2018 Ottawa Municipal Election

waterloowarrior · #1 Posted **Jul 24, 2018, 10:19 PM**

Deadline is Friday 2PM to register

https://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/your-...ipal-elections

Looks like Jim Watson is a shoo-in for mayor so far....

12 people running in Orleans but only Tim Tierney so far in Beacon Hill-Cyrville and Michael Qaqish in Gloucester-South Nepean

Proof Sheet · #2 Posted **Jul 24, 2018, 10:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Deadline is Friday 2PM to register

https://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/your-...ipal-elections

Looks like Jim Watson is a shoo-in for mayor so far....

12 people running in Orleans but only Tim Tierney so far in Beacon Hill-Cyrville and Michael Qaqish in Gloucester-South Nepean

Ugh on all 3 levels. Not a fan of any of those.

zzptichka · #3 Posted **Jul 24, 2018, 11:22 PM**

Rick Chiarelli hasn't registered yet. Wonder if he's holding out till last minute to water down opposition votes by encouraging more candidates to register.
Wouldn't mind to see him gone.

waterloowarrior · #4 Posted **Jul 25, 2018, 12:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by zzptichka

Rick Chiarelli hasn't registered yet. Wonder if he's holding out till last minute to water down opposition votes by encouraging more candidates to register.
Wouldn't mind to see him gone.

The Sun had an article about that yesterday
https://ottawasun.com/opinion/column...-fall-election

One of the mayor's former advisors is running in that ward
https://kennery.ca/about/

Looked at the bios of the current members of Council...almost 2/3rds have a political or public service background. But I'm surprised we don't have more involvement from former MPs or MPPs, compared to the GTA where the mayors of Toronto, Vaughan, Mississauga, Brampton, and major candidates for 2018 in Peel, York, Waterloo and probably several other municipalities are former federal or provincial politicians.

Businessperson: Harder, El-Chantiry, Qadri
High tech: Taylor, Tierney, Darouze
Military: Mitic
Professional: Elgi (lawyer), Cloutier (Accountant)
Bureaucrat/NGO: Nussbaum, Leiper, Brockington, Chernushenko, Hubley
Teacher: Wilkinson
Political: McKenney, Watson, Chiarelli, Deans, Monette, Blais, Qaqish
Sports: Fleury, Moffatt

Proof Sheet · #5 Posted **Jul 25, 2018, 1:21 AM**

I wouldn't be upset if Chiarelli packed it in. I've lived in Ottawa just over 23 years and Chiarelli has been on Council since then and potentially before that. He has a background as a lawyer I believe. Many in Bells Corners are tired of his style of being the Councillor.

If a councillor says he is going to run for 1 or 2 terms etc and then changes his or her mind as 'the people have spoken', 'people are begging me to run again as there is so much unfinished business' etc they have lost my vote.

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

The Sun had an article about that yesterday
https://ottawasun.com/opinion/column...-fall-election

One of the mayor's former advisors is running in that ward
https://kennery.ca/about/

Looked at the bios of the current members of Council...almost 2/3rds have a political or public service background. But I'm surprised we don't have more involvement from former MPs or MPPs, compared to the GTA where the mayors of Toronto, Vaughan, Mississauga, Brampton, and major candidates for 2018 in Peel, York, Waterloo and probably several other municipalities are former federal or provincial politicians.

Businessperson: Harder, El-Chantiry, Qadri
High tech: Taylor, Tierney, Darouze
Military: Mitic
Professional: Elgi (lawyer), Cloutier (Accountant)
Bureaucrat/NGO: Nussbaum, Leiper, Brockington, Chernushenko, Hubley
Teacher: Wilkinson
Political: McKenney, Watson, Chiarelli, Deans, Monette, Blais, Qaqish
Sports: Fleury, Moffatt

zzptichka · #6 Posted **Jul 25, 2018, 2:05 PM**

Another possibility is Rick contemplating running for Mayor. Makes sense given his recent opposition to Watson in Council.

Who do you think has a chance in Bay ward?

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Erica Dath 2018/07/13 No 613-866-3953 [email protected] (link sends e-mail)
www.facebook.com/dathforbayward (link is external)

Don Dransfield 2018/05/11 Yes 613-820-1845 [email protected] (link sends e-mail)
www.dondransfield.ca (link is external)

Theresa Kavanagh 2018/05/01 Yes 613-314-8358 [email protected] (link sends e-mail) www.theresakavanagh.com (link is external)

Marc Lugert 2018/07/19 Yes

Tricia Ross 2018/05/03 Yes [email protected] (link sends e-mail) www.triciaross.nationbuilder.com (link is external)

Only Kavanagh rings the bell for me as a school board trustee and Alex Cullen's spouse. Should be fun if she wins in Watson's ward.

J.OT13 · #7 Posted **Jul 25, 2018, 3:44 PM**

Rick Chiarelli as Mayor. What would change?

In today's Citizen, Randall Denley suggest it might be time Ottawa consider political parties, siting Montreal and Vancouver as the two major Canadian cities with such a system. Provincial laws in Ontario however, don't allow municipal parties to form in the same sense as the aforementioned cities

waterloowarrior · #8 Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 3:14 PM**

16 candidates in Orleans now... wow.

waterloowarrior · #9 Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 4:24 PM**

Clive Doucet running for Mayor - will at least make it more interesting.

In the 2010 election, Watson got 49%, O'Brien 24%, Doucet 15%,

J.OT13 · #10 Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 5:25 PM**

Rick Chiarelli registered for College yesterday. Too bad. 3 way race would have been interesting.

McC · #11 Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 7:09 PM**

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Conservative sources said legislation will be tabled as early as Monday to cut Toronto council from a planned 47 councillors to 25, and ward boundaries would match federal and provincial ridings.

https://www.thestar.com/news/queensp...urces-say.html
They've already said we don't need to worry, since Ottawa is a nice town, but not a real city like Toronto (See for example: https://twitter.com/davidreevely/sta...62751708762112). But still, if this model *was* to be applied to Ottawa, we'd have what 8 Councillors and the Mayor for a 9-seat city council? (Orleans or Carleton would have to absorb the western part of Glegarry-Prescott-Russell that sits within the municipal borders).

J.OT13 · #12 Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 7:40 PM**

So they plan on adapting this in Toronto as of the October election? I think Ford is rigging the Toronto system to his advantage for a return to municipal politics in 2022.

Ottawa could afford to go down to maybe 16, which would be more in line with Calgary and Edmonton.

Uhuniau · #13 Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 8:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

So they plan on adapting this in Toronto as of the October election? I think Ford is rigging the Toronto system to his advantage for a return to municipal politics in 2022.

Ottawa could afford to go down to maybe 16, which would be more in line with Calgary and Edmonton.

What would be the purpose or benefit?

J.OT13 · #14 Posted **Jul 29, 2018, 12:34 PM**

Doug Ford doesn't want to be Premier of Ontario. He wants to be Mayor of Toronto. He was planning on running for mayor until the post for PC Leader opened up. I believe that if the PCs would have lost the Provincial election Doug would have quit to try for mayor this year.

He probably saw an opportunity to run Toronto from the Premier's seat at Queen's Park. Remembering the chaos that was his brother's tenure, Doug might have seen an opportunity to reduce council to make it easier to control, should he ever try a run for mayor again in the future.

It might also be about squashing his past enemies.

Of note: I believe that reducing the number of seats has its merits. Toronto's council is ridiculously huge and Ottawa, though not in Ford's plans cause he only gives a shit about Toronto, should also be reduced. But the way he's doing this, the last day to sign up for the election, is wrong on so many levels. This is dictator level shit. Cities should be asked politely to take a few years to revisit the wards, maybe even set a target (say 25% reduction, NOT %50) and implement the changes in 2022. That way, existing Councillors would have time to reflect on their future and have he chance to bow out gracefully instead of what will turn out to be a death-match between competing incumbents.

Truenorth00 · #15 Posted **Jul 30, 2018, 6:46 AM**

The size of council is entirely dependent on what people think councillors should be doing and what level of representation is desired. Larger cities will use a strong-mayor system with an elected chief executive and a council that acts as a legislative body, often with political parties.

In Toronto with 2.5 million residents? That's probably appropriate. In Ottawa, on the way to a million? Debatable. But also inevitable with growth.

Uhuniau · #16 Posted **Jul 30, 2018, 1:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

Of note: I believe that reducing the number of seats has its merits. Toronto's council is ridiculously huge and Ottawa, though not in Ford's plans cause he only gives a shit about Toronto, should also be reduced. But the way he's doing this, the last day to sign up for the election, is wrong on so many levels. This is dictator level shit. Cities should be asked politely to take a few years to revisit the wards, maybe even set a target (say 25% reduction, NOT %50) and implement the changes in 2022. That way, existing Councillors would have time to reflect on their future and have he chance to bow out gracefully instead of what will turn out to be a death-match between competing incumbents.

Again, what is the inherent benefit of a smaller council?

I know the frothing right wing (not you) holds it to be an article of faith that smaller council = better (i.e., somehow saves money), but that's not what research bears out at all.

As is the case with the smaller-legislature movement that crops up in various provinces from time to time, if saving costs is the goal, the solution is simple: reduce the pay and perks of the elected officials.

J.OT13 · #17 Posted **Jul 30, 2018, 3:35 PM**

The benefit in general? I thought you meant from Ford's perceptive.

Bigger council can mean more chaos, more long, dragging pointless debate. You look at transit planning in Toronto, they continuously change the plans and change the game and end up with multi-billion dollar disasters that serve low-density suburbs and completely ignore the over-capacity and undeserved downtown. Everyone is looking out for their little corner of the city (and themselves).

With a smaller council, you might end up with people who have more of a city-wide view. It's also easier to negotiate with a few than it is with a class-room of self-involved idiots.

rocketphish · #18 Posted **Jul 30, 2018, 5:19 PM**

Mayoral candidate Clive Doucet lays out initial vision for Ottawa
Urban development top of mind as Doucet begins mayoral race

Laura Osman · CBC News
Posted: Jul 30, 2018 11:56 AM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago

Development plans are top of mind for Clive Doucet as he begins to craft a different vision for the city than the one being offered by Jim Watson.

Doucet added his name to the ballot on the last day of nominations, after he realised no one else was planning to oppose the incumbent mayor.

"It's not really about who is the mayor, it's what kind of city do you want?" Doucet told host Stu Mills on CBC Radio's Ottawa Morning Monday.

Doucet took a dig at Watson's development-friendly record, calling him a "traditional mayor" and highlighting the recent approval of a 65-storey tower at 900 Albert St..

The tower application was at odds with an official plan endorsed by the community, but the mayor encouraged councillors to approve it.

Doucet said he'll handle things differently, if he becomes mayor.

"We're going to have a city that respects community development plans, that respects its own zoning, and I think that will change the way we grow our city," he said.

Doucet faced off against Watson, Larry O'Brien and Andrew Haydon in 2010, and lost with only 15 per cent of the vote. He said, this time, it's "mano a mano."

Watson was not available for comment because he is on vacation.

One of the major hurdles Doucet will have to overcome is his lackluster relationship with the suburban wards.

He served as Capital ward councillor for more than a decade between 1997 and 2010, and said at the time his job was to "defend the core."

During Monday's Ottawa Morning interview, Doucet reiterated that, saying "I did it as vigorously and as passionately as I could."

Many people took that to mean he did not care about the suburban wards, but he insists that is not the case.

"If I was mayor, I would defend the suburbs and want the best for them — the same way I do for the city centre," he said.

Watson, on the other hand, has a strong relationship with the city's incumbent councillors in the suburbs.

As for specific plans for the city, Doucet and Watson are both still a few weeks away from releasing their platforms.

There's still plenty of time for the candidates to hone their messages before Ottawa goes to the polls on Oct. 22.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...ment-1.4766621

YOWflier · #19 Posted **Jul 30, 2018, 5:23 PM**

Ah yes, Clive, an admitted last-minute entrant because he lost a "challenge" with his friend the night before the registration deadline.

rocketphish · #20 Posted **Jul 30, 2018, 5:32 PM**

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Ah yes, Clive, an admitted last-minute entrant because he lost a "challenge" with his friend the night before the registration deadline.

I heard that too... and it just served to discredit his entire platform, as he laid it out in the interview. Maybe he'll lose at strip-poker one night and sell the Prince of Wales Bridge to Moose ;-)