CHICAGO | 400 N Lake Shore Drive | 851 FT & 765 FT | 73 & ? FLOORS

[left of center]

This is MUCH MUCH better than I was anticipating.

I am thrilled about the use of terra cotta! Its a great material, and I'm glad its seeing some use again in modern building designs.

The setbacks feel organic, and seem like they belong in the design more than the setbacks at OCS. The crowns are a bit too much, but over all this is PoMo done well.

Starting construction of both towers at once ensures that we don't just end up with the shorter, stubby tower then some other redesign for the south tower.

The base... eh. Not a fan, but then again, its abutting a highway and its only road access is the narrow and dead end North Water St, which is unlikely to ever really be used a lot by pedestrians, even after whatever is constructed at DuSable Park. Hopefully the city can milk money from Related to help with the site cleanup and build out of the park as well.

Summer 2019? The hell are they waiting for?


Thank you Related, for not shitting in our collective cereal bowl.

[OrdoSeclorum]

I like the profile and skyline presence. But I really like the tera cotta and detailing.

[BobbyChicago]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Actually, there was a report recently from RE/MAX stating how number of the $1M sales in the Chicago area for 1Q 2018 was the highest quarter ever since they started collecting data in 2011. The median price of these class of homes also increased by 5.5%. The number of sales in 1Q 2018 was 7.5% higher than 1Q 2017.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases...ew-heights-prices-rebound-300639431.html

I love that I chose the arbitrary value of $1M+ to denote a luxury home and you gave me an article that defined luxury homes exactly that way.

Thanks for the article! Interesting.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by BobbyChicago

I love that I chose the arbitrary value of $1M+ to denote a luxury home and you gave me an article that defined luxury homes exactly that way.

Thanks for the article! Interesting.

That's how a lot of people define it. Also I just took a look on realtor.com at $1M+ sales - there have been 232 single family homes and condos sold in the city of Chicago alone at $1M+ each between April 1 and May 15 - there's another around 35 small multi family homes sold for at least $1M and my guess is the vast majority will be renovated into SFH.

So in other words, at this rate, 2Q 2018 should top 1Q 2018. I've also been keeping track of regular data by neighborhood for the last 8 months of data. Near North Side sold more condos (and homes - but you know, mostly condos) than any month in the last 8 months. Same as a few other areas like Near West Side. Even though it's spring and it's usually a down time, the number of sales in these areas downtown didn't actually dip like most places would - it just continued to increase.


I know it's hard to believe, but there are numerous $1M+ properties sold in the city pretty much every single day. For example, realtor.com lists 9 sold yesterday in the city (May 14th) and 9 sold on Friday (May 11th). There have been 121 properties of $1M+ sold in Near North Side so far this year. If you include Near West, Near South, and the Loop then it's 193 sold so far this year.
https://www.realtor.com/soldhomeprices/Chicago_IL/price-1000000-na

[rgarri4]

Man what a packed presentation tonight! I had to stand way in the back!
This is so much better than I was expecting. Of course I was expecting a shiny glass box. But Finally a building thats not scared to have some real detail! The terracotta is going to look amazing. Chicago can now compete with New Yorks terracotta super talls going up design by SHOP. The form does remind me of the Waldorf proposal. Mixed with all the setbacks the Skyneedle had. This will provide a nice contrast to the curvy glass Tribune 2 addition. Can't wait to model this one. I'll post shots soon.

[spyguy]

Originally Posted by phanta721

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5afb069a/turbi...rive-ct0069150074-20180515/1250/1250x703

I'm just saying....I'll believe it when I see it.

Not sure I'm totally satisfied here. Height looks fine, but I really dislike how stocky the shorter building looks, the base looks more like a bunker than luxury, and I don't care for the balconies. Hopefully there's some refinements along the way.

Anything about DuSable Park?

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by rgarri4

Man what a packed presentation tonight! I had to stand way in the back!
This is so much better than I was expecting. Of course I was expecting a shiny glass box. But Finally a building thats not scared to have some real detail! The terracotta is going to look amazing. Chicago can now compete with New Yorks terracotta super talls going up design by SHOP. The form does remind me of the Waldorf proposal. Mixed with all the setbacks the Skyneedle had. This will provide a nice contrast to the curvy glass Tribune 2 addition. Can't wait to model this one. I'll post shots soon.

Can't wait to see the model especially with all the other buildings. What was the crowd like? Mostly supportive or were there too many NIMBYs?

[harryc]

Images coutesy of Related Midwest
Image credit: Noe &Associates/Boundary







Terracotta !!!

[Kumdogmillionaire]

Yeah... the riverwalk portion of the base isn't god awful, but the rest of it is not only horrendous, but makes no sense nor has any continuity with the tower's designs. If it blended in better with the towers and the LSD portion wasn't just a giant concrete wall then maybe I could get on board with this thing. For now... I won't hold my breath for it to even get built.

Btw, that detailing on the windows is actually spectacular, too bad it'll never happen. If they couldn't get OBP to have a few bronze details on like 1/10th of the building's north and south sides, then this'll not have the terracotta. That's what my crystal ball is telling me at least

[The Pimp]

So what happens to the circular foundation. It looks like both buildings straddle the hole? Lol.

[rlw777]

If by some miracle 400 LSD, Tribune, and OGP get built Chicago will have 10 supertalls.

[vandelay]

That base is terrible. Very reminiscent of SOM's Hudson Yards building. Why didn't they just have a glassy terracotta base? Pedestrians could at least see the details at ground level, unlike the facade.

[230Roberto]

^^ You mean OCS? Still OGP2 is a contender for a supertall (i think)

[urbanbydesign]

This design is so mediocre and underwhelming. Feels like a such a missed opportunity. Nothing about this feels innovative, fresh, or pushing any boundaries. For such an important site I was hoping for much more of a statement.

[rlw777]

Originally Posted by 230Roberto

^^ You mean OCS? Still OGP2 is a contender for a supertall (i think)

Yes sorry OCS. Two many 3 letter abbreviations that start with O (OBP, OGP, OCS)

[230Roberto]

Oh and by the way can a mod change the title of the thread to 1100ft? Thanks!

[the urban politician]

I like the base, and I think the design is spectacular.

What I don’t like is the developer. If they VE this to death, it will be ruined

[Halsted & Villagio]

Originally Posted by harryc

Images coutesy of Related Midwest
Image credit: Noe &Associates/BoundaryIMG]

Wow! Harry... love all 6 of the new images that you just posted. This is much better than I thought at first glance

.... and I also just read (probably already mentioned) that they plan to build these towers at virtually the same time. I love that idea. Takes out the chances of market fluctuations causing a delay in the second tower being built.

A+ all the way around so far.

[Rizzo]

Very impressed. Those detailed closeups make it all the more better. I feel this is more composed in the skyline than the spire ever was

[harryc]

Originally Posted by The Pimp

So what happens to the circular foundation. It looks like both buildings straddle the hole? Lol.

Looks like the taller tower can use many of the existing caissons (there are 14 rock caissons around the hole).

They also showed 4 levels of underground parking - making use of the existing secant & slurry walls.