General Vancouver Updates - Page 366

whatnext · #**7301** Posted **Sep 16, 2018, 5:14 PM**

This whole 'duplexes will fix affordability" is stupid. Why don't they just encourage the splitting of suburban sized lots in south Vancouver into smaller SFH lots? You'll just end up with wealthy people buying a duplex to live in one side and rent out the other.

Firebrand · #**7302** Posted **Sep 16, 2018, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

This whole 'duplexes will fix affordability" is stupid. Why don't they just encourage the splitting of suburban sized lots in south Vancouver into smaller SFH lots? You'll just end up with wealthy people buying a duplex to live in one side and rent out the other.

Most of these people living in these lots want to have a typical American oversized McMansion with 1/3rd of their front yard covered in pavement, half-acreage backyards, and a garage that could fit two full-sized SUVs. I don't see them even wanting to have a SFH smaller than 1,200 sq ft, and they'll do anything they can to keep the status quo. That's my reasoning.

NewfBC · #**7303** Posted **Sep 17, 2018, 2:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Firebrand

Most of these people living in these lots want to have a typical American oversized McMansion with 1/3rd of their front yard covered in pavement, half-acreage backyards, and a garage that could fit two full-sized SUVs. I don't see them even wanting to have a SFH smaller than 1,200 sq ft, and they'll do anything they can to keep the status quo. That's my reasoning.

And then, they still want to park their vehicle(s) on the street!

Ron.

misher · #**7304** Posted **Sep 17, 2018, 3:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by NewfBC

And then, they still want to park their vehicle(s) on the street!

Ron.

There’s huge faction that doesn’t want to density Vancouver or change most neighborhoods from houses to condos. Duplex’s are a compromise between doubling housing and keeping the house look. And it makes it look like the government is creating housing. Funnily you can’t duplex and have a laneway house (which another initiative is making much easier) causing there to be two competing initiatives.

Personally I think basement suites/laneway houses do a much better job that duplex’s as there is one owner in charge instead of two fighting ones and can’t imagine how many fights there willl be between both duplex’s owners but others may disagree.

officedweller · #**7305** Posted **Sep 17, 2018, 7:26 PM**

Drove down Prior St. over the weekend and noticed that a big warehouse at Venables and Raynur has been demolished.

Formerly General Paint.

Anyone know what's planned?

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Raymur+...cac5b3615!8m2!3d49.2768299!4d-123.082613

Ah, found this:

Over 40 jobs lost as 106-year-old East Vancouver paint factory closes
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/general-paint-factory-closes-in-vancouver-1.4050848

WarrenC12 · #**7306** Posted **Sep 17, 2018, 7:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Drove down Prior St. over the weekend and noticed that a big warehouse at Venables and Raynur has been demolished.

Formerly General Paint.

Anyone know what's planned?

Yes it's been gone since the late spring. I still haven't seen any other signs there for what's next. Really odd.. contamination issues with the paint history there?

Feathered Friend · #**7307** Posted **Sep 17, 2018, 8:36 PM**

https://council.vancouver.ca/20180724/documents/p9.pdf

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/duplex-use-in-rs-zones-proposed-zoning-ammendments.pdf

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/kits-kcc-fact-sheet-082018.pdf

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September 18th Public Hearing – Plans for a Filibuster – Gentle Housing Increases meet Well Organised Opposition – Can Vancouver’s West End Handle New York Style?

In the Fall of 2016, as the realization of just how bad the housing crisis was sunk into the minds of a city council in the middle of its term, a reset of the city’s housing strategy was declared. Now almost two years later, consultations with stakeholder groups and members of the public have finally led to a small first step forward.

The final two agenda items are proposed under the resulting Make Room policy. These simple changes will allow for duplexes in the RS zones (single family home), which make up most of the land in Vancouver. There is also an amendment for RT zones (two family home) of Kitsilano and Kensington-Cedar Cottage which would bring them in line with other similar zones. While the former has seen broad support across the city, we expect both item to generate a high turn out from a passionate opposition.

Also on the agenda is an update to the East Fraser Lands development policy that seeks to respond to some growing community’s concerns. There is one rezoning item which seeks to bring a New York style of architecture to Vancouver. While there are two heritage items on the agenda, including the heritage designation of former Downtown Post Office, they are extremely unlikely to generate any conversation, so we’ve chosen not to discuss them.

Backlash Expectations
East Fraser Lands (EFL) ODP 10-year Review – Very Low –
The amendments respond to community concerns

1444 Alberni Street & 740 Nicola Street – Low –
Worries over traffic and the style of design

Amendments to… Most RS Zones to Allow Two-Family Dwellings (Duplexes) – High –
Moderation opposition throughout Vancouver, yet a high amount in Kitsilano

Amendments to… RT-7 and RT-8 Zones (Kitsilano) and RT-10 and RT-10N Zones (Kensington-Cedar Cottage) – Very High-
Once again, many in Kitsilano are extremely resistant to these small changes

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/09/17...ncouvers-west-end-handle-new-york-style/

officedweller · #**7308** Posted **Sep 17, 2018, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Yes it's been gone since the late spring. I still haven't seen any other signs there for what's next. Really odd.. contamination issues with the paint history there?

Don't think the concrete pads had been excavated /removed though.
Just the superstructures.

red-paladin · #**7309** Posted **Sep 18, 2018, 3:13 AM**

Did we ever talk about this project?
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/1857-east-11th-avenue-2685-victoria-drive-vancouver

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138 homes approved for site near Commercial-Broadway Station

officedweller · #**7310** Posted **Sep 18, 2018, 8:29 PM**

I think so, but I don't recall there being a heritage house preserved next to it.

Feathered Friend · #**7311** Posted **Sep 19, 2018, 1:50 AM**

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Last Modular Housing Project Saves Chinatown & Strathcona Green Space – Funds for More Homes Run Dry as Winter Approaches

Union St at Gore Ave (898 Main St)
On my way to this event by Oppenheimer Park, I made a point of stopping by to take another look at the location that will host these homes. The first thing I noticed was that more people seemed to have made this park their home, as it appeared several new tents had popped up. The second thing I noticed is that there were less tents everywhere else. It seems that the people I saw last time, living in the grassy areas of the MacLean Park Housing complex, and even under the viaducts themselves, had just moved a street or two over. Obviously, I had no intention of invading these people’s privacy, so I didn’t take any photos to support my experience.

When I arrived at the event, I was struck by just how much these homes have been embraced by residents of Vancouver. It seems that as people have learned more about these homes, their fears and anger have faded away, as there were clearly more staff in attendance than members of the public. This feeling was validated when I learned that the new Margaret Mitchell building near the Olympic Village has received care packages from the surrounding neighbourhood, and enough small potted plants to place one in every home.

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/09/18...more-homes-run-dry-as-winter-approaches/

Feathered Friend · #**7312** Posted **Sep 20, 2018, 5:33 AM**

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BREAKING: #VanCityCouncil approves legalization of duplexes in 99% of all single family neighbourhoods in Vancouver. This is a big boost to “missing middle” homes & will help provide more of the right supply of housing for people who live + work in our city #vanpoli

https://twitter.com/VanMayorsOffice/status/1042610128518701056

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Approx 67,000 single family lots – 57% of City’s land mass – are now eligible for duplexes. That means more housing options in neighbourhoods across our city, including Dunbar, Kerrisdale, & West Point Grey #vanpoli

https://twitter.com/VanMayorsOffice/status/1042610927600717824

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#VanCityCouncil has referred item 6 - Rezoning: Amendments to the Zoning and Development By-law for RT-7 and RT-8 Zones (Kitsilano) and RT-10 and RT-10N Zones (Kensington-Cedar Cottage), to a future Public Hearing to take place sometime after November 5, 2018.

https://twitter.com/VanCityClerk/status/1042565905014829062

logan5 · #**7313** Posted **Sep 20, 2018, 6:01 AM**

I hope (and I think it will) trigger zoning changes for the rest of Metro Vancouver, where SFH lots are much larger.

A typical lot in Vancouver is 120x33, so that means that a duplex unit would be just under 1400 sq feet. Not really enough square footage for a secondary suite. I see it as a move sideways, but a step in the right direction.

logan5 · #**7314** Posted **Sep 20, 2018, 6:20 AM**

i suppose you could have a 462 sq ft basement suite, with the primary residence at 924 sq ft. That's a small 3 bedroom or decent sized 2 bedroom, while the secondary suite would be a "junior 1 bedroom". So for a Vancouver Special in South Van that typically has 2 suites, could turn into 4 residences. I would like to see FSR 1 or above though.

Tetsuo · #**7315** Posted **Sep 20, 2018, 6:25 AM**

Would like to see more rowhomes and townhomes !

Agreed Logan re:Other municipalities

WarrenC12 · #**7316** Posted **Sep 20, 2018, 3:20 PM**

898 Main Street is interesting. That seems to be the only modular project that is literally on greenspace. It's not much of a park, but it's something.

officedweller · #**7317** Posted **Sep 20, 2018, 9:14 PM**

It's really only temporary greenspace until the viaducts come down:

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/northeast-false-creek-plan.pdf

dleung · #**7318** Posted **Sep 21, 2018, 12:44 AM**

FYI google earth updated Vancouver in 3d to circa fall 2017. Vancouver House, Telus Garden, Parc, One Pacific, The Exchange, Trump, MNP, and various nameless abominations around Yaletown south have been added.

officedweller · #**7319** Posted **Sep 21, 2018, 8:16 AM**

From Billard Architecture - looks to be on SW/SE Marine Drive:

Our #vancouver 1/3 #rental 2/3 condo project with shared amenities, elevators etc. is almost ready for preliminary submission.https://twitter.com/BillardArch

https://twitter.com/BillardArch

LeftCoaster · #**7320** Posted **Sep 21, 2018, 11:55 PM**

Looks sharp. Can't tell how far it is from the station but the density looks ok for a few blocks away.