The Ultimate Vancouver Rumour Thread! - Page 77

trofirhen · #**1521** Posted **May 24, 2018, 3:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by excel

I hope they don't build a tower on top of the Sinclair Centre. It should be refurbished and left as is.

That is so true! Placing a high-rise over top of it would mangle it. Doing that may work well for one single building, such as The Exchange, but not on a heritage building cluster.

officedweller · #**1522** Posted **May 24, 2018, 7:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

they should just build a 250m tower on the site in the middle, sleek and modern, and then lease out the left over office space to other companies. a middle finger to Vancouver's anti-pipeline stance.

because why not spend a little extra for a lot extra.

.. and lease to Kinder Morgan...

... but there is an underlying theme that the Provinces and Municipalities are increasingly intruding into Federal jurisdiction in all sorts of matters.
This would be a way for the Feds to reinforce their powers through paramountcy (under which Federal powers under the Constitution trump Provincial powers in area where there is overlap (because Provincial powers are ultimately delegated from the Federal government and the delegatee cannot override the delegator)))

city-dweller · #**1523** Posted **May 24, 2018, 7:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

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This would be a way for the Feds to reinforce their powers through paramountcy (under which Federal powers under the Constitution trump Provincial powers in area where there is overlap (because Provincial powers are ultimately delegated from the Federal government and the delegatee cannot override the delegator)))

We are a federation. The constitution lays out the division of powers. The federal government does not delegate provincial powers. They are laid out in the constitution. You are correct that interprovincial issues fall under federal powers but the province have their powers outright under the constitution. You may be confusing local government powers which are delegated provincial powers making them "creatures of the province". When Canada was founded we were a rural farming country where rail and land rights were the focus. Unless the feds own the land local bylaws apply. The province can always interfere with those bylaws but generally defers to the local elected councils.

That's the short answer.

officedweller · #**1524** Posted **May 24, 2018, 8:26 PM**

Yeah, I was over-simplifying with the Constitution being a "delegating" document
- but true, that it was agreed by all the provinces, so not truly a unilateral "delegation".

BodomReaper · #**1525** Posted **May 24, 2018, 8:50 PM**

Surprised at the opposition on these boards to dropping a tower on the site. It's an entire city block adjacent to the region's most significant transit hub - 4-5 storey buildings with internal courtyard space is a massive waste.

LeftCoaster · #**1526** Posted **May 25, 2018, 8:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by jlousa

Is this one actually back on the front burner? My understanding was it was a project of the previous Conservative government and was no longer in the works. Would be interesting to see the feds use the pipeline fight in this but I don't see it happening, publicworks will do what it can to keep it unpolitical, at least officially.

Definitely still active, though I can't comment on how active.

I personally think a tower can rise on this site but it will have to be done very VERY carefully.

Feathered Friend · #**1527** Posted **Jun 17, 2018, 4:59 AM**

For those wanting to guess the weekend away, we've just been made aware of a new 25 floor tower, located south of Nelson and east of Thurlow. More to come soon.

rofina · #**1528** Posted **Jun 18, 2018, 4:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

For those wanting to guess the weekend away, we've just been made aware of a new 25 floor tower, located south of Nelson and east of Thurlow. More to come soon.

25 floors.

Hmmm.

Sounds like office?

jlousa · #**1529** Posted **Jun 18, 2018, 5:35 PM**

Given the location I'm going to guess it will not be office.

scryer · #**1530** Posted **Jun 18, 2018, 5:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

For those wanting to guess the weekend away, we've just been made aware of a new 25 floor tower, located south of Nelson and east of Thurlow. More to come soon.

Thank you very much for the rumour!

At 25 floors, I think I can safely assume that it will not be iconic.

Rudiger1 · #**1531** Posted **Jun 18, 2018, 6:38 PM**

Long time lurker, first time poster.

My guess is it is 1042 and/or 1070 Nelson.

Looks like both these properties were listed on the market for redevelopment

https://macdonaldcommercial.com/docs/listings/1042-1070-nelson-street/Brochure_171010_145949.pdf

Really hope it is not Washington Court. Would be a shame to lose that building to development.

LeftCoaster · #**1532** Posted **Jun 18, 2018, 9:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by scryer

At 25 floors, I think I can safely assume that it will not be iconic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Opera_House

This isn't 25 storeys.

Icon and height are not the same thing...

osirisboy · #**1533** Posted **Jun 19, 2018, 1:24 AM**

Lol well that sure takes up a lot more square footage. But yeah you are right!

osirisboy · #**1534** Posted **Jun 19, 2018, 1:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rudiger1

Long time lurker, first time poster.

My guess is it is 1042 and/or 1070 Nelson.

Looks like both these properties were listed on the market for redevelopment

https://macdonaldcommercial.com/docs/listings/1042-1070-nelson-street/Brochure_171010_145949.pdf

Really hope it is not Washington Court. Would be a shame to lose that building to development.

you mean Caroline court. Washington court is on the other side of nelson. Woukd the city allow Caroline court to be demolished??

Rudiger1 · #**1535** Posted **Jun 19, 2018, 1:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by osirisboy

you mean Caroline court. Washington court is on the other side of nelson. Woukd the city allow Caroline court to be demolished??

Yes you are right. Washington Court is the other side of Nelson.

But either way, both Washington Court and Caroline Court are gems. Not to mention they both provide much needed dense dedicated rental space for the city.

I sure hope the City wouldn't let either of these be developed

scryer · #**1536** Posted **Jun 19, 2018, 2:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

This isn't 25 storeys.

Icon and height are not the same thing...

Have a seat. The Opera House, or anything architecturally outstanding, isn't getting built in Vancouver. That I can guarantee.

jollyburger · #**1537** Posted **Jun 19, 2018, 4:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by scryer

Have a seat. The Opera House, or anything architecturally outstanding, isn't getting built in Vancouver. That I can guarantee.

I can guarantee that no one cares about your guarantee.

scryer · #**1538** Posted **Jun 19, 2018, 5:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

I can guarantee that no one cares about your guarantee.

Go to bed, boo.

rofina · #**1539** Posted **Jun 19, 2018, 4:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by scryer

Have a seat. The Opera House, or anything architecturally outstanding, isn't getting built in Vancouver. That I can guarantee.

Vancouver House.
Kengo Kuma
Butterfly
1500 W Georgia

To name a few... along with half dozen other proposals that would be icon towers in almost any other city in the world.

But you know... Lets pretend this is 2004 and "World Class" means teal and cyan boxes in Yaletown.

ranvancan · #**1540** Posted **Jun 19, 2018, 5:00 PM**

ROFINA, your examples are NOT relative to Opera House. Nice apartment buildings, but apartment buildings nonetheless.
You see, this is exactly what I keep saying, backwards and non-progressive remarks like this, diminish the standing that Vancouver really has, or does not have I should say, in this world.
We are talking about world class public venues, Vancouver has.......count'em......zero. Oh, sorry, the Northshore mountains.