Burnaby Updates

[LeftCoaster]

8 foot ceilings maybe, but the slab to slab will be closer to 10 ft.

I stick by my estimate of around 220-230m tall.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by skymaster

From that render I counted/estimated:

Ground Level Lobby (Approx. 30 foot ceiling)
Mezzanine Floor (Approx. 10 foot ceiling)
61 residential floors (8 foot ceilings?)
4 amenity floors in the crown (Approx. 10 foot ceilings)

Include maybe 7 inches in slab thickness between each res floor and 9 inches between lobby/mezz and amenity floors. Maybe about 185-190 meters.

For the taller tower of course.

It's doubtful the amenities will be in the crown (more likely at the roof of the retail podium level), and even if they are that they'll be 4 floors.

That Crown is more likely 2 or 3 storeys tall, in reality with a lot of that form just being a curtain wall and you also have to remember that the topmost level is almost certainly with mechanical equipment.

Also, for a building of this stature (and market level) the residential part will almost certainly be between 9'8 to 10' floor slab to floor slab (Again, more likely 10' for a ceiling height of just over 9' with a 9" thick slab).

A lot of this tower's height is going to be in that exaggerated crown (which is almost certainly why it was designed that way), despite the fact that most of it will almost certainly be uninhabited/uninhabitable non-covered space.
If I had to guess, two levels maximum, of that crown is what's likely to end up as amenities (if they go that route) with another amenities at the podium roof level, and above those will be an Elevator overrun, mechanical systems and rooftop access to window cleaning rigs and all that.

[officedweller]

Came across this pic:


https://twitter.com/dereklepper

[rofina]

Nothing like a good birds eye view picture of the region to disprove the whole "were running out of land" crowd.

[djmk]

Originally Posted by rofina

Nothing like a good birds eye view picture of the region to disprove the whole "were running out of land" crowd.

that really is not a whole lot of land

side note: crazy that you can barely make out all the homes in North Van under that canopy of trees.

[excel]

Originally Posted by rofina

Nothing like a good birds eye view picture of the region to disprove the whole "were running out of land" crowd.

In my opinion this picture perfectly shows how we are running out of land. If any of the green in this picture were to be developed at this point I would be quite disappointed.

[officedweller]

I think the "we're [not] running out of land" comment
was equivalent to "we're [not] running out of low density developable land to densify",
as opposed to "we're running out of raw undeveloped land".

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by djmk

Crazy that you can barely make out all the homes in North Van under that canopy of trees.

I actually like that. I don't like how buildings populate the West Vancouver's mountain face. I wonder how much political pressure there is to keep building higher up and into Cypress Mountain Provincial Park?

[rofina]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I think the "we're [not] running out of land" comment
was equivalent to "we're [not] running out of low density developable land to densify",
as opposed to "we're running out of raw undeveloped land".

This.

Ignoring the mountains of the North Shore, and Central Park.

That picture is 80% low density, mostly in fact still SFH.

Buildable land is not an issue.

[rofina]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I actually like that. I don't like how buildings populate the West Vancouver's mountain face. I wonder how much political pressure there is to keep building higher up and into Cypress Mountain Provincial Park?

It helps that British Pacific remains the sole owner - there is still a lot of land left for them to build on.

But I believe the maximum building height up West Van is actually governed by Metro Van and not just West Van. 1200 ft sounds like a familiar limit.

[djmk]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I actually like that. I don't like how buildings populate the West Vancouver's mountain face. I wonder how much political pressure there is to keep building higher up and into Cypress Mountain Provincial Park?

It's quite amazing. However, on the 17th at 3am, we had a massive house fire in our neighbourhood that totally destroyed the house. Flames higher than twice the house and embers flying so high that covered the whole block on a windless night. The lot had half a dozen super dry trees and is beside a green belt. It's a complete miracle that the whole of North Van did not go up in flames.

Needless to say, it freaked everyone out. And after a few questions, it seems that there is no real plan when a wildfire eventually does rip though.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by rofina

Nothing like a good birds eye view picture of the region to disprove the whole "were running out of land" crowd.

Should pan over to the left of this picture to make yours a stronger case.

Well, mentality is certainly changing. There was a time when suggesting tall buildings outside the traditional downtown or town centres was a complete no-no to many locals here.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by djmk

It's quite amazing. However, on the 17th at 3am, we had a massive house fire in our neighbourhood that totally destroyed the house. Flames higher than twice the house and embers flying so high that covered the whole block on a windless night. The lot had half a dozen super dry trees and is beside a green belt. It's a complete miracle that the whole of North Van did not go up in flames.

Needless to say, it freaked everyone out. And after a few questions, it seems that there is no real plan when a wildfire eventually does rip though.

One by one the wood frames will be going up in smokes. It's just a matter of time, a ticking time bomb I would say because the chances of that happening is way higher than a concrete structure.

[SpongeG]

the area south of Metrotown will continue to densify.

I would like to see the area from the 29th ave station south to kingsway densify

[Cypherus]

Great picture, but not one you can typically take during "Smaugust" (August forest fire smoke). Makes Burnaby look more of a destination than other "me too" cities in Canada (*cough Mississauga).

[skylinegazer]

n/m

[vanman]

Akimbo

LOCATION
4285 Dawson Street, Burnaby, BC

Building Size
350 Homes, 13,600 sq. ft. of Retail and 45,750 sq. ft. of Office space

Coming Soon
Fall 2018

http://www.imanidevelopment.ca/homes/#featured-projects

[excel]

Looks pretty cool.

[officedweller]

Nice.

[officedweller]

Akimbo seems to be this one
- 40-45 storeys....

Originally Posted by vanman

From Vancouvermarket.ca

Another Highrise Proposal for Brentwood Area
Posted on July 25, 2016

On the same day that Onni is submitting a formal rezoning application for it’s first phase of 3 residential towers at Gilmore Station, another rezoning application has been filed for a site just East of Onni’s land in the rapidly developing Brentwood area of Burnaby.

The application is being made for a currently industrial property at 4285-4295 Dawson Street, at the northwest corner of Madison Avenue. The site is 56,500 SF. The site is designated in the Brentwood Town Centre Plan a mixed use high-density (RM-5s).

The preliminary proposal by Imani Development, is for a mixed use development comprised of retail, office and a highrise residential tower, to a maximum density of 6.0 FAR, with a residential density of 5.0 FAR.

The application notes that the tower height would be 431 feet, or likely around 40-45 storeys.