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Old Posted Jul 8, 2018, 2:50 PM
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yyyyes !!!!!

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I didn't mean demolish the old courthouse (current gallery)! I meant keep it as a gallery and refurbish the Erickson courthouse as an extension of a new, much larger gallery. Then use the Larwill Park site for a new courthouse. Not realistic of course, but I love the location of the current gallery and love the interaction between the 2 courthouses and the public space that connects them. Rattenbury and Erickson, it's truly the heart of the city, in my opinion.
Hey, I love your idea!! Hope it catches on in the mind of the public, starting right here on SSP !!
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2018, 6:11 PM
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I didn't mean demolish the old courthouse (current gallery)! I meant keep it as a gallery and refurbish the Erickson courthouse as an extension of a new, much larger gallery. Then use the Larwill Park site for a new courthouse. Not realistic of course, but I love the location of the current gallery and love the interaction between the 2 courthouses and the public space that connects them. Rattenbury and Erickson, it's truly the heart of the city, in my opinion.
well that's good then because demolishing that building would be terrible.

the funny thing is, the most interesting and heart/centre of the city is nothing more than 2 generations of Courthouses. when trying to create a cultural centre it fizzles and isn't great.

Rattenbury & Erickson, the 2 greatest architects to have worked in BC. i always wondered what Erickson would have come up with for the Vancouver Art Gallery.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2018, 7:41 PM
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well that's good then because demolishing that building would be terrible.....


Rattenbury & Erickson, the 2 greatest architects to have worked in BC. i always wondered what Erickson would have come up with for the Vancouver Art Gallery.
Something rather austere and "Scandinavian"-looking I"m sure (Erickson was of Swedish origin, and it rather shows in some of his work).
At any rate, something preferable to the bamboo box that they're pushing on us - but that's just my personal taste, of course.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2018, 6:08 PM
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Seriously.

How is it remotely possible that bamboo box is going to cost $350 to build, EXCLUDING land costs?

EDIT: Or does this also include cost to build the two office towers?
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2018, 6:21 PM
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I didn't mean demolish the old courthouse (current gallery)! I meant keep it as a gallery and refurbish the Erickson courthouse as an extension of a new, much larger gallery. Then use the Larwill Park site for a new courthouse. Not realistic of course, but I love the location of the current gallery and love the interaction between the 2 courthouses and the public space that connects them. Rattenbury and Erickson, it's truly the heart of the city, in my opinion.
Interesting idea, but wouldn't it face a lot of the same problems as the old courthouse, too many broken up spaces? The UV from that large glass roof wouldn't be that friendly to artwork but I guess you could treat it or make it a restaurant space.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2018, 8:04 PM
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I'm unclear from recent posts: whatever happened to the bid process that the city put out for the commercial portion of the Larwill block?
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2018, 9:02 PM
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Seriously.

How is it remotely possible that bamboo box is going to cost $350 to build, EXCLUDING land costs?

EDIT: Or does this also include cost to build the two office towers?
I keep wondering about that too. 3-year-olds at a daycare build better-looking block structures than what is being proposed.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2018, 10:03 PM
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http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-art-gallery-bc-government-funding-july-2018

BC government is still committed to funding new Vancouver Art Gallery despite reports of cancellation

Kenneth Chan Jul 06, 2018
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2018, 12:38 AM
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...i do agree that it should go back to it's original courthouse function and connect to the Erickson courthouse.
From what I hear, that's what the BC Court of Appeal wants if the Art gallery leaves.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2018, 12:54 AM
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From what I hear, that's what the BC Court of Appeal wants if the Art gallery leaves.
yeah, i have heard that as well. the Annex portion still has all of its original courtrooms intact apparently. but that is an internet fact so .
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2019, 7:10 PM
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From this weekend's Globe & Mail. Vancouver continues to prove itself as not a very cultural city, in a country that probably places the least value on arts & culture out of its G7 peers.

Future of a new Vancouver Art Gallery building uncertain amid lack of private funding

...One of the chief problems with the current location, a renovated courthouse, is its size. It’s simply too small. So, back to Guo Pei, why give up the entire first floor – maybe a quarter of the gallery – for a show about fashion, when exhibition space is so limited?

“I think the idea of showing a diverse range of visual culture is our priority, and fashion [is] part of that,” says Rochelle Steiner, the gallery’s chief curator and associate director.

“And Guo Pei just seemed so fitting to us, not just because of where she’s from, but because of her practice,” says Steiner, who joined the gallery this year.

The exhibition seems to appeal to a wider demographic, including a younger audience. Steiner says there has been more demand for tours in Mandarin and the show has seen more traffic on social media, including the Chinese-language platform WeChat. The wall labels – the few that are there (I would have appreciated more individual information about each garment) – are in English and Chinese.

I ask Steiner whether the show is perhaps part of an effort to reach out to the Lower Mainland’s significant Asian population – and potential donor base – as the VAG works to raise money for the new building.

Steiner says no, that programming endeavours are separate from development efforts...

.....the city has ordered the VAG to meet certain conditions by Dec. 31, 2019 – the second extension it has given the gallery. The original conditions included raising $100-million from the federal government and $50-million from the province (in addition to the $50-million the former BC Liberal government granted the project in 2008). The other $150-million is supposed to come from the private sector. The VAG has raised about $45-million in private funds to date.....

...“The site won’t necessarily be there forever. So there’s a terrific time urgency on things,” VAG board member Phil Lind told me recently.

Lind, a Rogers broadcasting executive, was in town to speak about his recently published memoir to the Canadian Club.

He is a passionate contemporary art collector; his Toronto home is filled with it. Lind joined the VAG board of trustees specifically because of the new gallery project, he told me. But during our interview, he didn’t sound overly optimistic. He says the VAG has not yet raised enough private money.

“I think part of it is that the givers in Vancouver haven’t been sufficiently enticed at the moment,” Lind says.

B.C. Minister of Tourism, Arts and Culture Lisa Beare told the VAG board last December that the government would consider the gallery’s additional $50-million funding request based on its progress raising private funds.

The hope had been that revealing an exciting design would provoke donations. But Swiss-based architects Herzog & de Meuron’s conceptual design – stacked boxes with a wood exterior – received mixed reviews. (The Globe and Mail’s architecture critic, Alex Bozikovic, loved it.)

“It may not be my cup of tea,” Lind says of the design, “but it is distinctive. … If it gets built, it will be a knockout.” It will attract more visitors to the gallery and add to Vancouver’s overall tourist appeal, he adds.

“Is the design your cup of tea?" I ask him.

“I think it’s okay. I think it’s fine,” he says.

When I ask if he thinks the project will be built, Lind says he really doesn’t know...


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/art...gallery-building-uncertain-amid-lack-of/
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2019, 8:49 PM
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The Ferrari to philanthropist ratio in Vancouver is telling.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2019, 9:23 PM
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From this weekend's Globe & Mail. Vancouver continues to prove itself as not a very cultural city, in a country that probably places the least value on arts & culture out of its G7 peers.
Goes to show how much money from the other side of the Pacific Ocean is still very much needed here, despite the animosity for those rich folks coming from there. Even culture has to be funded from abroad. Hmmm.


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The Ferrari to philanthropist ratio in Vancouver is telling.
We're glad you have done your part, thank you.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2019, 10:01 PM
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Goes to show how much money from the other side of the Pacific Ocean is still very much needed here, despite the animosity for those rich folks coming from there. Even culture has to be funded from abroad. Hmmm. ..
LOL, csbvan's post apparently went right over your head.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2019, 12:37 AM
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LOL, csbvan's post apparently went right over your head.
Not really. I'm just glad this monstrosity won't be built.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2019, 12:43 AM
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The Ferrari to philanthropist ratio in Vancouver is telling.
haha nice
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2019, 12:58 AM
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Not really. I'm just glad this monstrosity won't be built.
On this we agree, though it is sad that a city apparently awash in so much money cannot afford philanthropy.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2019, 1:47 AM
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Probably just a different type of philanthropy.
There seem to be a lot of donations to hospitals and universities.

Also agree with the "at least it won't be built" sentiment.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2019, 3:33 AM
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I didn't donate to the cause, but I was looking forward to this getting built (doesn't look promising). I think this is a building that would look much better in real life. At the very least it is a huge diversion from the norm in Vancouver. Something we desperately need.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2019, 5:50 AM
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Wasn't the original proposal to develop a third of the site as office space? It's probably time to revisit that plan.
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