other power. Grant that power to all, or to none.
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Interview with Doucet second half of the hour. The guy has gone off the rails suggesting the City might not own the right of way under the downtown. Also mentioned Moose almost as a saviour.

https://www.1310news.com/audio/the-rick-gibbons-show/
Is this the September 18th 1-hour show? I've said it before but I think Doucet and Moose are in cahoots.

I wanted someone to unseat Jim Watson, but Clive Doucet is a NIMBY opposed to development with a bad plan for our transit. I saw the "debate" and Doucet said that a sustainable city is a lowrise city... We need more development and apartments, and that involves taller buildings in our neighbourhoods.

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Is this the September 18th 1-hour show? I've said it before but I think Doucet and Moose are in cahoots.

I wanted someone to unseat Jim Watson, but Clive Doucet is a NIMBY opposed to development with a bad plan for our transit. I saw the "debate" and Doucet said that a sustainable city is a lowrise city... We need more development and apartments, and that involves taller buildings in our neighbourhoods.
Depends on his definition of low-rise. There was an article in the citizen a while back about mid-rise (think 6ish floors) as the best size for better density. However, I do agree his plans don't sound so good.
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Is this the September 18th 1-hour show? I've said it before but I think Doucet and Moose are in cahoots.

I wanted someone to unseat Jim Watson, but Clive Doucet is a NIMBY opposed to development with a bad plan for our transit. I saw the "debate" and Doucet said that a sustainable city is a lowrise city... We need more development and apartments, and that involves taller buildings in our neighbourhoods.
That's right. The 18th, second half of hour one.

I'm not a fan of Watson and his tactics (in particular the way he handled the Casino and Salvation Army files), but I believe he's the only candidate who can push Stage 2 and 3 of the O-Train and LeBreton Flats.

Doucet would delay Stage 2 of the O-Train, which will cost us hundreds of millions, will never get Stage 3 on track because he would but heads with Ford (at least Watson can stay somewhat diplomatic) and he would destroy RVL's LeBreton with his sprawling, low-rise urban vision.
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I voted in the advance poll yesterday. I was the only one there so it was fine, but the process required a 90 year old to find my name in a large binder, so I would assume more than 3 people would overwhelm the bandwidth.

If only there were some way to connect computers to a central database.
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