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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 4:52 PM
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Wrong - companies don't move their HQ to influence government, they hire lobbyist. If Amazon tries to confront the government/Donald Trump on directly they risk a boycott of 40%+ of their US customer base. The political risk associated with moving HQ2 to NOVA is the biggest reason I believe Amazon is not going to select any of the cities in the DC Metro.
Amazon wants the most educated work force it can find. That is the DC region. ATL is probably the 4th choice after Boston, the Triangle, and the DC region. Amazon hires lobbyists, but when you can have the best of all worlds, having employees rubbing shoulders with the friends and family members of law makers while also getting the most talented workers in America...its a win. Cost of living does not matter to billionaires or CFOs or their Board of Directors.
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 5:01 PM
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Amazon wants the most educated work force it can find. That is the DC region. ATL is probably the 4th choice after Boston, the Triangle, and the DC region. Amazon hires lobbyists, but when you can have the best of all worlds, having employees rubbing shoulders with the friends and family members of law makers while also getting the most talented workers in America...its a win. Cost of living does not matter to billionaires or CFOs or their Board of Directors.
With respect to tech talent, Amazon's average employee is less than 30 years old. Therefore they are extremely mobile. So I don't believe this makes NOVA any more favorable than other top tier tech metros. Lastly, if you review the posts on this sub-forum from the past week, it looks very likely Amazon is coming to Atlanta.
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 5:33 PM
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With respect to tech talent, Amazon's average employee is less than 30 years old. Therefore they are extremely mobile. So I don't believe this makes NOVA any more favorable than other top tier tech metros. Lastly, if you review the posts on this sub-forum from the past week, it looks very likely Amazon is coming to Atlanta.
I will look at the sub forum, but I truly believe Amazon made the decision a year ago.
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 6:11 PM
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Ugh the guesses and speculation is so annoying. In reality no one really knows shit.
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 6:18 PM
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Ugh the guesses and speculation is so annoying. In reality no one really knows shit.
True, except Amazon.

That said, there isn't much else to talk about other than HQ2 speculation.
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 8:28 PM
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 8:32 PM
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Seen what, exactly?
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 8:40 PM
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Seen what, exactly?
You can't see it??? It is a voters poll on where Amazon could locate, Atl is obliterating all of the other cities>>
Don't play dumb with me...

View Poll Results: HQ2 location?
Atlanta, GA 92 20.18%
Austin, TX 33 7.24%
Boston, MA 40 8.77%
Chicago, IL 71 15.57%
Columbus, OH 23 5.04%
Dallas, TX 39 8.55%
Denver, CO 22 4.82%
Indianapolis, IN 26 5.70%
Los Angeles, CA 8 1.75%
Miami, FL 12 2.63%
Montgomery County, MD 21 4.61%
Nashville, TN 18 3.95%
Newark, NJ 15 3.29%
New York, NY 16 3.51%
Northern Virginia 48 10.53%
Philadelphia, PA 41 8.99%
Pittsburgh, PA 40 8.77%
Raleigh, N.C. 32 7.02%
Toronto, ON 21 4.61%
Washington, D.C. 57 12.50%
Other (Specify) 6 1.32%


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/general-u...-amazon-hq2-where-189.html#ixzz5KPme162J
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 8:49 PM
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You can't see it??? It is a voters poll on where Amazon could locate, Atl is obliterating all of the other cities>>
Don't play dumb with me...

View Poll Results: HQ2 location?
Atlanta, GA 92 20.18%
Austin, TX 33 7.24%
Boston, MA 40 8.77%
Chicago, IL 71 15.57%
Columbus, OH 23 5.04%
Dallas, TX 39 8.55%
Denver, CO 22 4.82%
Indianapolis, IN 26 5.70%
Los Angeles, CA 8 1.75%
Miami, FL 12 2.63%
Montgomery County, MD 21 4.61%
Nashville, TN 18 3.95%
Newark, NJ 15 3.29%
New York, NY 16 3.51%
Northern Virginia 48 10.53%
Philadelphia, PA 41 8.99%
Pittsburgh, PA 40 8.77%
Raleigh, N.C. 32 7.02%
Toronto, ON 21 4.61%
Washington, D.C. 57 12.50%
Other (Specify) 6 1.32%


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/general-u...-amazon-hq2-where-189.html#ixzz5KPme162J
You could have been talking about anything. It's a thread with nearly 200 pages and 2,000 posts. We're not mind readers.

And yes, speaking for myself, I saw that poll months ago.
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 8:56 PM
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It takes them almost a year to find a location for HQ2?
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 9:57 PM
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You could have been talking about anything. It's a thread with nearly 200 pages and 2,000 posts. We're not mind readers.

And yes, speaking for myself, I saw that poll months ago.
You could have said so in the first place without acting like an ass..THE POLL
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2018, 10:00 PM
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You could have said so in the first place...
I did.

How else would you rather I said "Seen what, exactly?"
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2018, 3:06 AM
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You could have said so in the first place without acting like an ass..THE POLL
bigstick, I'm very worried about your mental health. As odd as it sounds, I don't think this forum is good for you. Between this meltdown and the private message you sent me about how you could buy and sell my condo 40 times over, maybe you could use all of that money to do something that would make you happy instead of so grumpy?
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2018, 3:22 AM
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My read of the linked poll is DC area #1, Atlanta #2, Chicago #3. Philly #4, Boston/Pittsburgh #5 (tie)
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2018, 3:38 AM
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My read of the linked poll is DC area #1, Atlanta #2, Chicago #3. Philly #4, Boston/Pittsburgh #5 (tie)
Yeah if you add up Washington D.C. and Northern Virginia, it's beats out Atlanta in that City-data poll, but when did we start believing a random city-data poll was going to determine who gets Amazon HQ2?
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2018, 5:43 AM
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City data polls are awful.

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Old Posted Jul 6, 2018, 2:47 PM
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Yes, the City-Data forum responses and comments may be peculiar at times (and a little juvenile) , but doesn’t the Poll still represent a somewhat diversified group from various places around the country that are still casting a vote.

These are people who probably know a little more about municipal data than your “average Joe” on the street. So, even though the poll may not find much merit with those who count and it's probably not on Jeff Bezos’ desk at Amazon, I wouldn’t out-right dismiss what the poll is saying.

Plus, it’s nice to see what other people think about our city & the fact that the guys (& girls) on City-Data can come together in agreement is rather cool.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2018, 3:15 PM
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Below is a summary of all the recent data points I believe unequivocally point to Atlanta being selected as the city to host Amazon's HQ2. The good news is I think this shit show should be wrapped up sometime in the next two months. Exiting times!
1. CIM Group on January 25, 2018 went before the Atlanta Zoning Board and presented their plan for the 27 acre Gulch site that included 9 Million sqft of office, 1500 hotel rooms, 1000 apartment and 2 Million sqft of commercial space. Although CIM Group didn't specifically state this was for Amazon it doesn't take a rocket scientist to connect the dots.
Source: https://www.myajc.com/business/designers...wn-atlanta-gulch/PVZOfNnq3kt5kZJFnheuGL/

2. March 30, 2018 Amazon HQ2 selection committee views sites in Midtown and the Gulch
Source: https://www.ajc.com/business/amazon-tour...dquarters-search/ymLFUn1Dj0hBAK6zF9yehJ/

3. (June 7th, 2018) Text messages and emails obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution show Bottoms (Atlanta's Mayor) engaged in secret talks with Atlanta Public Schools to end the Eastside Tax Allocation District (TAD) to win APS’ support for lucrative incentives for the Gulch project.
Source: https://www.myajc.com/news/local/texts-s...gulch-incentives/KjTjK3JrdBqNgA4Hr8HlnO/

4. CoA issues Request for bids for 9.5 acres of city owned Gulch property. Bids are due July 26th, 2018. Also all bids must include a non-refundable check equal to 5% of the bid price. CoA to publicly announce winning bidder in approximately 2 months.
Source: http://www.cbs46.com/story/38567329/gulch-sets-deadline-for-bids
The Bottom Line: the CoA absolutely would not sell the Gulch property at this juncture unless they had conversations with Amazon and were told Atlanta is either the city they selected or Atlanta is a finalist. Conversely there is no way CIM Group would bid on the Gulch property unless they had conversations with Amazon and have legally binding documents with Amazon outlining their HQ2 development plans. Again, if CIM Group presents a bid they cannot withdrawal their bid after the CoA announces the winner. Therefore CIM Group is financially on the hook. Although I believe CIM Group/Hawks would go forward with a mixed-use entertainment development without Amazon coming to Atlanta, there would be zero reason for them to make a commitment by submitting a bid July 26th with the Amazon decision hanging out there - unless they know something the public doesn't.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2018, 5:08 PM
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The Mayor's op-ed in the AJC today:
https://www.myajc.com/news/opinion/opini...r6wGJ/amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Amazon win wouldn’t hurt city’s efforts on afford
By Keisha Lance Bottoms

Atlanta is unique among the cities listed as finalists for Amazon’s HQ2.

For starters, we have the busiest airport in the world, the economic engine of the region that would dovetail nicely with Amazon’s delivery component. But we have many other cards to play.

We are famous for our legacy of progressive diversity. We also have an unrivaled working relationship with our business community when it comes to addressing social issues and collaborating on creative investments that strengthen the cultural fabric of the city.

We have intangibles, as well, such as a cohesive spirit of purposefulness, a tradition of working in deliberative fashion to achieve our dreams.

“Atlanta,” Ambassador Andrew Young has said, “is an intentional miracle.”

There is simply nowhere else in the country where business and government come together like they do in Atlanta. You see it happening every day with the public-private effort to lift up our historic Westside communities, which are the focus of my campaign to raise $1 billion for affordability.

Every successful city has an affordable housing crisis, but it is the sincerity and value of your response that make the difference. In less than six months, nearly $40 million in public investment has been put toward that goal.

The city of Atlanta also has a robust partnership with the state of Georgia, which is consistently ranked as the top state in the country for business. We may be different in many ways, but we know we cannot achieve all we aspire to without working together.

When Atlanta succeeds, Georgia succeeds, and vice versa.

We are a Southern crossroads, both literally and metaphorically. Our railroad nexus has become a center of innovative transportation initiatives. Our diverse cultural offerings continue to make Atlanta the place to be, especially for young people who relocate here from all over the world.

We are a city of surprises. We were the scrappy underdogs who beat out everyone else to host the Centennial Olympic Games. Through that global exposure, we used the Games to leverage the transformation of downtown around Centennial Olympic Park.

Perhaps most of all, we are a city that is unafraid to try. Throughout our history, Atlanta has always taken risks to succeed against the odds. That is how we tackle some of our biggest challenges. We think big and we have never been afraid to fail.

Atlanta was a transit pioneer in the South when MARTA began. Today, we are breaking down barriers and connecting our city, not just with a $2.6 billion expansion of MARTA, but with the Atlanta Beltline, one of the most-highly regarded urban reclamation projects in the world.

At a conference in Italy recently, I spoke with mayors from around the world; every one of them knew about the Atlanta Beltline and admired our ambitious efforts to make it happen.

The connectivity the Beltline provides will bring us closer to achieving One Atlanta. It has been called our beachfront property and the “new Peachtree.” But what it most closely represents is opportunity, a golden chance to address inequity and the need for affordable workforce housing.

The vast majority of Atlanta’s workers do not live here. We need to change that by improving our inventory of affordable housing, so more residents can put down roots here. We need to give people who work in the city more reasons to care about the city. If they call Atlanta home, that will happen.

The Atlanta Beltline is an inspiration to those of us who value affordability and equitable growth. But we cannot let the promise of its original vision be obscured by the prosperity it brings.

Rising rents, escalating property taxes, infrastructure pressures — these issues are top priorities for my Administration, and we will continue to push equity and affordability every single day, through the work of the Mayor’s Office of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion, also known as One Atlanta.

Like all the competing cities, we unequivocally want the 50,000 high-paying jobs that HQ2 will bring to Atlanta, and we will celebrate an Amazon decision in our favor. We also remain undaunted by any projected impacts HQ2 might have.

The economic development, human capital and civic momentum that Amazon brings will far outweigh any negatives that might also arise.

No matter which way it goes, Amazon’s decision will not alter this city’s DNA. While HQ2 will inevitably bring changes, Atlanta will respond as we always have — by working together to fulfill our destiny as one of the world’s greatest cities.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2018, 10:07 PM
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I guess we are about due for the AJC to grace us with their semi-regular deluge of HQ2 spam.
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