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[masonh2479]

Originally Posted by Austin1971

Spectrum News

http://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/aust...-destinations#

The airport's spokesman said they added 10 more stops since January and they are anticipating even more carriers to sign up. He said a big part of the growth in non-stop services is in passenger traffic and airline seating capacity.

Crossing my fingers Air Koryo comes soon!

[khowaga]

Originally Posted by masonh2479

Crossing my fingers Air Koryo comes soon!

Save it for a.net. We all know Montevideo is the next intercontinental destination

[LoneStarMike]

So I'm thinking this is how the gates in the new extension would be numbered:

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If there are two widebodies at the end of the concourse, one would use the Jetways for Gates 1 and 3, and the other would use the Jetways for Gates 2 and 4. If there are no widebodies at the end of the concourse, I believe the Jetways for Gates 1 and 3 and Gates 2 and 4 can be adjusted so they're further apart allowing each of them to service a narrowbody plane.



Note there are lines for an aircraft parking space in the lower right hand corner of the image, but here is no Jetway for it. I'm thinking the Jetway that I've marked "Movable Jetway" can be swung around to service an aircraft at that parking position. I'm guessing the Jetways for Gates 1 and 3 can do the same thing.

[khowaga]

Originally Posted by LoneStarMike

So I'm thinking this is how the gates in the new extension would be numbered:

If there are two widebodies at the end of the concourse, one would use the Jetways for Gates 1 and 3, and the other would use the Jetways for Gates 2 and 4. If there are no widebodies at the end of the concourse, I believe the Jetways for Gates 1 and 3 and Gates 2 and 4 can be adjusted so they're further apart allowing each of them to service a narrowbody plane.

Note there are lines for an aircraft parking space in the lower right hand corner of the image, but here is no Jetway for it. I'm thinking the Jetway that I've marked "Movable Jetway" can be swung around to service an aircraft at that parking position. I'm guessing the Jetways for Gates 1 and 3 can do the same thing.

This makes sense, but the highest numbered gate only went up 9 digits, from 25 to 34; if there were going to be 12 new positions they haven't added enough numbers to encompass them all. (Notice that on the airport graphic showing how the gates will be renumbered, the existing gates 2, 3 and 4 don't have numbers yet; they should be 10, 11 & 12).

For simplicity's sake during dual-bridge boarding, it might be that they'll designate the swing gates as 1-A and 2-A?

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Actually, no, check that -- I see what you're saying. Gate 14 in the above diagram is existing gate 4, right? So, we're gaining 9 new contact bridges, but we're losing 2; therefore in order to make up for it, the two double-bridge gates will have to function separately at times.

Is it wrong I actually kind of find this disappointing?

[ILUVSAT]

No. Actually, I believe they are adding 12 "new" contact bridges - subtracting the three consumed by the expansion - for a total of nine new gates.

[khowaga]

Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

No. Actually, I believe they are adding 12 "new" contact bridges - subtracting the three consumed by the expansion - for a total of nine new gates.

Right. But they keep talking about the nine-gate expansion; it's actually a 12 gate expansion and ... yeah. I think I'm on the same page as everyone else now.

[LoneStarMike]

Originally Posted by khowaga

Gate 14 in the above diagram is existing gate 4, right?

No Gate 14 in the above diagram is Gate 5.

[khowaga]

Originally Posted by LoneStarMike

No Gate 14 in the above diagram is Gate 5.

Now I’m confused again.

Why is gate 4 being taken out? Is it too close to the new construction for clearance?

[LoneStarMike]

Originally Posted by khowaga

Why is gate 4 being taken out? Is it too close to the new construction for clearance?

Yes. But don't think of it as being "taken out." Take it as "being relocated" within the new construction.

This is a rough diagram of what you'd see if there weren't any widebodies at the end of the pier:



R4, R3 and R2 are the old Gates 4, 3, and 2 that are just being relocated to the new section. N-1 through N-9 are the new (additional) gates.

This is a rough diagram of what you'd see if there were two widebodies at the end of the pier:



You have your 3 relocated gates, 5 new (additional) narrowbody gates and 2 new (additional) widebody gates.

I actually think it's a smart design. You can serve more narrowbody planes during peak times like early morning departures and late night arrivals when there are no international widebodies at the airport, but you still have the capability to have two double jetway gates when you need them.

[khowaga]

Originally Posted by LoneStarMike

Yes. But don't think of it as being "taken out." Take it as "being relocated" within the new construction.

But I like gate 4... (ok, I’m kidding).

Originally Posted by LoneStarMike

I actually think it's a smart design. You can serve more narrowbody planes during peak times like early morning departures and late night arrivals when there are no international widebodies at the airport, but you still have the capability to have two double jetway gates when you need them.

Right. This makes perfect sense, since on average right now we only have a max of two flights per day on a widebody, neither of which requires space before 1400. Also, depending on the 767 model in use, dual jetbridge boarding might not be necessary.

I got confused since they keep saying they’re adding 9 gates, so that, for some reason, just equalled “there are only 9 gates in the extension” in my head.

[lzppjb]

lol All this talk of gate numbering. I don't fly enough to be confused. Next time I fly I'll just follow the signs.

[LoneStarMike]

Originally Posted by khowaga

I got confused since they keep saying they’re adding 9 gates, so that, for some reason, just equalled “there are only 9 gates in the extension” in my head.

Yeah I know. It is confusing.

Something else I was thinking about with all this talk about a possible focus city for Delta. A lot of people are wondering how many of the 9 new gates they'll get. Some have said six or maybe seven.

Let's say they got six of the nine new gates. But what if they got some (or all) of the three relocated gates as well?

And that would still leave their old gates (currently Gates 5 and 6) available for other carriers.

[khowaga]

Originally Posted by LoneStarMike

Yeah I know. It is confusing.

Something else I was thinking about with all this talk about a possible focus city for Delta. A lot of people are wondering how many of the 9 new gates they'll get. Some have said six or maybe seven.

Let's say they got six of the nine new gates. But what if they got some (or all) of the three relocated gates as well?

And that would still leave their old gates (currently Gates 5 and 6) available for other carriers.

6x daily to both Pyongyang AND Montevideo. @masonh2479 and I *both* win!

[Jdawgboy]

Not exactly ABIA specific but it is about Delta so I figured "why not" so here's the link.

https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/d...-try-this.html

I wonder if Delta can do that here?

[DoubleC]

Originally Posted by Jdawgboy

Not exactly ABIA specific but it is about Delta so I figured "why not" so here's the link.

https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/d...-try-this.html

I wonder if Delta can do that here?

What if they have to push the aircraft in the other direction than from where it arrived? Then it becomes a 135 degree turn .

[khowaga]

New construction update:

http://www.austintexas.gov/blogs/con...ruction-update

Highlights: gate renumbering, expansion at 75% mark (and they’re turning on the AC!), a new private hanger.

[DoubleC]

Regarding Volaris, it looks like they codeshared with Frontier (which now has a pretty good presence here) so that probably is why the numbers are up, and this is what they were waiting for. This was all agreed upon in January, I'm guessing they just recently started doing this? I can book something like CVG-LAX-GDL on Volaris.mx, can't do it on FlyFrontier.com

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...eshare-444941/

[khowaga]

Originally Posted by DoubleC

Regarding Volaris, it looks like they codeshared with Frontier (which now has a pretty good presence here) so that probably is why the numbers are up, and this is what they were waiting for. This was all agreed upon in January, I'm guessing they just recently started doing this? I can book something like CVG-LAX-GDL on Volaris.mx, can't do it on FlyFrontier.com

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...eshare-444941/

Maybe? I’ve been wondering why they were still here considering their LFs were absolute trash.

But good for them; its nice having a carrier that can keep AeroMexico’s fares in check.

[eskimo33]

If you look at page 234 of the FY 19 budget, it mentions "initial planning for another ten-gate expansion to accommodate passenger growth over the next decade." Unfortunately, it does not say where the expansion will be located.

https://assets.austintexas.gov/budge...osedBudget.pdf