Great Canadian Skyline Thread II - Page 423

Martin Mtl · #**8441** Posted **Aug 9, 2018, 10:15 PM**

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someone123 · #**8442** Posted **Aug 9, 2018, 10:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Most "iconic" highrises are office buildings which is the case with all but one of those. The recent Toronto boom has been largely residential with something like one office building for every thirty residential buildings. I don't think it's reasonable to expect a residential boom to produce the same kind of iconic masterpieces that an office boom might considering how rare residential masterpieces tend to be.

Most of my list is office buildings but it would be possible to make a similar list of residential highrises. New York is full of them. 8 Spruce is one example and Via 57 West is another. Marina City is residential. John Hancock Center in Chicago is mixed use. These things exist.

I know this is subjective but that is why I left it open to interpretation. Anybody can suggest a building they think is iconic.

L Tower is the only unenthusiastic suggestion. L Tower to me looks like what you get if you imply to an architect that you want something that looks unique but then go back a few times and tell them to make it cheaper. It is actually missing major architectural details that were present in the renderings (the circular clear part with the exposed stairways). At the end of the day it is yet another blue glass condo with a slight curve. If you tilted it over Front Street and made a twin it would look like a triumphal arch that Saddam Hussein had built in the 80's.

Wpg_Guy · #**8443** Posted **Aug 9, 2018, 11:02 PM**

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Nouvellecosse · #**8444** Posted **Aug 9, 2018, 11:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by someone123

Most of my list is office buildings but it would be possible to make a similar list of residential highrises. New York is full of them. 8 Spruce is one example and Via 57 West is another. Marina City is residential. John Hancock Center in Chicago is mixed use. These things exist.

My point isn't that they don't exist, but that the ratio of iconic residential highrises to total residential highrises seems to be much lower than with office meaning you'll usually see far more normal ones for each iconic example. The fact that NY has quite a few examples doesn't change this given that NY has quite a few examples of pretty much every high-rise type given that it has at least 3x more highrises than Toronto.

someone123 · #**8445** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 12:33 AM**

Drone shot of the Queen's Marque construction site and a chunk of the downtown Halifax skyline:

The white crane on the left is for 1595 Barrington and the Green Lantern redevelopment. The bare concrete structure behind that is a separate project farther up the hill.

Bishop's Landing area with Flynn Flats under construction and the Alexander finishing up.

Full video:

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GeneralLea · #**8446** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 1:15 AM**

Nice Halifax angles there

mistercorporate · #**8447** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 1:17 AM**

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GeneralLea · #**8448** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 1:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by someone123

I know this is subjective but that is why I left it open to interpretation. Anybody can suggest a building they think is iconic.

I think with how Toronto's been growing....the sense of "iconic" would be derived not from a means of popularity and tourism, but more of a local "iconic"....like iconic for a neighbourhood, perhaps a borough. It's impacts, being that most buildings in this boom are residential as already expressed, are more associated with how people view them from a more word-of-mouth or social manner in terms of relatively close distance, and not say....from a friend who lives in another nation-state from you.

Personally....I have difficulty in deciding what's an "icon" for the city. The L tower is a good suggestion, albeit it may be more known because of it's location.

One could argue that.....say the Rail Deck Park didn't happen for another twenty years....that the Bay Park Centre would have a memorable feature with the park they'll have.....but it wouldn't allow that complex to be memorable in the sense of other icons, despite it's location and Go transit terminal.

For the future...One Yonge and the Well won't become icons...but they will be very impactful for their neighbourhood.....although on a city wide perspective (or maybe just downtown in the short-term) the Rail Deck Park could become a HUGE new exciting thing for people to visit in downtown....at least for a few months, and depending on how the city plans to design it....and possibly allow it to be year-round.

If they took the route that was the Berczy Park in terms of finishes and quality, this'll be a stunning success.....albeit I'm comparing apples and oranges.

Martin Mtl · #**8449** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 1:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by GeneralLeeTPHLS

I think with how Toronto's been growing....the sense of "iconic" would be derived not from a means of popularity and tourism, but more of a local "iconic"....like iconic for a neighbourhood, perhaps a borough.

That's a good point.

I think that among the towers UC in the country, Vancouver House and Telus Sky are sure bet to become iconic, locally, nationally and probably even internationally (at least Vancouver House). No other project qualify, for me at least.

mistercorporate · #**8450** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 1:39 AM**

The CN Tower + Skydome combo are well recognized and iconic even internationally, how many iconic buildings does a city need. When you think of Auckland you think of their communications tower, same with Seattle and Berlin.

GeneralLea · #**8451** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 1:54 AM**

On a North America perspective, I would say the Distillery District is iconic....as a socio-historical point. (along with the obvious said above haha)

Missingsausage's twin towers are pretty iconic.....but it's mostly because of the location and the design. The rest of the area around it is pretty bleak in contrast, including the towers podium.

I can definitely see Calgary having a few good icons....the bridge with the cross-flex design would be included IMO. Perhaps if the ICE District really takes off, the arena could be iconic for Edmonton's image.

softee · #**8452** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 2:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

That's a good point.

I think that among the towers UC in the country, Vancouver House and Telus Sky are sure bet to become iconic, locally, nationally and probably even internationally (at least Vancouver House). No other project qualify, for me at least.

I don't think either of those buildings will become iconic outside of their respective cities. Most people in the rest of Canada let alone the world will have no idea they even exist.

saffronleaf · #**8453** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 2:46 AM**

It's a bit old but what about Aura? It's an anchor for the skyline, especially viewed from the east or west. Also L-Tower is cool.

Ramako · #**8454** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 2:57 AM**

Outside of massive cities like New York, most major cities have only one structure that can be called iconic of that city. Hard to think of more than a couple of cities in the world that have more than one iconic building. Can't imagine how it won't ever be the CN Tower for Toronto.

I don't even think the Gehry towers (if they got built) would surpass it. Gerhy's 8 Spruce is nice and all, but if you showed 9/10 people a picture of it, they'd have never seen it and have no idea what city it's from.

Martin Mtl · #**8455** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 3:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by softee

I don't think either of those buildings will become iconic outside of their respective cities. Most people in the rest of Canada let alone the world will have no idea they even exist.

There is obviously different level of "iconic". On the upmost level, only a few buildings in the world would be recognize by the majority of people (The Eiffel tower, Big Ben, the Coliseum, The Empire State building).

On a lower level, for anyone who is interested in architecture and cities, the spectre is wider and I bet Vancouver House will fall into that category. But there is so much new extravagant constructions everywhere in the world, that very few new buildings will become internationally iconic to the point where they are recognize by the majority. Even something like Shanghai tower, or that new tower in Tokyo, or even the Burj Khalifa will probably never achieve the iconic stature of the Eiffel Tower or the Empire Sate building.

Ramako · #**8456** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 4:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

There is obviously different level of "iconic". On the upmost level, only a few buildings in the world would be recognize by the majority of people (The Eiffel tower, Big Ben, the Coliseum, The Empire State building).

On a lower level, for anyone who is interested in architecture and cities, the spectre is wider and I bet Vancouver House will fall into that category. But there is so much new extravagant constructions everywhere in the world, that very few new buildings will become internationally iconic to the point where they are recognize by the majority. Even something like Shanghai tower, or that new tower in Tokyo, or even the Burj Khalifa will probably never achieve the iconic stature of the Eiffel Tower or the Empire Sate building.

As far as a "lesser tier" of iconic towers go in Toronto, I'd offer Picasso Condos:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File

icasso_on_Richmond_Tower,_Toronto_20170416_1.jpg

I'd also offer Mies Van der Rohe's TD Centre. It's an International Style masterpiece.

https://onedio.com/haber/60larda-insa-edilmis-en-yuksek-12-bina-564417

Exhibit Condos:

http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/11/photo-day-exhibit-residences

Absolute World/Marilyn Monroe Towers (yes technically this is Mississauga):

https://www.archdaily.com/306566/absolute-towers-mad-architects

River City 3 (still U/C):

http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/river-city-condos-phase-3

I also personally think that E Condos is super cool, but I might be alone on that:

https://toronto.skyrisecities.com/forum/...8s-bazis-rosario-varacalli.17683/page-89

New City Hall is of course so iconic that it's not only the city's logo, but has played roles in both film and television:

http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2015/09/toronto-celebrate-50th-anniversary-new-city-hall

And finally, The One (U/C):

https://www.rew.ca/news/canada-s-tallest-building-begins-construction-in-toronto-1.23062114

mousquet · #**8457** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 4:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ramako

As far as a "lesser tier" of iconic towers go in Toronto, I'd offer Picasso Condos:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File

icasso_on_Richmond_Tower,_Toronto_20170416_1.jpg

Um, this is a smart and stylish contemporary condo building.
At least to me.
I hope everyone on here realizes too...

Just too bad the podium looks like some parking garage or something that bland.
To be real class-A++, you must bury parked cars.

Coldrsx · #**8458** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 5:27 AM**

Folkfest

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Wpg_Guy · #**8459** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 6:13 AM**

awesome venue

TorontoDrew · #**8460** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 1:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by mousquet

Um, this is a smart and stylish contemporary condo building.
At least to me.
I hope everyone on here realizes too...

Just too bad the podium looks like some parking garage or something that bland.
To be real class-A++, you must bury parked cars.

That's the back side of the podium facing an alley way. Also I believe the parking is buried.

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