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Old Posted Sep 11, 2018, 10:11 PM
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Frustrating that we don't have access to the FEDCO presentation because Egli isn't allowed to post it on his website during the election period.

I don't see any reason why the City can't post it on their website.

Yes they have the presentation on Youtube, but there is no image, and it seems the beginning is cut.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2018, 12:02 AM
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Pushing LRT to 2019 introduces a new challenge: opening in the middle of an Ottawa winter

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: September 11, 2018


OC Transpo faces the possibility of launching a new multibillion-dollar transit technology in the dead of an Ottawa winter, now that the city is pushing the launch of the $2.1-billion LRT line to sometime between January and March 2019.

Coun. Stephen Blais, chair of the transit commission, knows it’s not the best time to open the Confederation Line.

“This is a big change for customers. A lot of people today get one bus and take it directly downtown,” Blais said on Tuesday. “Some of the bus route changes have made walking distances a little bit longer than they were in the past, and so I think we should put some thought into that, understanding that winters in Ottawa can be particularly tough. February is normally the worst of it and so I think it bears some more thought.”

The city announced on Monday that the 12.5-kilometre LRT line won’t be open in November, as planned. The Rideau Transit Group has told the city it can deliver the project on Nov. 30, rather than Nov. 2. Considering the rigorous testing and commissioning program that follows the handover, the city doesn’t think it could launch LRT until 2019. A new opening date hasn’t been set.

On the positive side, the city will be able to test the LRT system in winter conditions before opening it to the public.

However, a winter launch introduces the threat of wildly unpredictable weather. Snowy, bone-chilling conditions could impact buses trying to bring riders to LRT stations, which will have heated waiting areas. In the afternoon peak period, long-haul transit riders will need to wait for buses after leaving LRT stations at Tunney’s Pasture and Blair.

Operations on Day 1 will shape public opinion of LRT and the new transit network.

It’s not as easy as simply delaying the launch until there are warmer temperatures, Blais said. There could be contractual obligations tied to the launch date and there could be budget consequences to holding off on running the rail service, he said.

“If the train is ready and we’re paying for it, it’s hard financially to justify not using it because then we’re paying for two systems at the same time,” Blais said.

“That’s part of what I’m sure will be the ongoing discussion over the next days and weeks internally here at city hall, and also with the Rideau Transit Group, on how to best manage that, but also not to set false expectations. I really hope Rideau Transit Group comes back with a date they can prove that they can hit. So far, they have not, in my view, been overly transparent or forthright with their ability to meet the targets that they’ve established.”

Blais said he still doesn’t get how council could receive a memo on Aug. 13 suggesting RTG was on track for a Nov. 2 handover, only to have the information refuted days later.

“I don’t understand how Rideau Transit Group can consistently be so wrong,” Blais said. “These were supposed to be experts. They’re supposed to have decades, if not centuries, worth of experience combined, and yet they’re consistently proven wrong, and they’re not transparent about their inability to deliver. They’re giving us information that, when we have outside people look at it, is just blatantly untrue.”

This news organization has tried to reach RTG’s media liaison for comment from the company on the latest construction delay. There has been no reply.

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Pushing LRT to 2019 introduces a new challenge: opening in the middle of an Ottawa winter

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: September 11, 2018


OC Transpo faces the possibility of launching a new multibillion-dollar transit technology in the dead of an Ottawa winter, now that the city is pushing the launch of the $2.1-billion LRT line to sometime between January and March 2019.

Coun. Stephen Blais, chair of the transit commission, knows it’s not the best time to open the Confederation Line.

“This is a big change for customers. A lot of people today get one bus and take it directly downtown,” Blais said on Tuesday. “Some of the bus route changes have made walking distances a little bit longer than they were in the past, and so I think we should put some thought into that, understanding that winters in Ottawa can be particularly tough. February is normally the worst of it and so I think it bears some more thought.”

The city announced on Monday that the 12.5-kilometre LRT line won’t be open in November, as planned. The Rideau Transit Group has told the city it can deliver the project on Nov. 30, rather than Nov. 2. Considering the rigorous testing and commissioning program that follows the handover, the city doesn’t think it could launch LRT until 2019. A new opening date hasn’t been set.

On the positive side, the city will be able to test the LRT system in winter conditions before opening it to the public.

However, a winter launch introduces the threat of wildly unpredictable weather. Snowy, bone-chilling conditions could impact buses trying to bring riders to LRT stations, which will have heated waiting areas. In the afternoon peak period, long-haul transit riders will need to wait for buses after leaving LRT stations at Tunney’s Pasture and Blair.

Operations on Day 1 will shape public opinion of LRT and the new transit network.

It’s not as easy as simply delaying the launch until there are warmer temperatures, Blais said. There could be contractual obligations tied to the launch date and there could be budget consequences to holding off on running the rail service, he said.

“If the train is ready and we’re paying for it, it’s hard financially to justify not using it because then we’re paying for two systems at the same time,” Blais said.

“That’s part of what I’m sure will be the ongoing discussion over the next days and weeks internally here at city hall, and also with the Rideau Transit Group, on how to best manage that, but also not to set false expectations. I really hope Rideau Transit Group comes back with a date they can prove that they can hit. So far, they have not, in my view, been overly transparent or forthright with their ability to meet the targets that they’ve established.”

Blais said he still doesn’t get how council could receive a memo on Aug. 13 suggesting RTG was on track for a Nov. 2 handover, only to have the information refuted days later.

“I don’t understand how Rideau Transit Group can consistently be so wrong,” Blais said. “These were supposed to be experts. They’re supposed to have decades, if not centuries, worth of experience combined, and yet they’re consistently proven wrong, and they’re not transparent about their inability to deliver. They’re giving us information that, when we have outside people look at it, is just blatantly untrue.”

This news organization has tried to reach RTG’s media liaison for comment from the company on the latest construction delay. There has been no reply.

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I cant believe the city of Ottawa is even talking about a winter opening. Mark my words phase one construction will not finish before phase 2 construction
begins which means i expect it to open 1 year from now. The stupid thing in all this is I remember reading back in either 2012 or 2013 that RTG had originally told the city of Ottawa they would finish in 2019 but the city pushed them to set the date for May of 2018 instead for political reasons and too me this is the real reason why its taking so long. The sinkhole was just an excuse and not a valid one for a project taking this long. I fully blame the municipal politicians and staff not RTG for the whole mess.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2018, 1:26 AM
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No way we should wait one more minute than needed to get the LRT into service, winter or no winter.
     
     
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No way we should wait one more minute than needed to get the LRT into service, winter or no winter.
Thats why i have been saying all along there should have been a partial opening whether finished or not. Telling the people that they would be done by 2018 was a stupid thing to do but thats what politicians do best is to do stupid things.
     
     
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I cant believe the city of Ottawa is even talking about a winter opening. Mark my words phase one construction will not finish before phase 2 construction
begins which means i expect it to open 1 year from now. The stupid thing in all this is I remember reading back in either 2012 or 2013 that RTG had originally told the city of Ottawa they would finish in 2019 but the city pushed them to set the date for May of 2018 instead for political reasons and too me this is the real reason why its taking so long. The sinkhole was just an excuse and not a valid one for a project taking this long. I fully blame the municipal politicians and staff not RTG for the whole mess.
Unless you have a source for that (which I don't think you do), stop pulling BS out of nowhere.

The "accelerated" 2018 deadline was set before the RFP was even put out.
http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/SAPO_Presentation.pdf
http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/July14Presentation_EN.pdf#page=345

If RTG bid on a contract to complete the project by 2018 knowing they couldn't get it done before 2019, then I don't really see how that's council's fault.
     
     
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Unless you have a source for that (which I don't think you do), stop pulling BS out of nowhere.

The "accelerated" 2018 deadline was set before the RFP was even put out.
http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/SAPO_Presentation.pdf
http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/July14Presentation_EN.pdf#page=345

If RTG bid on a contract to complete the project by 2018 knowing they couldn't get it done before 2019, then I don't really see how that's council's fault.

It is council's fault when any realistic person knows they was no way RTG could get it done by 2018. Ive said it more than once. It would be foolish to think they could get it done in 2018 when the project is as big as it is especially when they had to dig a tunnel that wasn't there before along with 3 underground stations.

Ill have to find the source since i have long forgotten where i read it it is even there anymore but i do know i saw it and RTG said 2019 originally to
Ottawa city council before they pushed the date up to may 2018.

Ok after reading that link maybe that's what I read but my point about the city is still at fault still stands.
     
     
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Nonsense. They could absolutely have gotten it done. Comes down to how much resources they were willing to spend. As it stands they're close to done on most of the staions and all the vehicles will probably be done by January.
     
     
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To think we have a 30year maintenance contract with RTG.
     
     
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Nonsense. They could absolutely have gotten it done. Comes down to how much resources they were willing to spend. As it stands they're close to done on most of the staions and all the vehicles will probably be done by January.
Are you sure about that? Canada has a bad record when it comes to major project being done on time without being costly and based on my brief experience in the construction industry there was no way a project this big could finish in 2018.
     
     
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Are you sure about that? Canada has a bad record when it comes to major project being done on time without being costly and based on my brief experience in the construction industry there was no way a project this big could finish in 2018.
The companies that form the RTG were shown to have a pretty good track record before this. One of the documents listed several projects that they had completed on time and on budget, as well as the Canada Line which was completed 110 days ahead of schedule.
     
     
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Are you sure about that? Canada has a bad record when it comes to major project being done on time without being costly and based on my brief experience in the construction industry there was no way a project this big could finish in 2018.
Hard to tell. The downtown tunnel and stations were mostly done in 2017. The Eastern part of the line has beeen mostly done for at least a year and a half. I think th city's insistence on receiving everything at once is problematic (and not how most infrastructure projects work). I think the real problem is the city had points for mining out stations, which which led to a big risk under Rideau Street given the soil conditions, a risk which ultimately did not pay off.
     
     
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The companies that form the RTG were shown to have a pretty good track record before this. One of the documents listed several projects that they had completed on time and on budget, as well as the Canada Line which was completed 110 days ahead of schedule.
Even people with good track records can run into unexpected problems. I think most people were way too optimistic and thats on the city for giving everyone's hopes up especially as acottowa mentions in his next post that the city had points for mining out stations.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2018, 11:42 AM
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Ottawa LRT construction received numerous fails from city building inspectors, documents reveal

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: September 12, 2018


Parts of Ottawa’s $2.1-billion LRT project failed inspections by city building inspectors, who walked away unsatisfied by some of the work they saw at construction sites.

Many of the failed inspections between Jan. 1, 2015, and Sept. 20, 2017, were related to plumbing and fire safety, according to more than 400 reports reviewed by this newspaper through an access-to-information request.

Inspectors reviewed various parts of the construction, such as mechanical, plumbing, foundation and fire safety, and wrote an assessment for each inspected element.

The large majority of the inspections were listed as progress inspections or inspections that resulted in passing grades.

However, there were 63 times when an inspector recorded a “fail” and called for a re-inspection of a constructed element.

Interested in the quality of construction on the Confederation Line, this newspaper initially filed the request for information on Sept. 20, 2017; about 10 months later, the city signed off on the release of the inspection reports. The reports provide a glimpse into the quality of work on the city’s largest-ever infrastructure project, to which all three levels of government have contributed significant public funds.

The city announced this week another delay in the completion of the LRT project. It’s not expected to be ready for customers until the first quarter of 2019, instead of the promised November 2018 launch.

Rideau Transit Group, the consortium building the Confederation Line, has an internal quality-control system designed to catch any faults in construction. When there is a mistake, it’s recorded in a “non-conformance report,” the fix is made, or the issue is accepted if there isn’t a major problem, and the file is reviewed by the city. Non-conformance reports are standard in the construction industry and the LRT project has produced many, such as those related to concrete.

However, the city itself has its own inspection requirements under the Ontario Building Code. A team of inspectors working for the city is tasked with making sure elements of the LRT system, like all other construction projects in Ottawa, are built to standards under provincial law.

John Buck, the city’s manager of building inspection and enforcement, estimated that his staff have completed between 1,100 and 1,200 inspections of the LRT system. The reports viewed by this newspaper reveal only a snapshot of that work. Four out of the city’s roughly 50 to 55 field inspectors are dedicated to the LRT project. Under the building code, the inspectors are required to complete an inspection within 48 hours of a request by a contractor, but the city strives to respond sooner, Buck said.

It can consume precious time when inspectors have to return to any job site to re-check pieces of construction that generated failed inspections.

“Can it be frustrating? Absolutely,” Buck said, but he added that it’s just part of the building process.

“It’s our jobs to look critically and raise these deficiencies.”

The reports illustrate the problems inspectors have found at LRT worksites.

An inspector recorded a fail in April 2017 after reviewing plumbing in the downtown tunnel and learning that about 60 vertical sanitary and stormwater pipe locations had blockages.

When an inspector reviewed the roughed-in plumbing work at the uOttawa station in August 2016, he also recorded a fail, noting that several tasks still needed to be completed before the concrete pour, such as ensuring the pipes had the right slope and pressure.

An inspection of plumbing around Lyon station in the first half of 2017 reported damage to the weeping tile from concrete and reinforcing steel. Inspections related to the same building permit flagged the need to prevent sand and grit from entering the plumbing system and the need for a control valve on the station.

At Blair station in May 2016, an inspector recorded a failed inspection after reviewing the piping in a mechanical room.

Inspectors are also tasked with reviewing fire protection measures.

There was a failed inspection at Rideau station in October 2017 because the construction of walls around an escalator weren’t being built to have fire separation, which prevents the spread of fire.

In September 2017, an inspector recorded a fail because a sprinkler line wasn’t installed properly at Hurdman station.

During another inspection in December 2015, an inspector wasn’t able to verify that the fire-detection system worked at St. Laurent station.

An inspection of the fire-stopping and fire-separation infrastructure also failed in June 2015 at the maintenance and storage facility.

An inspector filed a failed inspection at the train storage facility on Belfast Road in March 2016 after noticing problems with the fire-suppression system and a lack of documentation.

There were also failed inspections when it came to excavations.

After an inspection at the uOttawa station in February 2017, an inspector recorded a fail after learning an excavation and foundation were completed without a city inspection, requiring the builder to produce several reports on the work. A similar failed inspection happened in January 2017 at St. Laurent station, with the inspector asking for documents after the contractor had already finished the excavation and foundation.

Inspectors have also run into challenges trying to do their jobs.

One inspector noted in a November 2015 report that he wasn’t allowed to take a picture of a catwalk in the maintenance and storage building “due to security reason.”

(Alstom, the LRT vehicle provider, has previously restricted access to the facility to prevent the disclosure of its vehicle-building techniques).

Failed inspections are sometimes logged for reasons not necessarily related to the infrastructure itself.

A report in September 2017 says a site meeting was requested by the contractor at the storage facility on Belfast Road but that no one was available at the site. The contractor didn’t answer his phone.

RTG community liaison officer Conrad McCallum sent an emailed response to questions on behalf of the company. RTG was asked for an explanation for inspections that fail and whether the company has been requesting inspections too early in the construction process.

“RTG has requested interim inspections during the course of construction to provide documentation and access for visual inspection to prove conformance to (Ontario Building Code) requirements,” the company says.

“This is an example of best practices in regards to open and transparent communication with our city building department. RTG and (the building code services branch) have been working collectively to conduct timely inspections during the course of the project as a project delivery method to achieve occupancy.”

Building inspectors have been “very accommodating” in working with RTG during the LRT construction, the company says.

“The (LRT) project has multiple phases and activities that require building code consultation and approval,” RTG says. “The city’s building code inspectors have been proactive in this exercise and RTG will continue to work conjointly with the building code services branch through the inspection process in the final phase of the project.”

Properly building transit infrastructure is in RTG’s interests since the company’s maintenance arm is contracted to maintain the rail system, including the Stage 2 Confederation Line expansion, until 2048.

Alan Shaw, the chief building official in Sarnia and the immediate past president of the Ontario Building Officials Association, said finding deficiencies in construction is very common, which means failed inspections aren’t unusual.

“The primary reason a building inspector would fail a project is because they don’t want you to proceed with other things before you get this right,” Shaw said, adding that “to fail an inspection is not the end of the world.”

If there were perfectly built projects all the time, there wouldn’t be a need for building code inspectors, Shaw said.

“We’re there to catch the stuff that other people miss,” he said.

In Ottawa, Buck said the city’s team of building inspectors is short-staffed by about 10 to 15 per cent. The city is trying to recruit new inspectors in a competitive market. Later this month, council is scheduled to consider a proposal to spend $1 million to hire 12 more staff in the building code services branch.

The branch’s workload will only grow as the city embarks on the Stage 2 expansion in 2019.

“It has taxed our resources somewhat,” Buck said of Stage 1. “We’ve also spent many years on office work even before construction got underway on the permitting side.”

The team of four inspectors are committed to making sure the LRT system is constructed according to the law, Buck said.

“They’re invested and they’re proud of their work,” Buck said. “They feel its very critical to the city and the project.”

— with files from Drake Fenton

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This is a joke - one month to opening and bam - thank you mam. Obviously a bunch of genius project and contract managers managing this project - overpaid bureaucrats and consultants with no repercussions - they'll get bonuses, promotions and pats on the back - will the contract penalty be exercised and on such a large contract such a small penalty - sheer incompetence.
     
     
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Nonsense. They could absolutely have gotten it done. Comes down to how much resources they were willing to spend. As it stands they're close to done on most of the staions and all the vehicles will probably be done by January.
It would inspire more confidence if they could actually complete a station. All the Eastern stations are 99.9% done, yet are missing details like entrance signage, the lollipop entrance post, the graphic overlay on the lanterns, and glass and composite panels here and there

This close to the supposed handover at least some stations should be done, not "done" with air quotes

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Ottawa LRT construction received numerous fails from city building inspectors, documents reveal

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Updated: September 12, 2018
That article is an example of how the media likes to sensationalize things. Most of the deficiencies seem pretty normal to me. I would be more concerned if there were not deficiencies as that could indicate a payoff.

The only ones of concern to me are the lack of access at times and a concrete pour happening before the inspection is done. Having said that, we don't really know the full picture in those cases.

Willing does redeem himself at the end by saying:

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Alan Shaw, the chief building official in Sarnia and the immediate past president of the Ontario Building Officials Association, said finding deficiencies in construction is very common, which means failed inspections aren’t unusual.

“The primary reason a building inspector would fail a project is because they don’t want you to proceed with other things before you get this right,” Shaw said, adding that “to fail an inspection is not the end of the world.”

If there were perfectly built projects all the time, there wouldn’t be a need for building code inspectors, Shaw said.

“We’re there to catch the stuff that other people miss,” he said.
     
     
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Pushing LRT to 2019 introduces a new challenge: opening in the middle of an Ottawa winter

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: September 11, 2018


OC Transpo faces the possibility of launching a new multibillion-dollar transit technology in the dead of an Ottawa winter, now that the city is pushing the launch of the $2.1-billion LRT line to sometime between January and March 2019.

Coun. Stephen Blais, chair of the transit commission, knows it’s not the best time to open the Confederation Line.

“This is a big change for customers. A lot of people today get one bus and take it directly downtown,” Blais said on Tuesday. “Some of the bus route changes have made walking distances a little bit longer than they were in the past, and so I think we should put some thought into that, understanding that winters in Ottawa can be particularly tough. February is normally the worst of it and so I think it bears some more thought.”

The city announced on Monday that the 12.5-kilometre LRT line won’t be open in November, as planned. The Rideau Transit Group has told the city it can deliver the project on Nov. 30, rather than Nov. 2. Considering the rigorous testing and commissioning program that follows the handover, the city doesn’t think it could launch LRT until 2019. A new opening date hasn’t been set.

On the positive side, the city will be able to test the LRT system in winter conditions before opening it to the public.

However, a winter launch introduces the threat of wildly unpredictable weather. Snowy, bone-chilling conditions could impact buses trying to bring riders to LRT stations, which will have heated waiting areas. In the afternoon peak period, long-haul transit riders will need to wait for buses after leaving LRT stations at Tunney’s Pasture and Blair.

Operations on Day 1 will shape public opinion of LRT and the new transit network.

It’s not as easy as simply delaying the launch until there are warmer temperatures, Blais said. There could be contractual obligations tied to the launch date and there could be budget consequences to holding off on running the rail service, he said.

“If the train is ready and we’re paying for it, it’s hard financially to justify not using it because then we’re paying for two systems at the same time,” Blais said.

“That’s part of what I’m sure will be the ongoing discussion over the next days and weeks internally here at city hall, and also with the Rideau Transit Group, on how to best manage that, but also not to set false expectations. I really hope Rideau Transit Group comes back with a date they can prove that they can hit. So far, they have not, in my view, been overly transparent or forthright with their ability to meet the targets that they’ve established.”

Blais said he still doesn’t get how council could receive a memo on Aug. 13 suggesting RTG was on track for a Nov. 2 handover, only to have the information refuted days later.

“I don’t understand how Rideau Transit Group can consistently be so wrong,” Blais said. “These were supposed to be experts. They’re supposed to have decades, if not centuries, worth of experience combined, and yet they’re consistently proven wrong, and they’re not transparent about their inability to deliver. They’re giving us information that, when we have outside people look at it, is just blatantly untrue.”

This news organization has tried to reach RTG’s media liaison for comment from the company on the latest construction delay. There has been no reply.

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This is my biggest concern with the new launch timeline, I have no doubt that launching the LRT in winter will be more of a s***show than launching in a non-snowy season would've been.

That said, I would rather a s***show of a winter opening than to delay the launch even further.
     
     
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Frustrating that we don't have access to the FEDCO presentation because Egli isn't allowed to post it on his website during the election period.

I don't see any reason why the City can't post it on their website.

Yes they have the presentation on Youtube, but there is no image, and it seems the beginning is cut.
Good Day.

As for the City...... Duh! Less info is good-gooder-goodest (as far as they're concerned) !

I posted a summary of the August Q2 memo to FEDCO back in this thread (#7962) that I obtained from K.E.'s support staff in response to if they knew where on City I could find it/them, and have just posted the full PDF (10 pg.) at :

https://www.otrainfans.ca/forum/topic/30-revenue-service-availability-date-for-confederation-line/

FYI, Shane has posted the September FEDCO update deck there as well, also PDF (44 pg.).

So..... EnJoy?
     
     
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Another option would be to have an extended free trial period in February while maintaining existing bus routes. And start revenue service in March, when the weather is a bit better. During the trail they could probably reduce the frequency of the 91 to save a bit of money, as it is basically a subset of the 95 and the LRT will relieve a good chunk of the demand it serves from people who are already transferring.

     
     
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