Cambie Corridor Updates

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Rico

Now everyone has different tastes and opinions. Personally i find alot of what is going up to be quite bland and generic.....but I have been around long enough to remember what it was like 20 years ago and it was a lot more bland and generic than it is now. To me what is going up is vastly superior to what was there before. The question I guess is are most people in this forum happy with the direction the Cambie corridor is going in or if not what needs to be done?

I agree whats being built there is superior to what was there and compared to other stuff in the past this is a significant improvement. I would personally love to see the areas like around King Edward more developed even with the same level of density as OV for a footprint equal to that of the OV neighborhood. I like whats been built so far at Marine Gateway but everywhere else I can see greater densities going into those areas would be great. The leftover fringe of single family homes is disappointing because of lack of urban look and feel. Overall I have a lot of mixed feelings. Maybe we will get more density in future councils once Vision is a distant memory....

[BodomReaper]

Originally Posted by Changing City

Well, the residential density is higher than the residential density of the proposed Oakridge Centre redevelopment. My guess is you find most of what's being built insignificant, and you're likely to be constantly disappointed with most of Cambie Corridor.

Pretty much everything about Cambie Corridor planning - both in terms of process and outcome - has been an abject failure, and a damning indictment of our city's political leadership and urban planners. It is actually difficult to imagine a worse scenario besides no upzoning at all.

[logan5]

Originally Posted by BodomReaper

Pretty much everything about Cambie Corridor planning - both in terms of process and outcome - has been an abject failure, and a damning indictment of our city's political leadership and urban planners. It is actually difficult to imagine a worse scenario besides no upzoning at all.

Pretty much anybody could imagine a worse scenario.

For Cambie and everywhere else in the COV, I would adopt a policy of 50% share for rental buildings. That’s what I would change about Cambie. Density is fine for me. Anyways, the best neighbourhoods in Vancouver usually revolve around large nodes of rental buildings.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by BodomReaper

Pretty much everything about Cambie Corridor planning - both in terms of process and outcome - has been an abject failure, and a damning indictment of our city's political leadership and urban planners. It is actually difficult to imagine a worse scenario besides no upzoning at all.

At least with no previous upzoning we can still begin with a clean slate for something much better.

[officedweller]

From Pennyfarthing twiiter:

Grayson
Just south of the haunted house site near King Edward Ave.


https://twitter.com/__Pennyfarthing

[officedweller]

From VnacuverMarket.ca:

Details of Heather Lands Redevelopment Include 12 Towers, 2.3 Million SF

Details of the overall land use policy include:
◾An overall maximum density of 2.50 FSR (2,296,000 SF);
◾Approx. 2,500 residential units;
◾Heights from 3 to 24-storeys;
◾A minimum of 20% of units for affordable housing (approx. 530 units);
◾20% of units as ‘attainable home ownership’ (approx. 530 units);
◾20,000 – 60,000 SF of local serving retail & service uses (ie. cafe, small grocery, pharmacy, medical office);
◾One acre site for potential 4-storey Conseil Scolaire Francophone school;
◾Minimum 4 acres of secured park and open space (min. 2 acres public park);
◾A new 69-space childcare facility;
◾A cultural centre (minimum 15,000 SF);
◾Potential demolition or relocation of the Fairmont building;
◾New 35th Avenue connection through site;
◾A new neighbourhood commercial street inside the site;
◾Extension of Baillie Street and Manson Streets into the site;
◾Redesign of Heather Street to accommodate new Heather Street bikeway.

http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2018/05/10...opment-include-12-towers-2-3-million-sf/


http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2018/05/10...opment-include-12-towers-2-3-million-sf/


http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2018/05/10...opment-include-12-towers-2-3-million-sf/

The full policy report: http://council.vancouver.ca/20180515/documents/rr3.pdf

[WarrenC12]

Looks alright I guess.

1. Needs more childcare spaces(!!)
2. Not sure why Heather is being closed there. It's a good bike path, I hope that is maintained at least.

And the constant gripes:
3. Should have kept the heritage building
4. 33rd Ave Canada Line station should be a requirement as part of this

[osirisboy]

I also wonder why they are closing heather street and would be nice to have baille street go through as well also would be nice if the city would consider fsr of say 6

[Migrant_Coconut]

I think it needs a pond.

Originally Posted by osirisboy

I also wonder why they are closing heather street and would be nice to have baille street go through as well also would be nice if the city would consider fsr of say 6

Traffic calming? It's no secret that City Council wants everybody either walking, biking, or funneled into driving on the arterials.

[logan5]

Yep. 2.5 FSR is ridiculous. FSR 6 or even 7 shoiuld be automatic for a huge site like this, and no more towers please. All mid-rise.

I have nothing against the tower form itself, but they are so terribly designed, they have become a blight on the city.

[jlousa]

Don't think a 2.5FSR is out of place, 3 would be better but that would be about it for a site this big and in this location. Feel the constant plopping down of towers is getting ridiculous, midrises would be so much more suitable here, also would've prefered the city grid over the proposed one. Feel the city should do more to improve the grid system not make it worse.

[scryer]

I don't mind the design overall.

But yeah I would rather see mid-rises this far out of the downtown core. If we are doing any kind of vertical sprawl, we should keep it to Main Street and Broadway.

[Metro-One]

Umm, why are they arbitrarily dead ending Heather Street?

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Don't think a 2.5FSR is out of place, 3 would be better but that would be about it for a site this big and in this location. Feel the constant plopping down of towers is getting ridiculous, midrises would be so much more suitable here, also would've prefered the city grid over the proposed one. Feel the city should do more to improve the grid system not make it worse.

At 2.5 FSR gross, the density proposed is more than the Olympic Village and the two blocks to the south. Those blocks, with the Village, Wall, Pinnacle's 'Living' and 'The One' and Executive's 'West' have 2.3m sq. ft. of residential, and just over 200,000 of non-residential including the Village retail, Craft beer hall and the Community Centre. That's on 1.15m sq. ft. of land, including the plaza.

Individual buildings and blocks will no doubt be at 5 FSR or even higher, but once you add in roads, public spaces etc. the gross density number drops. Just taking the Wall and Executive land parcels in SEFC, with significant streetwall massing, they come out at under 5 FSR overall, and obviously less if you add in half the width of the surrounding streets to get a gross number.

This project looks to add a significant amout of space, and some appropriate elements like retail and childcare as well as a new park, at a density that would have been completely unacceptable only a few years ago. For example, the Arbutus neighbourhood that replaced the Carling Brewery, had a gross density of well under 2 FSR.

[officedweller]

Chelsea
by Cressey @ Cambie & 31st:


https://twitter.com/CresseyGroup

[misher]

I've been told that the city wanted the Oakridge development to build social housing so they were going to build a tower and then a wall to separate it from the luxury strata units Of course the city found out.

[Feathered Friend]

https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/5812-5888cambie/documents/renderings1.pdf


https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/6288ashstreet/documents/perspectives.pdf


http://www.officemb.ca/work/495-w-41st-avenue/

Zombie Rezoning Applications Along Cambie Corridor Set to Meet Vastly Different Fates

5812 – 5888 Cambie / 6288 Ash Street / 495 West 41st Ave
We think it’s likely that most Vancouverites know about the major changes that have taken place along Cambie Street in the last few years, and are probably aware that Phase 3 of the Cambie Corridor area plan calls for even larger changes in the Oakridge Towncentre area at Cambie and 41st Avenue. However, mixed into that wave of change are a trio of proposals that seem to have fallen through the cracks. As they are facing very different outcomes, we thought we would help bring them to light.

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/08/24...idor-set-to-meet-vastly-different-fates/

[LeftCoaster]

Nice write-up. Those all seem like good news stories to me, with the exception of the middle one.

[officedweller]

Thanks.

Good to see that there are (likely) a coupe of re-thinks on those shorter proposals.
Westbank shouldn't be the only game in [Oakridge] town [centre].

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

http://www.officemb.ca/work/495-w-41st-avenue/



https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/08/24...idor-set-to-meet-vastly-different-fates/

This seems like an awfully low density proposal for the corner of 41st and Cambie. Basically it just mirrors the 1950s office block across the street.