The Ultimate Vancouver Rumour Thread!

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

There's also this election thing going on...

Which might see greater change for Burnaby projects than for those in Vancouver ... depending on the outcome, obviously.

[officedweller]

Then there's also this:

A City-Wide Plan: Gil Kelley’s amazing announcement
https://pricetags.ca/2018/09/27/a-city-w...announcement-that-almost-went-unnoticed/

Would a City-Wide Plan slow down plans for individual areas?

[s211]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

There's also this election thing going on...

I loooooooove it when bureaucrats give the election excuse for not doing any work. Anything real estate-related typically gets shut down about a year before an election. The Feds are famous for this. Makes me wonder what the workers do during this period. Catch up on their needlepoint?

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by s211

I loooooooove it when bureaucrats give the election excuse for not doing any work. Anything real estate-related typically gets shut down about a year before an election. The Feds are famous for this. Makes me wonder what the workers do during this period. Catch up on their needlepoint?

A one month "slow down" in the urgency of the start-up of a major plan during the election isn't exactly "not doing any work". They are definitely still working on it and consulting. You'd also be surprised how many files these individuals have, how understaffed they are, and how much work they do. You can still run analysis in this Corridor area during an election. You're just not going to see extra hours and man-power placed to expedite the early analytical process during an election.

While myself and our folks get frustrated with City staff and planners time to time, it's usually because they are given too many files with too few staff.

[s211]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

A one month "slow down" in the urgency of the start-up of a major plan during the election isn't exactly "not doing any work". They are definitely still working on it and consulting. You'd also be surprised how many files these individuals have, how understaffed they are, and how much work they do. You can still run analysis in this Corridor area during an election. You're just not going to see extra hours and man-power placed to expedite the early analytical process during an election.

While myself and our folks get frustrated with City staff and planners time to time, it's usually because they are given too many files with too few staff.

I can speak from experience that the Feds shut things down upwards of 9-12 months before an election because they won't be able to get any approvals through the system. The system shuts down for fear of wholesale changes post-election, and elected persons/parties don't want their name tied to anything that could be a potential issue wrecking their chances of re-election. The Province isn't much better.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by s211

I can speak from experience that the Feds shut things down upwards of 9-12 months before an election because they won't be able to get any approvals through the system. The system shuts down for fear of wholesale changes post-election, and elected persons/parties don't want their name tied to anything that could be a potential issue wrecking their chances of re-election. The Province isn't much better.

The "system" is not shut down. Planning is continuing their work. Working hours are redirected. Some things are on pause since mid-September, but those that would have been working on those items that are paused are working on other files/items. The Broadway Corridor Plan is not "halted" due to the election, and those that were, are working on it are not doing "nothing".


I can speak from experience from working with the City, currently.

[s211]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

The "system" is not shut down. Planning is continuing their work. Working hours are redirected. Some things are on pause since mid-September, but those that would have been working on those items that are paused are working on other files/items. The Broadway Corridor Plan is not "halted" due to the election, and those that were, are working on it are not doing "nothing".


I can speak from experience from working with the City, currently.

Better than the Feds then, I guess. I have literally, not a word of a lie, walked into a fed department I was consulting for to see the whole office engaged in poker games. Not a single person was working.

[misher]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

The "system" is not shut down. Planning is continuing their work. Working hours are redirected. Some things are on pause since mid-September, but those that would have been working on those items that are paused are working on other files/items. The Broadway Corridor Plan is not "halted" due to the election, and those that were, are working on it are not doing "nothing".


I can speak from experience from working with the City, currently.

Good to hear, this was their reply to my inquiry:

Hi Drake, Thank you for your email regarding the phasing of the Broadway Plan process.



On June 20, 2018 City Council approved the following:



A terms of reference for a two-year planning program PDF file (1.25 MB)
An interim rezoning policy while the planning program is underway PDF file (13 KB)
A development contribution expectation policy to curb land speculation PDF file (150 KB)


Since this time, we have been in the process of setting up a staff team, undertaking background research and preparing for the two year planning program. We hope to complete this background work and launch the planning process early in 2019.



As we get closer to the launch date, we’ll be sending invitations to our events. For the latest news and updates, please sign up to the mailing list on our website: [vancouver.ca/broadwayplan]vancouver.ca/broadwayplan



Hope this helps,

The Broadway Planning Team.

[GenWhy?]

Precisely what you would have found on the City's website as well. That is exactly what they are engaged in at this moment and while it's a long process, one must always be patient with planning. These are never "done tomorrow" initiatives or thought processes/decisions.

The City is also undergoing a major Staff change. We're being re-assigned minor and major staff. The MIRHPP senior planner was changed as well as a new urban design planner was finally choosen. No more Anita.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by logan5

Well how about a rumour then? What about this unannounced Burnaby tower that Leftcoaster mentioned that would be the tallest in MetroVancouver. You must know something about that.

I do! But I can't say anything. Still very much up in the air as well. Could end up being very tall though.

Never said it would be in Burnaby though...

[Klazu]

Now you're just adding fuel to the fire. I love it!

[jlousa]

I'll add a rumour, still in the design stage but we could see a 70-80 storey tower or two at Lougheed Centre but not part of Shapes development...
Not sure if this is the same one LeftCoaster has hinted at.

[Klazu]

You guys just love playing with our feelings. This is why I love this thread. The less one hints, the better.

[scryer]

A 70 or 80 storey building will be astonishing to see. And even better that it gives a good ol' middle-finger to Vancouver's backwards view-cone policies.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by scryer

A 70 or 80 storey building will be astonishing to see. And even better that it gives a good ol' middle-finger to Vancouver's backwards view-cone policies.

Note he said a tower or two... so that would be a peace sign or something else.

[jlousa]

lol pretty Vancouver couldn't care less, they are busy designing their urban realm that the suburbs have forgotten about. I'd take tower free Burnaby Heights any day of the week before Brentwood/Metrowtown or Lougheed. It's a shame Burnaby is not taking advantage of these investments to mandate a superior street interface.

[osirisboy]

They aren't mutually exclusive. You can have a really good street interface AND tall towers

[Denscity]

Did the 300 metre wooden tower in Stanley Park make it on here yet?

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by Denscity

Did the 300 metre wooden tower in Stanley Park make it on here yet?

Is that a "rumour"? It's already out in the public from the guy proposing it

[Mininari]

Bring back the Fringe Tower!
I'd rather see that than a 300M anything in Stanley Park.