I'm sure this has already been mentioned somewhere, 1330 & 1360 Hornby are up for sale. The site currently allows for a 377' tower.
West End Plan updates at Jim Deva Plaza yesterday evening:
1180 Comox, an infill project at Mole Hill nearing completion:
And finally a quick look at the Prima Properties proposal at 1157 Burrard (current location of the Davie Village Community Garden):
The glazing will have shades with a color palette based on the local natural scenery to provide an ever changing look during the day. They are hoping to build to 43 stories which is more than what is currently allowed for the site. Interestingly it doesn't look like the adjacent St. Paul's site will be able to build much higher than 25 stories due to shadowing on Nelson Park. As for the Esso site across the street, it would only be allowed to go as high as The Milano. Perhaps someone could enlighten me if I'm wrong. The Prima proposal looks O.K. to me so far. Now if I could only afford a suite in any of these new towers
I'm guessing that there is an attempt to first make alleys welcoming, interesting spaces so that people will be used to alleys as public space. First get buy in, then it will be easier to truly activate the laneways with retail, etc. It seems to be working, Alley Oop is packed with people taking pictures every time I walk past it.
Short lanes like Alley Oop work because they are close to major retail streets: they do not make visitors feel that they are sucked into an evil unsafe zone. For long dark ones like that behind Orpheum: definitely fail unless mass retail is introduced and the surroundings spruced and cleaned up.
It looks like Strand will need to make some major revisions, as the UDP came down hard on the location of the parking ramp. This is not surprising, as from the report it seems City Staff also thought poorly of that aspect. Given Strand's comments here and at the open house, I'm not sure how they plan to resolve the issue. I do I imagine this will cost them a fair bit of a change, and means that it might be a few months before we see their answer to the problem. My take is that the current layout of the ramp is indeed a big waste of space, and it seemed like more of a quick solution when the proposed access from Harwood was nixed. Still, my sympathy is with them as the building design was pleasing, it provided a good unit mix/layout, and the lot size/location does present difficulties.
1055 Harwood will have social housing for the rich:
Families earning up to $104,440 are still deemed eligible to live in the “social housing” component of a proposed Vancouver West End development. Singles with a maximum income of $71,200 can also qualify for these homes, according to a city staff report.
The so-called social-housing units are a component of a 32-storey condo tower planned at 1055 Harwood Street.
An annual income of $104,440 is not what poor families typically earn. In fact, that income is even way above the earnings of what the City of Vancouver considers moderate-income households. Based on the city’s measure, a family is earning a moderate income if it gets between $30,000 and $80,000 a year.
High-earning families can now qualify for social housing because social housing is no longer what many people think it is. It used to be that low-income people often lived in social housing, but not anymore in Vancouver. Under the leadership of the ruling Vision Vancouver party, the city has redefined social housing...
That article cheesed me off big time. So if my partner and I, making say $40-50k each before taxes, are now considered rich by the Straight's standards...? We still can't afford a car and penny pinch to make wise financial decisions.
That's also the maximum cut off family income. There are different forms of below-market housing, which is then technically classified as "social housing". These are not welfare rate, or the other rates, and probably just the top-tier rate for HILs.
This is not social housing for those making under 30k. Not every below market housing unit needs to be. I understand the outrage over labels and definitions but it's not helping the conversation or the issues.
The coloured glazing looks like it'll only be on the commercial component(?)
Reminds me of the colour blocking on the church at 1155 Thurlow and/or Dal Gruer Substation.
Presumably the tower is setback from the adjacent commercial building to the west so that building can be redeveloped.
Seems ridiculous that the tower at Davie & Hornby is being sliced to prevent shadowing on Davie & Burrard when this will be built there.
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A few quick updates (my pics)...
And finally a quick look at the Prima Properties proposal at 1157 Burrard (current location of the Davie Village Community Garden):
The glazing will have shades with a color palette based on the local natural scenery to provide an ever changing look during the day. They are hoping to build to 43 stories which is more than what is currently allowed for the site. Interestingly it doesn't look like the adjacent St. Paul's site will be able to build much higher than 25 stories due to shadowing on Nelson Park. As for the Esso site across the street, it would only be allowed to go as high as The Milano. Perhaps someone could enlighten me if I'm wrong. The Prima proposal looks O.K. to me so far. Now if I could only afford a suite in any of these new towers
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The coloured glazing looks like it'll only be on the commercial component(?)
Reminds me of the colour blocking on the church at 1155 Thurlow and/or Dal Gruer Substation.
Seems ridiculous that the tower at Davie & Hornby is being sliced to prevent shadowing on Davie & Burrard when this will be built there.
Thanks! The glazing is clear, the windows will have colored shades which will cover the entire tower. The opening & closing of the colored shades will provide an ever changing look. The City has given certain locations preferential treatment for higher towers, due in part to view cones/shadowing/contrast etc. This site is one of those locations. The tower at Hornby & Davie is evidently not one of those locations. A bit arbitrary I suppose.
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I think it's now "written" that will never happen again. People I know who work / have worked on that with Henriquez said that was a one-off for the City. It would be a matter of finding the document that supports that, getting the details on it.
Yeah, the architectural industry calls the Telus overhangs "Toderian's love handles"; true story.
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The coloured glazing looks like it'll only be on the commercial component(?)
Just to confirm Vanville's comment the coloured blinds will run up the entirety of the west facade.
My comments in the open house were that the west facade looked good but they needed to do something for the south due to its prominence in the skyline and when entering downtown over the Burrard St Bridge.
Thanks! The glazing is clear, the windows will have colored shades which will cover the entire tower. The opening & closing of the colored shades will provide an ever changing look.
Thanks.
I guess that's a bit like 999 Seymour, or the original concept for Concord's "Colours", which was replaced by the Arc.
There were pylons placed near where the old bull sculpture on West Georgia was located. Maybe it's coming back?
I sure hope so. Thanks for the heads up. It might be a bit silly, but with so much change going on around this area it's nice to have some familiar old visual anchors.
An Ever-Changing Gateway to Davie Village – Merrick’s Newest Tower Embraces Vancouver’s Legacy of Urban Communities and Environmental Leadership
1157 Burrard
Almost 50 years ago, Vancouver’s South False Creek was free-falling into decay due to a massive fire that had decimated the industries of the area. Various levels of government embraced a new form of urban design and created a plan that not only led to the rebirth of urban living in Vancouver, but across the world. Instrumental in that process was the now retired, at least officially, Paul Merrick, whose influence and values are still felt in Merrick Architecture’s new gateway to the West End.
As Darren had arrived to the event a few minutes before me, I was still picking at a tray of fruit when he came over and told me I had to see the design of the public realm. I immediately saw why he was so excited. Even though the Davie Street Community Garden’s time was at an end, its spirit would live on through several green roofs, large restaurant patio spaces, and an environmentally friendly plaza. We really love that it incorporates a tidal pool to help store rain water. This fully aligns with Vancouver’s new Rain City Strategy, and is a great a way to bring water into Downtown.
Here's the lovely old building that is still on the site where the 1485 Davie project is proposed.
Feb.28 '18, my pics
The development application sign has new information now (higher number of market strata dwellings, parking levels and parking spaces). I can't see any difference in the rendering, though. First pic below is the new sign, second pic is the old.
Re West End Plan - I would like to see more space like this, build them in in new developments or carve them out of underused space, such as the building my friend lives in just off davie and thurlow, the underground parking sits empty cause most of the renters don't have cars. I saw many little places tucked away in buildings all over Melbourne and Sydney, This is in Sydney, a little Japanese restaurant, small and cosy. Above it was a wood fire pizza place and a little bar/cafe casual little place. In a residential area.
This was in Melbourne, in an undeveloped area on the street they had some little shops that were just going to be there until the space got redeveloped I imagine. These could work in some areas around the downtown, Broadway, Main Street, Commercial drive etc. Like that spot at commerical and 12th that was a rat infested community garden which was torn down, something like this would be a good use for that spot.
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