Phoenix Development News (3)

[exit2lef]

Originally Posted by fawd

University of Phoenix Stadium > State Farm Stadium


I'm good with it! 18-yr agreement.


https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...U3CEQb5Q02fcfda6&t=1536077769&j=83632931

It sure is a lot less confusing than a stadium named for a university with no academic program.

[combusean]

"The Farm" seems like it'd start making some legacies for a team that has been here a while but limited in its history. I definitely approve, especially for how skeezy UoP has historically been.

Up next should be Geico (or possibly Progressive or Nationwide...) Arena and USAA Center to replace the indian tribes' names and solidify Phoenix's backoffice insurance reputation.

[fawd]

Originally Posted by combusean

"The Farm" seems like it'd start making some legacies for a team that has been here a while but limited in its history. I definitely approve, especially for how skeezy UoP has historically been.

Up next should be Geico (or possibly Progressive or Nationwide...) Arena and USAA Center to replace the indian tribes' names and solidify Phoenix's backoffice insurance reputation.

Always thought GoDaddy would be great for local naming rights too...

[CrestedSaguaro]

The ever-changing Downtown Phoenix. The impact of Stewart and Link is becoming clearer by the day.

Edit: Shrunk the image up a bit.

[michael85225]

The Link is going to look amazing when completed. Hopefully we can get the other two towers too.

[AnthonyPHX]

Originally Posted by fawd

University of Phoenix Stadium > State Farm Stadium


I'm good with it! 18-yr agreement.


https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...U3CEQb5Q02fcfda6&t=1536077769&j=83632931

Well there goes my bet. I thought for sure we'd end up with 'Desert Diamond Stadium' given it's the new Casino nearby.

[haux]

The Link's new crane. The building is about as tall as The Stewart, at least the floor level is. Still plenty of room to go up.

[Obadno]

It has about 10 floors to go correct? Then they look lik theyll get started on Tower two pretty soon.

[pbenjamin]

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Documents/PZ/Z-41-18.pdf

This is a proposal for "a multifamily high-rise residential development with a building height of 164 feet and 15 stories" at the northeast corner of 7th Street and Thomas in what is now a parking lot for the Phoenix Country Club. The golf course itself is in a county island the the proposed site is in the city. City staff is recommending against approval. The Encanto VPC will hear it Monday night.

[CrestedSaguaro]

The corner at Portland/3rd St is fenced off for the hotel development. Sign is onsite with a rendering of the Cambria that will be going there.

[combusean]

This project really fills out that lot nicely. Almost a bit too deep with the historical setback, but filling one of those single-family estate lots with a 7 story building is a win.

Portland St has so many holes waiting to be filled. Should be fun to watch.

[SunDevil]

Originally Posted by pbenjamin

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Documents/PZ/Z-41-18.pdf

This is a proposal for "a multifamily high-rise residential development with a building height of 164 feet and 15 stories" at the northeast corner of 7th Street and Thomas in what is now a parking lot for the Phoenix Country Club. The golf course itself is in a county island the the proposed site is in the city. City staff is recommending against approval. The Encanto VPC will hear it Monday night.

I drive by everyday to work and that lot is always mostly empty. It would be quite out of place... but everything is out of place until it isn't. Not sure why this would not get approval when we already have high rises at Central and Camelback with no other tall buildings for a mile

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by SunDevil

I drive by everyday to work and that lot is always mostly empty. It would be quite out of place... but everything is out of place until it isn't. Not sure why this would not get approval when we already have high rises at Central and Camelback with no other tall buildings for a mile

Agreed there is a highrise on the other side of the golf course at Osborn and ~12th street

[biggus diggus]

Crystal point is the one on the north side. Very expensive. Very exclusive.

[azsunsurfer]

Originally Posted by pbenjamin

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Documents/PZ/Z-41-18.pdf

This is a proposal for "a multifamily high-rise residential development with a building height of 164 feet and 15 stories" at the northeast corner of 7th Street and Thomas in what is now a parking lot for the Phoenix Country Club. The golf course itself is in a county island the the proposed site is in the city. City staff is recommending against approval. The Encanto VPC will hear it Monday night.

They've been kicking around this proposal since before the recession. At one point it was going to be twin towers on that corner geared toward retirees. The same architect who designed most of the stuff going up on Roosevelt showed us some preliminary designs back then.

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by SunDevil

I drive by everyday to work and that lot is always mostly empty. It would be quite out of place... but everything is out of place until it isn't. Not sure why this would not get approval when we already have high rises at Central and Camelback with no other tall buildings for a mile

At only 164' and with 3 major high-rises less than 1/4 mile away (with Century Link at nearly 400'), I don't really think it would be that much out of place. Now the high-rise in Mesa...that's out of place.

On a side note, the renderings sure take a queue from the Stewart.

[exit2lef]

In reading the objections of city staff, it looks like the main theme is that high-rise development should be clustered closer to the light rail corridor. In theory I agree, but I wonder if we're splitting hairs here. Would this be approved if it were on the west side of 7th Street and therefore within a half mile of light rail? I also wonder what the outcome will be if the project is turned down. Will we see proposals like this clustered more in the zone the city wants, or will the proposals just not be made at all? It reminds me of some discussions of Phoenix history: Would Phoenix's downtown be stronger if high-rise development had never been permitted in Midtown? Or would the development just not have occurred anywhere within Phoenix city limits?

[combusean]

There's no direct planning precedent for it and in fact enough precedents against it so it's too tall by default. Except one--it is splitting hairs as it's across the street from where 250' would more or less be allowed by right.

In any event, it's just planners doing their job, but after studying the history of many plans, Phoenix planners have historically simply responded to the market.

[biggus diggus]

I think it would be strange to live in a luxury condo across the street from $600/mo apartments, a vacant gas station, a circle k, a check cashing place, and a vacant office building. Wouldn't be a good buy in my opinion.

[combusean]

If we're going to have that golf course there we may as well have it be the center of something useful. It's a stretch to think luxury condo dwellers over a golfcourse would be regular customers of the light rail.