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Old Posted Jun 2, 2018, 4:46 PM
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Translation: Defer to me, guys. Not only did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, I designed it first. Also, I'm "official".
That's not what I said and you know it.

I gave a thoughtful response with logic and explanation of my experience to show simply that my opinion is not "sudden" as ToTheSky proclaimed. Never in my statement did I say that anyone should "defer to me." I simply defended myself in the face of a false accusation.

Please stop with the schoolyard tactics and have an intelligent, informed discussion. That's why people come here.

I don't like this building, and several others have stated that they feel the same way. Please discuss THE BUILDING without defaming others' character.


Moving on...
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2018, 6:01 PM
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the best response I’ve ever seen on this forum
Thanks for making it "official".
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2018, 6:45 PM
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Oh, now I see the point about the word "official."

Let me say that first of all, I was Ambien-typing. I was also trying to use humor in response to ToTheSky's disparaging post. I was trying to say something that was so blatantly not true that it would be obvious that I didn't really mean it (the "official" part). It obviously fell flat as you can't hear sarcasm in written text. My apologies for that.

So I take the blame. But I meant everything I said about not attacking each others' character and accepting that everyone has an opinion.

So I officially apologize for my poor choice of word.
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2018, 8:06 PM
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Love how some of you guys were just crying for height a short couple of years or so ago, complaining about Austin's "400' plateau". Now that Austin has a real signature tower that will dominate our skyline for the foreseeable future as well as add balance between the Austonian and the Independent, some of you same folks have suddenly become self proclaimed architecture critics and taste makers and seem to relish in slamming this building at every opportunity. It's a great unique building, it'll look incredible on the skyline from just about anywhere that you can see downtown Austin from, and it's not getting "dumbed down" at the last minute from what we can tell so far. Some of you need to get over yourselves. My two cents. If you're offended by this, well that's too bad.
You never read a post from me crying for height! Design is the critical factor and this design is downright pedestrian.
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2018, 8:08 PM
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I agree with your sentiment. But that poster you quoted is in California, and has some history of trolling Austin. So don't worry about it too much.

Also was born in Austin and grew up in Texas. I respect everyone's right to choose where one lives and everyone's right to comment on places in which one does not live.

And that's still a pedestrian building design.
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Oh, now I see the point about the word "official."

Let me say that first of all, I was Ambien-typing. I was also trying to use humor in response to ToTheSky's disparaging post. I was trying to say something that was so blatantly not true that it would be obvious that I didn't really mean it (the "official" part). It obviously fell flat as you can't hear sarcasm in written text. My apologies for that.

So I take the blame. But I meant everything I said about not attacking each others' character and accepting that everyone has an opinion.

So I officially apologize for my poor choice of word.
Sir...no one falls flatter on humor and sarcasm than me. I'm am the official king of bad misunderstood humor and sarcasm. You have nothing to apologize for. You are nowhere in my league But I must say, I do like this building. I would have preferred something like the Devon Energy Center in OKC at least first and then this, but this will do for now. The only time I'm a bit disappointed in this design is when I compare the two. My expectation VS reality. I would imagine not everyone likes the Devon tower. Maybe this would fit our skyline better than Devon. However, I can imagine looking up at the residential portion soaring way above the office portion like a mansion on top of a mountain. I'm am intrigued by the uniqueness of this building and am growing to appreciate it in its current form. To ToTheSky's point, I don't have to be a fashion expert to know what kind of clothes I like, and I don't expect everyone to like my shoes. If everyone agreed on everything all the time, I would go elsewhere. Holy Shit!! This time I like something a bunch of you don't like. I would agree with you but then we'd all be wrong. SARCASM
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Can we stop the pointless arguing/ bickering and get back on topic? How old are we?
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2018, 2:30 AM
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I feel that this tower will look really good! Far too long has the Extended Stay and his bug surface parking lot has squandered this spot. Ready for this to get going and for downtown to grow more into the NW quadrant.
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"Deleted"....meaning, "Don't wanna say how old I really am."


We're in the process of moving to a new city in Asia for work. I've missed digs at Genral lately... Eventually I'll be doing so more often. Back to the buildings and such.
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We're in the process of moving to a new city in Asia for work. I've missed digs at Genral lately... Eventually I'll be doing so more often. Back to the buildings and such.
Haha. That and just keeping the peace. Sometimes not saying something is the right thing to do. Keep the digs coming

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Haha. That and just keeping the peace. Sometimes not saying something is the right thing to do. Keep the digs coming
I'm assuming you guys have a friendly "digs" thing going.
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I feel that this tower will look really good! Far too long has the Extended Stay and his bug surface parking lot has squandered this spot. Ready for this to get going and for downtown to grow more into the NW quadrant.
Wouldn't the northwest quadrant be further north? It's gonna be fronting 6th Street. It's on the edge of the West End by my districting standard.
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Wouldn't the northwest quadrant be further north? It's gonna be fronting 6th Street. It's on the edge of the West End by my districting standard.
True, but if you look at all northwest of this building, it really shifts towards small houses and offices very quickly. There's that Rise Apartments building (or whatever it's being used for now) and Se7en apartments, and thats it. This building, among others, could be the beginning of a merger between the highrises near campus, and downtown.
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True, but if you look at all northwest of this building, it really shifts towards small houses and offices very quickly. There's that Rise Apartments building (or whatever it's being used for now) and Se7en apartments, and thats it. This building, among others, could be the beginning of a merger between the highrises near campus, and downtown.
I think the area between 6th And MLK is going to be highrise free for the foreseeable future other than some filling in closer to Guadalupe and along and just north of w6th. Not a bad thing really. I like how that neighborhood is being inclosed.
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I think the eastern end of downtown is where we will start seeing in filler between the Capitol and campus. Hopefully we will get some nice highrises in the new Brackenridge development, and maybe if they eventually bulldoze those parking garages on Trinity. That would make for an impressive skyline stretch seen from the east or west - from mt. bonnell for example - from the river, all the way to the new towers going up in West Campus.
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I think the eastern end of downtown is where we will start seeing in filler between the Capitol and campus. Hopefully we will get some nice highrises in the new Brackenridge development, and maybe if they eventually bulldoze those parking garages on Trinity. That would make for an impressive skyline stretch seen from the east or west - from mt. bonnell for example - from the river, all the way to the new towers going up in West Campus.
CVCs prevent much of eastern downtown from being more than midrises.
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A second CVC determination request was filed again this week. The first one was done last year. I don't know why they would be repeating this process.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/permit/p...=11958072&t_selected_propertyrsn=1126127
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