LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0

[dktshb]

Originally Posted by WonderlandPark2

A pair of beauty shots of DTLA from Elysian Park from Tuesday under a dramatic sky. This thread needs some photo love.

Great shots! Downtown looks so small and compact from this direction

[Steve8263]

I know it's the wrong thread but the one big takeaway from that LA Times article should be this line-

With Circa construction wrapping up, Hankey Investment and Jamison are planning to break ground next month on another big apartment project, this one in Koreatown, Dobbins said. The 23-story tower with 644 units will rise at 2900 Wilshire Blvd. across the street from Lafayette Park and should be completed by the end of 2020.

http://www.largearch.com/work/2900-wilshire-blvd

[cesar90]

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[LA21st]

That photo shows the awesome development of South Park. Almost like a whole new city.

[colemonkee]

Great shot, Cesar! From that vantage point, it actually looks like South Park is contiguous with the Financial District skyline.

And Steve8263, I agree, that is a big development, even it it's out of downtown. That's a great project.

[CaliNative]

Is there any news on the proposed supertalls "Angels Flight" and the one at 4th & Fig, or the 975 footer on south Fig? Hopefully they all get financing. Haven't seen anything on them for a couple of months. Fortunately, the 57 story, 740' Olympic Tower seems to be moving along towards construction in a year or two, as is the Grand project across from Gehry concert hall. The boom continues, at a slower pace, but it continues.

[pwright1]

[colemonkee]

Thank you, pwright! Count me as a detractor for the Onni towers at 12th and Flower. The density is great, but the cheap, window wall spandrel glass isn't fooling anyone.

[bhunsberger]

Originally Posted by colemonkee

Thank you, pwright! Count me as a detractor for the Onni towers at 12th and Flower. The density is great, but the cheap, window wall spandrel glass isn't fooling anyone.

Yes! I love that downtown is getting taller and more dense, but we have a great opportunity right now to build things that look good and will for many decades. All of the buildings being built by Onni are underwhelming and cheap looking. The mismatched colors on 820 looks like total —. My favorite new building in downtown has to be The Griffin on Spring. Looks and feels like quality. Wish we got more of that in Downtown.

[Steve8263]

Originally Posted by CaliNative

Is there any news on the proposed supertalls "Angels Flight" and the one at 4th & Fig, or the 975 footer on south Fig? Hopefully they all get financing. Haven't seen anything on them for a couple of months. Fortunately, the 57 story, 740' Olympic Tower seems to be moving along towards construction in a year or two, as is the Grand project across from Gehry concert hall. The boom continues, at a slower pace, but it continues.

Angels Flight is toast for the foreseeable future-

https://therealdeal.com/la/2018/10/08/angels-landing-will-need-full-environmental-impact-report/

As usual, CEQA doing far more harm than good.

[Wilcal]

Originally Posted by colemonkee

Thank you, pwright! Count me as a detractor for the Onni towers at 12th and Flower. The density is great, but the cheap, window wall spandrel glass isn't fooling anyone.

It would be helpful for those who are not familiar to include a photo and elaboration about your statement. Thank you.

[Wilcal]

It looks as if the owner's association is deferring maintenance on this building. Notice the whitish patches on the terra cotta tile surface. One can imagine how much more damage may be taking place due to neglect. This building is a national and local treasure. I seem to remember that the condo owners where more concerned about their precious poolside view being block by another building (remember the "Save the Clock" crapola that we were subjected to?) What happened to that? I think that these folks need to get their priorities straight.

[Illithid Dude]

Originally Posted by Steve8263

Angels Flight is toast for the foreseeable future-

https://therealdeal.com/la/2018/10/08/angels-landing-will-need-full-environmental-impact-report/

As usual, CEQA doing far more harm than good.

It's not toast, they just need to do an environmental impact report, because the project has changed substantially from what was proposed thirty years ago. We aren't getting an office tower, we are getting condos, hotels, a school, and an extra couple hundred feet. Makes sense to me.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by Wilcal

It looks as if the owner's association is deferring maintenance on this building. Notice the whitish patches on the terra cotta tile surface. One can imagine how much more damage may be taking place due to neglect. This building is a national and local treasure. I seem to remember that the condo owners where more concerned about their precious poolside view being block by another building (remember the "Save the Clock" crapola that we were subjected to?) What happened to that? I think that these folks need to get their priorities straight.

I love the Eastern Columbia building. Reminds me of the clock tower building in the Coen Bros. film "The Hudsucker Proxy". Too bad that the height limit was around when it was built---imagine a 40 or 50 story Eastern Columbia! The mix of the old (e.g. Eastern Columbia) and new (e.g.Onni 50 story) makes DTLA a real and historic downtown, mixing old and new like New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Detroit and Gotham City. Not some sterile artificiality like Dubai or Century City. Just wish the old Richfield tower was still there, oh well. When the old buildings and theaters on Broadway and Spring are renovated, L.A. will have one of the top historic downtowns in the world.

[Steve8263]

Originally Posted by Illithid Dude

It's not toast, they just need to do an environmental impact report, because the project has changed substantially from what was proposed thirty years ago. We aren't getting an office tower, we are getting condos, hotels, a school, and an extra couple hundred feet. Makes sense to me.

Respectfully, I stand by my "for the foreseeable future" remark, meaning the next year or two. This EIR will easily delay the project for a year or more. They need to get the developer to agree to pay for it, then hire someone and actually do the dirty work, have it approved, etc.

[Wilcal]

Originally Posted by Steve8263

Respectfully, I stand by my "for the foreseeable future" remark, meaning the next year or two. This EIR will easily delay the project for a year or more. They need to get the developer to agree to pay for it, then hire someone and actually do the dirty work, have it approved, etc.

Strange that the planning commission and the city council would give their full support to this project without even considering that a new EIR would be required after a much larger proposal and the passage of 30 years. What gives?

[LA/OCman]

Originally Posted by Wilcal

It looks as if the owner's association is deferring maintenance on this building. Notice the whitish patches on the terra cotta tile surface. One can imagine how much more damage may be taking place due to neglect. This building is a national and local treasure. I seem to remember that the condo owners where more concerned about their precious poolside view being block by another building (remember the "Save the Clock" crapola that we were subjected to?) What happened to that? I think that these folks need to get their priorities straight.

The Eastern Columbia HOA was successful in a lawsuit against the Eastern Columbia developer and have hired an architect and engineering firm to test the best option to restore the tile facade. There is a lot of research and testing going on by the firm to offer the best long term solutions and it should wrap up soon. Please don't spread rumors about "neglect" unless you know the facts. Just setting the record straight. The building is under the advantages of the Mills Act and will always keep the standards high. It will continue to be a city and national treasure.

[scania]

Originally Posted by LA/OCman

The Eastern Columbia HOA was successful in a lawsuit against the Eastern Columbia developer and have hired an architect and engineering firm to test the best option to restore the tile facade. There is a lot of research and testing going on by the firm to offer the best long term solutions and it should wrap up soon. Please don't spread rumors about "neglect" unless you know the facts. Just setting the record straight. The building is under the advantages of the Mills Act and will always keep the standards high. It will continue to be a city and national treasure.

Interesting...I was in the West Elm checking out the new store and heard someone who lives there talking about the same thing. Supposedly they have a couple renderings showing the improvements on how it would look, but nothing had been finalized.

[Wilcal]

Originally Posted by LA/OCman

The Eastern Columbia HOA was successful in a lawsuit against the Eastern Columbia developer and have hired an architect and engineering firm to test the best option to restore the tile facade. There is a lot of research and testing going on by the firm to offer the best long term solutions and it should wrap up soon. Please don't spread rumors about "neglect" unless you know the facts. Just setting the record straight. The building is under the advantages of the Mills Act and will always keep the standards high. It will continue to be a city and national treasure.

Unless you are an apologist or shill for the HOA (remember they are still spending money to fight the construction of a building on an adjoining parcel which at twenty some odd stories will block their cherished and entitled poolside view of the city...or was it a heartfelt effort to preserve the view of the clock? Oh damn, I forgot), I will take you for your word. I don't know anything about the Mills Act but just based upon a casual photograph and a keen eye (mine), if it comes to the preservation of architectural landmarks it doesn't seem like the HOA doesn't either. I hope that they can get it right. Oh, and I promise not to spread any rumors, promote innuendo or misunderstanding about "neglect." I say this because I don't think the people of DTLA care about what I say. They have intelligence-- they have eyes, ears, and can touch. And best of all they can read, comprehend, discern, think critically and conclude. Let them decide what constitutes neglect, and misplacement of priorities and assets. Especially when it concerns a national treasure. It should be fun.

[LA/OCman]

Originally Posted by Wilcal

Unless you are an apologist or shill for the HOA (remember they are still spending money to fight the construction of a building on an adjoining parcel which at twenty some odd stories will block their cherished and entitled poolside view of the city...or was it a heartfelt effort to preserve the view of the clock? Oh damn, I forgot), I will take you for your word. I don't know anything about the Mills Act but just based upon a casual photograph and a keen eye (mine), if it comes to the preservation of architectural landmarks it doesn't seem like the HOA doesn't either. I hope that they can get it right. Oh, and I promise not to spread any rumors, promote innuendo or misunderstanding about "neglect." I say this because I don't think the people of DTLA care about what I say. They have intelligence-- they have eyes, ears, and can touch. And best of all they can read, comprehend, discern, think critically and conclude. Let them decide what constitutes neglect, and misplacement of priorities and assets. Especially when it concerns a national treasure. It should be fun.

Here is some info regarding the Mills Act: The Mills Act Historical Property Contract Program allows owners of qualifying buildings to receive a potential property tax reduction and use the savings to help rehabilitate, restore and maintain their buildings. The Mills Act is the single most important economic incentive program in California for the restoration and preservation of historic buildings by private property owners. Enacted in 1972, the Mills Act legislation grants participating local governments (cities and counties) authority to enter into contracts with owners of qualified historic properties who actively participate in the restoration and maintenance of their properties to receive property tax relief. The City of Los Angeles adopted local Mills Act legislation in 1996. Since then, nearly 900 properties have benefited from the program.