ATLANTA | Development Thread VI - Page 430

arctk2014 · #**8581** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

That's not a spire - that's a Nubbin. It's like saying my French bulldog, WT, has a tail. She doesn't have a tail, she has a nubbin.

The word you're looking for here is turret.

Neighbor · #**8582** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 5:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ant131531

That looks a lot better than before. I do wish they could maybe add a spire at the top corner just to add some sophistication.

Agreed, this is an improvement, but almost anything would be an improvement from what it was. This still looks cheap and out of place among the other historic buildings near the Fox. This could use some detailed wall ornamentation at pedestrian level like its neighbors and certainly some type of spire/crown/turret on top would certainly help as well. Just because its an improvement does not mean that it is satisfactory.

Atlanta3000 · #**8583** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 5:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by arctk2014

The word you're looking for here is turret.

Actually the technical term is finial. You are an architect arctk2014...correct?

Updated:https://www.google.com/search?q=definiti...VHulMKHTPLCykQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1409&bih=1196

Atlanta3000 · #**8584** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by patriotizzy

Ok, well with that kind of response you can make any suggestion ridiculous.

PTizzy - stick around, I am equal opportunity offender.

arctk2014 · #**8585** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 5:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Actually the technical term is finial. You are an architect arctk2014...correct?

Updated:https://www.google.com/search?q=definiti...VHulMKHTPLCykQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1409&bih=1196

While the previous example was a turret with a finial, I believe the previous commenter was inferring the use of a turret to create a visual peak in lieu of a modern spire. They weren't simply referring to the decorative finial/lightning rod on top.

https://www.amazon.com/Visual-Dictionary-Architecture-Francis-Ching/dp/0470648856

Please see below for visual reference.

FINIAL

TURRET

Atlanta3000 · #**8586** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by arctk2014

While the previous example was a turret with a finial, I believe the previous commenter was inferring the use of a turret to create a visual peak in lieu of a modern spire. They weren't simply referring to the decorative finial/lightning rod on top.

Nope - nobody except you mentioned turret and now you condescendingly proceed to school me on the subject of finials for which I correctly identified as the architectural element Ant131531 illustrated in his example.

Arctk2014 you have a line of — a mile long - chico. Fortunately I am all stocked up on bs for the week already and I am not going to have it!

MdtwnATL · #**8587** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 6:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jacobguy

https://www.atlantaga.gov/Home/Components/News/News/11609/672
New design for the new hotel besides the fox.

Still not impressed. They should be asked to try again and should not be allowed to screw up that corner. Do it right or go away.

arctk2014 · #**8588** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 6:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Nope - nobody except you mentioned turret and now you condescendingly proceed to school me on the subject of finials for which I correctly identified as the architectural element Ant131531 illustrated in his example.

Arctk2014 you have a line of — a mile long - chico. Fortunately I am all stocked up on bs for the week already and I am not going to have it!

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Originally Posted by Ant131531

I'm talking something like this:

I think it would work really well with the material they're using, but I still like the new design...very classy.

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Originally Posted by Neighbor

Agreed, this is an improvement, but almost anything would be an improvement from what it was. This still looks cheap and out of place among the other historic buildings near the Fox. This could use some detailed wall ornamentation at pedestrian level like its neighbors and certainly some type of spire/crown/turret on top would certainly help as well. Just because its an improvement does not mean that it is satisfactory.

Looks like a turret (with a finial), smells like a turret (with a finial)...must be a turret (with a finial). I'll let you (and others) be the judge on what was communicated previously as quoted above.

You sure do get worked up easily over semantics and claiming half-truths as absolute truths. But anyway, life's too short to be hostile on here.

Hope you enjoy the rest of your day. I'm sure the moderators will delete these string of comments and your irrational hostility once again.

Atlanta3000 · #**8589** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 6:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by arctk2014

Looks like a turret (with a finial), smells like a turret (with a finial)...must be a turret (with a finial). I'll let you (and others) be the judge on what was communicated previously as quoted above.

You sure do get worked up easily over semantics and claiming half-truths as absolute truths. But anyway, life's too short to be hostile on here.

Hope you enjoy the rest of your day. I'm sure the moderators will delete these string of comments and your irrational hostility once again.

Ant131531's photo example was to illustrate what he perceived to be a spire. I jokingly called it a Nubbin. Then you called it a turret and I finally responded with the correct term ...FINIAL. Don't rewrite history.

Verge · #**8590** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 6:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Spires on building less than 30 stories just look ridiculous. Maybe a glass triangle similar to the proposed Baccarat hotel in Buckhead. Actually this proposal would have been a perfect fit for this site.

Now that is truly hideous!

Verge · #**8591** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Thanks for the link!

[The Fox Design] Much better, not brilliant, but much better--

MARTAisSmarta · #**8592** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 6:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Verge

[The Fox Design] Much better, not brilliant, but much better--

I agree. Huge improvement. It may not be an iconic building, but not everything ever will be. Hopefully it looks as good from the other 3 angles.

daharris80 · #**8593** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 7:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by MARTAisSmarta

I agree. Huge improvement. It may not be an iconic building, but not everything ever will be. Hopefully it looks as good from the other 3 angles.

I still wonder whether its the finial design. When its completed I'll make sure to turret and see for myself.

arctk2014 · #**8594** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by daharris80

I still wonder whether its the finial design. When its completed I'll make sure to turret and see for myself.

Username123 · #**8595** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 7:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by daharris80

I still wonder whether its the finial design. When its completed I'll make sure to turret and see for myself.

All this talk has reminded me of something interesting. The layers of gold leaf that cover the dome of the Georgia State Capitol building are only 1/300th of an inch thick. For comparison, this is the same thickness as Atlanta3000's skin.

Atlanta3000 · #**8596** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Username123

All this talk has reminded me of something interesting. The layers of gold leaf that cover the dome of the Georgia State Capitol building are only 1/300th of an inch thick. For comparison, this is the same thickness as Atlanta3000's skin.

Yeah it is about the thickness of the skin on my @$$ - which you can ki$$.

Atlanta3000 · #**8597** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by arctk2014

Nice try arctk2014 or shall I say USERNAME123....

arctk2014 · #**8598** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Nice try arctk2014 or shall I say USERNAME123....

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but I can truly attest that is not me.

MARTAisSmarta · #**8599** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:55 PM**

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...ials-hotel-project-by-midtown-s-fox.html

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In March, the city’s Department of City Planning began working with Noble to hone the design to respect the historic intersection. It resulted in a new façade design for the hotel, based on recommendations from the Midtown Alliance.

“It is critically important that Atlanta expect more from its designers and more of its buildings,” City Planning Commissioner Tim Keane said in a media release.

“Zoning can only take you so far,” he added. “Regulations don’t make great buildings, only design can do that. We intend to work in a productive way with developers like we did with Noble to improve the architecture in all of Atlanta.”

daharris80 · #**8600** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Username123

All this talk has reminded me of something interesting. The layers of gold leaf that cover the dome of the Georgia State Capitol building are only 1/300th of an inch thick. For comparison, this is the same thickness as Atlanta3000's skin.

That's an interesting take from someone who created a burner account just to post that shot. You are who you aSPIRE to be.