Amazon HQ2 thread

[dc_denizen]

Georgia tech is a huge advantage.

[bnk]

Originally Posted by dc_denizen

Georgia tech is a huge advantage.

That's funny the entire Central and Western Big Ten highly regarded Universities is a huge advantage.

The center of all of those grads relocate to where? ....

Ill take the majority of BIG TEN schools than one or two tech schools anyday of the week.


Old link but nothing has changed since than.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/chicago/1567496-largest-alumni-bases-chicago.html

This list is supposed to be the largest alumni bases from the Big Ten...

U of Champaign is an awesome school and very hard to get into for even instate students.



- University of Illinois
- Northwestern University
- University of Wisconsin
- University of Michigan
- Ohio State University
- University of Iowa
- Purdue University
- University of Indiana
- Michigan State University
- University of Missouri
- University of Minnesota
- University of Nebraska
...


The new east coast members stay east where perverted Jo Pa and their enablers and company belong.



Out side of the Big Ten you have

The University of Chicago

Notre Dame University

Chicago DePaul University

Marquette University

Loyola University

Hell there are tons and tons more , no need to post 30 more.




BTW I went to Drake University in Des Moines Iowa and 1/3 of the student body were from my area to start with. Most all moved back to their general area after graduating.




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[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

Why does a company need to be in D.C. to have powerful lobbyists? No other powerful lobbying industry has needed that.

right, they just hire DC lobbying firms.
it's also absurd that people think it's going to dc because bezos owns the post and has a house there. those are completely irrelevant to amazon.

[skyscraperpage17]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

right, they just hire DC lobbying firms.
it's also absurd that people think it's going to dc because bezos owns the post and has a house there. those are completely irrelevant to amazon.

I completely agree with you there.

[bnk]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

right, they just hire DC lobbying firms.
it's also absurd that people think it's going to dc because bezos owns the post and has a house there. those are completely irrelevant to amazon.

I have to agree with this. every week for the last 3 weeks some new news [ cutting and pasting ] state that DC has an Inside advantage because Bezos has a mansion there. Its the same storyline with a link to something posted more than a month ago but it is treated like brand new news. This whole process is crazy and there are going to be a lot of upset and insulted people not only on SSP but Metro areas in general once this whole fiasco does down, if it ever does.


That's not to say in general DC area would not be a good choice for Amazon HQ2. DC is a fine Metro IMO. I have DC area in the top 3 choices, but their housing prices are not cheap and would only go up so if they go that route they are not sticking to the point of housing that is affordable to the general Amazon workers that they intend to hire. 50,000 was stated. Add another 1/4 million adjuncted jobs.


I read a business news article on real-estate within the last month or so that said who ever took this would expect to see the said metro region gain a MILLON people total in less than ten years.

If you want the link PM me.

Anything he wants anywhere in the world ten times over. If he wants Biltmore than its his.

Everyone has their price to be bought out at.

That said if it does not go to DC don't expect him to sell his Manson there at all.

Anywhere he goes he could buy a palatial estate with what ever his hobby is and the most expensive penthouse in any downtown including NYC many times over.

He could also pick up 10-30M places in Toronto[ Ten in Canada ] and London [ Upper 30's or no limit at all really ] at the same time and it would not even tick into his massive fortune. Buying real-estate for a guy like him all he is really paying for is staff, upkeep and taxes which again is nothing.
Real estate is real dollars and not necessary wasteful if he plans to sell someday, and he will for we are all on a lifespan that cannot last forever.
Any real estate he buys should at least come close to the DOW and have a return that is not a money sucker. He could even make money on real-estate.


Many local SSP slum lords around here do.

If he really sticks to the original specks than only 3-4 places in the USA would make true sense.

But that said

It could just be the whim of him and his mood of the day and totally override any decision the site selection committee decides upon.


This whole thing is his ego trip...


I don't think he really care about money anymore at this point.

[James Bond Agent 007]

I would hope that Bezos is thinking beyond himself and the location of one of his personal houses when it comes to locating a 2nd headquarters that will possibly be there long after he's gone.

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

I like Atl., but is has a serious inferiority complex, which cities like NY. SF, Boston, and DC don't, and, therefore, it feels like it needs HQ2 to prove that it's a real city. Most people in places like NY, SF, etc. don't even want Amazon or even care about this process.

Lmao you think people in NYC, SF, DC and Boston don't have inferiority? Are you new to earth?

[pico44]

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan

Lmao you think people in NYC, SF, DC and Boston don't have inferiority? Are you new to earth?

Just curious, to whom does New York have an inferiority complex?

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan

Lmao you think people in NYC, SF, DC and Boston don't have inferiority? Are you new to earth?

You must smoke crack.

[the urban politician]

This thread is going into silly mode again. Perhaps time to close it again until there is real news?

[jd3189]

^^^ I couldn't agree more. I thought it would stay close until the list of contenders was reduced officially by Amazon.

[bnk]

I think the general term slumlords took a toll on TUP.

I don't know how much more he can handle this thread anymore.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by bnk

I think the general term slumlords took a toll on TUP.

I don't know how much more he can handle this thread anymore.

Slumlords make a lot of money, I envy them.

Unfortunately for me, I’m an honest and fair landlord, and my manager actually responds to my tenants’ complaints

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

I like Atl., but is has a serious inferiority complex, which cities like NY. SF, Boston, and DC don't, and, therefore, it feels like it needs HQ2 to prove that it's a real city. Most people in places like NY, SF, etc. don't even want Amazon or even care about this process.

getting the amazon hq2 wouldn't finally check the box to make atl a 'real' city. but most of us would welcome the influx of money to help bring it to the next level - there's a lot of infrastructure investment that needs to happen here, and the extra tax revenue would be a boon. the same could probably be said for a lot of smaller to medium sized places. amazon won't make nearly as much of a dent in DC or chicago in my opinion - it would just be another feather in a very full cap. atl probably seems like it has an inferiority complex, but it is definitely the youngest of its peers (and even younger than the bigger, established cities)


i'm short on atlanta - still don't think we're getting it. probably a 2nd or 3rd choice at best.

[mhays]

The million-more-people thing is probably way off. They're presumably counting the jobs, the jobs multiplier, and the other companies that might feed off the ecosystem. But they're forgetting that some of the results would have opposite effects. A more-expensive city with transportation-capacity issues will encourage some residents to leave and others not to come.

Seattle hasn't grown by a million in the last decade despite adding maybe 50,000 at Amazon and Microsoft.

[LouisVanDerWright]

^^^ But that depends entirely upon a given metro's ability to absorb the new demand. I don't think Amazon would have any measurable effect on Chicago's overall housing prices. Certain areas will see prices rise, but there's just so much space to work with here that 50,000 workers might maybe cause one or two more neighborhoods out of 77 to gentrify. We still have a few dozen left.

Originally Posted by iheartthed

What's up with your bourgeoisie fascination? Public transit isn't just for rich and upper middle class people. In fact, those demographics kind of have a history of being very anti-transit.

This is silly, public transit serves all types of people in any healthy city. It's not 1970 anymore, people aren't afraid of taking the bus because they think they'll get shanked.

Originally Posted by Mr Roboto

Um maybe its because people who don't live there are advocating basically kicking them out of their homes,like the post you just quoted. How bout we kick you out of your house so someone richer can live there instead?

I'm not against gentrification, but some of you people seem to take delight in the poor suffering displacement. Pretty sick.

Advocating reasonable utilization of our transit infrastructure isn't "taking delight in the poor suffering displacement". The fact of the matter is the people living in Little Village/Pilsen/Lawndale/Cicero are not using the Pink Line. Whether or not he said it in a sensitive manner, it is not logical for our metropolitian area to allow them to continue living them if they aren't using for what it was built for. And for every poor renter getting "displaced", there is an abuelita laughing all the way to the bank with a six or seven figure title check.

The media and a small crew of "activists" largely invent the narrative of displacement in Chicago anyhow. I've never met any actual neighbors who were against my actions as an "evil gentrifier", they have all welcomed me cleaning up the local burnt out building, abandoned construction site, or trap out for them. However I've seen the full force of the SJW troll brigade on the internet and even had one sassy tagger write "yuppies fuck off" on a building I saved from demolition because they were mad that I immediately deleted their moronic 6' X 12' "masterpiece" they sprayed on my fire escape the weekend before. Meanwhile the pastor from the other side of the block refers other problem houses in the area to me to deal with.

Originally Posted by iheartthed

But your comment implied that more transit resources should be poured into the neighborhoods of doctors and lawyers and at the expense of the neighborhoods of janitors and secretaries. Public transit -- or a public resource in general -- is meant to be egalitarian with respect to who can access it.

No, he's saying that people who don't need to live by the train shouldn't be living by the train. Also you are misinterpreting the origins of this conversation. I mentioned how many of the poorest areas of Chicago have the lowest riderships, but that it's not linked to how bombed out the area is because neighborhoods that are still incredibly dense with very little damaged to the housing stock still have rock bottom ridership to the point where they run 4 car trains instead of 8 car trains that would provide max capacity. So is it really at the expense of the poor if they are hardly using it? The fact is a huge number of the denizens of this area work in the construction trades, industrial/blue collar businesses, or other industries that simply are not concentrated downtown. Those residents would be just as well if not better served if they lived in the near suburbs or near their employer (many of whom are along the inner ring 294 freeway).

[Khantilever]

Originally Posted by James Bond Agent 007

I would hope that Bezos is thinking beyond himself and the location of one of his personal houses when it comes to locating a 2nd headquarters that will possibly be there long after he's gone.

Amazon is public company, with Bezos owning less than 1/5 of the shares. Amazon’s other owners won’t tolerate bad decisions made for the sake of an employee/fellow investor’s personal preferences and business interests.

My guess is this obsession with his DC home, and the new consensus that’s emerged with DC as the favorite, is simply the public — and the media — grasping for any tangible clues they can find. After people soured on Atlanta’s chances — unreasonably, IMO — following the NRA/Delta debacle, the only solid fact that could be plausibly construed as evidence of a location preference is Bezos’ home and ownership of the Post.

[Illithid Dude]

Just saying, Bezos has a couple homes in Beverly Hills. Amazon moving to Los Angeles confirmed????

[aquablue]

Originally Posted by pico44

Just curious, to whom does New York have an inferiority complex?

Inferiority complex is probably not the right word for NY, superiority complex could be though.

However, they should feel inferior if they did an objective non-biased comparison with several cities overseas which are superior in every regard.


As for Amazon - wherever they go I'm not interested. They are already leading to the closure of retail outlets everywhere. Soon enough, the streets of major cities will be boring as hell with only restaurants, banks, and a few clothing stores for females. They have already destroyed most book stores and record stores, soon enough they will close all tech/electronics stores.

[aquablue]

On thinking about it, Amazon would do wonders for Washington. As far as I remember, that area of the city is very rundown and dangerous. The capital city needs the boost. Boston is already a vibrant city as far as people walking on the street/urban life. DC needs to be a bigger player on the world scene because nobody ever talks about the US capital overseas and lumps it with places like Canberra, Ottaway, Brasilia, how sad.