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[bnk]

I find it hard to believe 3 full pages are on county music in a Chicago centric thread.

Someone posted several [ two ]Chicagoland county festivals recently .

They left of a big one that is County Thunder in Twin Lakes Wisconsin that draws from a large region.


One funny tidbit about County Thunder some young girl was struck by lighting.


They flew her to an Illinois Hospital. Not sure of her current condition but she was very critical at the time.


Her phone is burned out and she exploded her shoe off.

https://www.countrythunder.com/wi


400 underage drinking citations


https://www.jsonline.com/story/enter...ons/821600002/






Nothing to laugh about but this fest has been around for a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_Thunder

Country Thunder is a music festival brand that hosts several concerts in North America each year. They have operated festivals in Wisconsin and Arizona since 2009, and shows in Saskatchewan since 2005 and in Alberta since 2016

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[ChiHi]

Originally Posted by spyguy

It looks like a giant solar carport from the sky.

So I'm guessing this place will have solar this and sustainable that in it but not even one recycling bin in the whole building like every other restaurant in the city. But it's green though.....

[Mr Downtown]

What in the average restaurant is actually recyclable?

[Mikemak27]

Why does everyone get caught up on recycling? It’s the least important aspect of the green triangle R’s (1. Reduce 2. Reuse 3. Recycle). Using one reusable mug to fill up your water or coffee instead of recycling all of your disposable recyclables is infinitely more environmentally friendly.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

What in the average restaurant is actually recyclable?

Originally Posted by Mikemak27

Why does everyone get caught up on recycling? It’s the least important aspect of the green triangle R’s (1. Reduce 2. Reuse 3. Recycle). Using one reusable mug to fill up your water or coffee instead of recycling all of your disposable recyclables is infinitely more environmentally friendly.

Most restaurants use plates, glasses and utensils that are reusable for years. Nothing to recycle and as noted by Mikemak27, far better than recycling.

[ardecila]

Originally Posted by ChiHi

So I'm guessing this place will have solar this and sustainable that in it but not even one recycling bin in the whole building like every other restaurant in the city. But it's green though.....

McDonalds has committed to all-recycled packaging and recycling areas in each of its restaurants by 2025. Not that far away. If this new global flagship restaurant does not have recycling containers, I will be amazed...

I wish it was sooner, but I guess McDonalds has to figure out how to manage the problem of contaminated waste flows. No good putting out recycling bins if lazy customers just throw their barbecue sauce containers and McNuggets in there. The occasional piece of trash in a recycling flow is no big deal, but at some point it gets too expensive to sort it out later.

When Chicago had recycling dropoffs, contamination wasn't really a problem... if you took time to seek out a dropoff point, you probably were committed enough to sort your trash correctly. Now we have blue cans in every alley, which is infinitely more convenient but also infinitely more prone to contamination from lazy citizens. Garbage can overflowing? Good thing there's this empty blue can right next to it! herp derp

[left of center]

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

What in the average restaurant is actually recyclable?

Tons and tons of cardboard. Literally all food products going into any restaurant, even a fast food place like McDonald's, is going to come packed in cardboard. Everything from all the fresh vegetables to frozen fries and hamburger patties. And that's not even including all the other customer packaging, such as burger and french fry serving containers, cups, straws, lids, etc.

[ardecila]

Originally Posted by bnk

Someone posted several [ two ]Chicagoland county festivals recently .

They left of a big one that is County Thunder in Twin Lakes Wisconsin that draws from a large region.

I'm well aware of Country Thunder, my girlfriend's friend group all goes every year while she prefers Pitchfork and Lolla.

I didn't mention it because it was secondary to my point that there are two significant country festivals in (urban) Chicago city limits. You can see skyscrapers from both of them and ride a CTA bus to the gate. This idea that country music fans don't live in the city is hogwash.

But yes, Country Thunder now seems to be a reason for city girls to wear cowboy boots and get muddy, far more than it is a festival for rural dwellers to enjoy their favorite music. Country Thunder even followed the exodus of cold-hating white Chicagoans to launch a sister festival in Arizona.

[Mr Downtown]

And who, in the US, is actually recycling post-consumer paperboard food containers?

[emathias]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Not so fast.
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I can honestly tell you that from the youngest years of my life when I became interested in music, it was the sound itself of [contemporary] country music that I found repulsive - the over the top drawl, the absurd masculinity, the party-on hillbilly lyrics - the culture attached to it I didn't fully grasp until later. I have since grown to greatly enjoy and appreciate older country music and roots music from bluegrass to Patsy to Willie and so forth (mostly the sad bastard stuff), but still have to absorb it in smaller doses as it is far from my favorite genre. Another country music "reinforcer" is our armed forces. Because the military draws a high % of recruits from the rural parts (and Red) parts of our country, there seems to be a strong proud hick/country element and that transfers to many country music fans. As a personal note that I still am a bit sore about, I had a good high school friend who joined the army after Sept 11. He went in loving underground alt rock/punk and 1960's soul/R&B and came out a country fan. I don't fully understand how such a thing happens but I suspect peer influence had a hell of a lot to do with it. Due to what I presume are stress and boredom, military people seem to like to listen to shallow good times music and much of modern country fits that bill.

Personally, I don't like some of the lyrics, like the recent "Whisky Lullaby," about a couple that divorces, drinks themselves to death, and reunite in the afterlife. It's just beyond depressing to listen to and actually made me angry the first time I heard it.

[10023]

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

And who, in the US, is actually recycling post-consumer paperboard food containers?

Why not? It’s all recyclable.

But it’s plastic that’s the problem, not cardboard (which biodegrades).

Straws are a good one for the “reduce” part of the triangle. No one really needs a straw and they shouldn’t be used. I think Starbucks is planning to get rid of plastic straws and McDonald’s should follow suit, along with the plastic lids for cups. Just don’t fill your half gallon soda to the brim, you fat fuck.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by 10023

No one really needs a straw and they shouldn’t be used.

That is bullshit. Many disabled people actually need them to just drink anything. Plastic straws were first introduced at hospitals for the use by certain disabled and injured peoples. Eventually some people caught on and thought it would be great for the general public.

You might want to actually review what you know before blindly speaking and fucking over a group of people

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ity-community/

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-43485362

[west-town-brad]

Originally Posted by marothisu

That is bullshit. Many disabled people actually need them to just drink anything. Plastic straws were first introduced at hospitals for the use by certain disabled and injured peoples. Eventually some people caught on and thought it would be great for the general public.

You might want to actually review what you know before blindly speaking and fucking over a group of people

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ity-community/

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-43485362

Yes, we have plastic straws at every.single.restaurant.on.the.planet because we all care so much about the handicaps....

[the urban politician]

It would make more sense to simply provide straws (like any other medical supply) to the disabled than to force every single chain restaurant on Earth to carry them.

Anyhow, let’s stop talking about straws, everyone!

[ChiHi]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

Most restaurants use plates, glasses and utensils that are reusable for years. Nothing to recycle and as noted by Mikemak27, far better than recycling.

Bottles, cans, plastic cups. I know straws are the cool new trend but what the hell is the point in banning a straw when a restaurant doesn't doesn't even offer to recycle the damn cup in comes in. How about a bar or restaurant that recycles bottles and cans? I believe they are supposed to but like many other laws of the city, it's rarely if ever actually enforced.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by ChiHi

Bottles, cans, plastic cups. I know straws are the cool new trend but what the hell is the point in banning a straw when a restaurant doesn't doesn't even offer to recycle the damn cup in comes in. How about a bar or restaurant that recycles bottles and cans? I believe they are supposed to but like many other laws of the city, it's rarely if ever actually enforced.

Plastic cups? What restaurant has plastic cups? And a wine/beer/water bottles are hardly an issue.

I'm fine with eliminating straws at restaurants. I hate them anyway.

[JK47]

Originally Posted by 10023

But it’s plastic that’s the problem, not cardboard (which biodegrades).

Cardboard and paper products in general are not biodegradable unless you litter. Studies in landfills have uncovered paper bags that have been intact for decades and it could take hundreds of years for a paper bag to break down (paper needs oxygen to degrade which isn't possible in a landfill). In fact they're worse than plastic since paper bags are heavier and take up more space in landfills than plastic bags.

No one really needs a straw and they shouldn’t be used.

People with disabilities often need straws. Young children also need straws as well.

[the urban politician]

Stop talking about this please

[Busy Bee]

Florida Georgia Line...

Go!

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by west-town-brad

Yes, we have plastic straws at every.single.restaurant.on.the.planet because we all care so much about the handicaps....

No, that's not what I meant. Banning these things without understanding there's an actual need is frivolous. I should have maybe pointed out that I personally believe you could get rid of a lot of them, but there is a need for some people that is more medical, even at a restaurant. There is a compromise somewhere in between. I don't agree with either side in this debate being keep all of them or get rid of all of them. Either side is short sighted.

But I agree this is dumb to talk about here. But people need to be more educated instead of blindly hopping on any bandwagon.