Downtown Vancouver Updates - Page 815

Klazu · #**16281** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 4:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by tabris

Here are some pictures of my view from Trump.

That's a very nice view! Thank you for sharing.

ericmacm · #**16282** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 12:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Is there a common theme among this round of office buildings? I'd say they're all pretty different from each other.

Also, I'm a little disappointed by the height. Isn't this in the viewcone shadow of 1133 Melville? This should be able to go much taller. .

You're definitely right, a lot of them look physically different from each other but I feel like they're all going to use similar clear or gray glass (save for maybe 753 Seymour which looks like it'll use blue glass). It's always nice to have modern towers but I always hope to see more variety in colour (despite clear/gray glass being a staple of modern offices). Regardless, all of the office towers currently proposed or U/C in Vancouver will look fantastic.

Tommyrey · #**16283** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 3:15 PM**

Interesting article on "horizontal skyscrapers" in China. Wonder if the trend to bridges between towers like the Arc will continue here.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/...the-answer-to-overcrowded-cities-raffles

scryer · #**16284** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tommyrey

Interesting article on "horizontal skyscrapers" in China. Wonder if the trend to bridges between towers like the Arc will continue here.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/...the-answer-to-overcrowded-cities-raffles

Well... the Arc is just a superficial architectural choice (honestly speaking).

I think that this article is the beginning of the next generation's city planning - being multi-levelled cities. The only way for Vancouver to achieve this is to get off its "small-town" mindset and to start building taller: way taller.

rofina · #**16285** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tommyrey

Interesting article on "horizontal skyscrapers" in China. Wonder if the trend to bridges between towers like the Arc will continue here.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/...the-answer-to-overcrowded-cities-raffles

This is so shockingly dystopian, that I prefer to not even imagine the scenario.

The idea of ground dwellers and people who never need to touch the ground gives me shivers.

Vin · #**16286** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 8:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by rofina

This is so shockingly dystopian, that I prefer to not even imagine the scenario.

The idea of ground dwellers and people who never need to touch the ground gives me shivers.

People still need to come down to go about their daily routine, really, unless you are referring to computer game nerds who never leave their rooms, but then again I see no difference between one living in a high-rise versus those basement suite ground hogs.

You should check out the Marina Sands in Singapore, where the top "platter" deck commands an awesome view of Singapore's CBD, and even the hermit Kingdom dictator Kim Jong-Un couldn't resist a tour of that.

The Marina Sands:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@1.2862748,10...8zy_RvEb2PR5ZPz0AlhQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

rofina · #**16287** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

People still need to come down to go about their daily routine, really, unless you are referring to computer game nerds who never leave their rooms, but then again I see no difference between one living in a high-rise versus those basement suite ground hogs.

You should check out the Marina Sands in Singapore, where the top "platter" deck commands an awesome view of Singapore's CBD, and even the hermit Kingdom dictator Kim Jong-Un couldn't resist a tour of that.

The Marina Sands:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@1.2862748,10...8zy_RvEb2PR5ZPz0AlhQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Aware of Marina Sands.

But this development in China is something different all together.

It encourages not needing to go down to the ground. In theory if you live and work in the complex, you may not need to go down to ground level very often.

This is just cause for concern in an already, and increasingly stratified society.

jollyburger · #**16288** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 10:54 PM**

Give me a break it's a stupid sky park and it's just as dystopian as any skybridge or basement concourse connecting buildings. Dream on about your hoard of ground dwellers...

Hourglass · #**16289** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 11:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by rofina

Aware of Marina Sands.

But this development in China is something different all together.

It encourages not needing to go down to the ground. In theory if you live and work in the complex, you may not need to go down to ground level very often.

This is just cause for concern in an already, and increasingly stratified society.

Actually, it has a lot to do with population, land scarcity / land use and traffic flows. Chongqing municipality has 27 million people; the city itself has 9 million.

You already see this in places like Hong Kong. Anyone who has not walked around Mongkok on a Saturday afternoon cannot understand how crowded it can get on the street. Think of the crowds leaving BC Place after a Lions or Whitecaps game. Now imagine this happening throughout the day.

So planners do everything they can to get people off the street, whether through elevated walkways, underground malls / passages and all-in-one complexes.

officedweller · #**16290** Posted **Jun 12, 2018, 11:11 PM**

There would be some efficiencies, reducing the load on elevators below the bridges, if there is a need to transfer between towers.
That makes sense for office buildings occupied by the departments of the same company or to shop at retail stores.

In essence it's like Calgary's Plus-15 but higher up.
Some condo towers already have skylobbies to reduce the need for additional elevator cores. This could help with that, I assume.

rofina · #**16291** Posted **Jun 13, 2018, 4:00 PM**

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Give me a break it's a stupid sky park and it's just as dystopian as any skybridge or basement concourse connecting buildings. Dream on about your hoard of ground dwellers...

This development is; its about setting a broader trend.

As for ground dwellers - look at NYC, Mumbai, other mega centres.

The rich live in multi-story penthouses, or entire skyscrapers and commute to work via private helicopter. This isn't the future, this is now.

No large leap of faith required to see how the ultra wealthy continue to separate themselves from the rest and this type of design promotes precisely that type of social stratification.

dreambrother808 · #**16292** Posted **Jun 13, 2018, 5:04 PM**

The article mentions that most of the skybridge is publicly accessible.

Spr0ckets · #**16293** Posted **Jun 13, 2018, 5:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by rofina

This is so shockingly dystopian, that I prefer to not even imagine the scenario.

The idea of ground dwellers and people who never need to touch the ground gives me shivers.

You've been watching 'Altered Carbon' on Netflix, haven't you?

If you haven't, you ought to check it out if for no other reason than that dystopian future where the mega-rich live in not just sky-high skyscrapers ( as in, above the clouds, sky-high), but literal Cloud cities (yeah....just like in Star Wars) and cloud mansions high up in the stratosphere almost, and they never have to go down to the surface to bother with the "grounders" who are both literally and figuratively beneath them.

I doubt that that will ever be a thing any time in our future - near or far - but the notion of a city planning and living scenario (especially in super-densely populated regions) where the wealthy live in high-end, high-rise condo buildings that are super self-contained and enable them to never have to interact with people living in less desirable accommodations below them is not just beyond the realm of possibility but actually our reality now in parts of the world like Hong Kong.

Canada is not nearly densely populated (or scarce in buildable land) for such a situation to ever be a practical reality any time soon.

CivicBlues · #**16294** Posted **Jun 13, 2018, 8:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

I doubt that that will ever be a thing any time in our future - near or far - but the notion of a city planning and living scenario (especially in super-densely populated regions) where the wealthy live in high-end, high-rise condo buildings that are super self-contained and enable them to never have to interact with people living in less desirable accommodations below them is not just beyond the realm of possibility but actually our reality now in parts of the world like Hong Kong.

Real life examples please, or are you just talking out of your ass?