CHICAGO | 400 N Lake Shore Drive | 851 FT & 765 FT | 73 & ? FLOORS

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

I totally agree, but I can see how some people might be moderately upset since we were given inaccurate information (we were expecting "way" taller than 875' and the number we have been given is not that).

I gave the information I was given... so sorry it wasn't fulfilling and didn't live up to peoples expectations and standards.

Was correct about the two towers part and the firm though.

Can't always have what we want.

[go go white sox]

Originally Posted by BVictor1

I've really been thinking about this project lately, and I will reserve judgement until I actually see a design.

Expectations are high, and that wasn't just revolving around height and scale.

Reading everyone's comments, I come to the conclusion that we've all become a bit spoiled. Yes... we were all hoping for something about 1,500', but realistically, I think we all knew that was a long shot.

Over the past 7 months, we've had three announced skyscrapers that'll meet or exceed 1,000'. Think about that...

None of us expected One Chicago Square to be to towers ranging from 660' t0 1,011'...

Three weeks ago we got Tribune East at over 1,400'

And now this...

While I too was hoping for something taller, we have an evolving skyline right before our eyes.

So instead of bitching and zoning, how about waiting until Tuesday, or when the renderings come out...?

I couldn't agree more when I joined this site 4 years ago Chicago was not building at these current Heights I'd like to add the second phase of OGB that should be near Supertall status, the South Tower of Wolf Point, that's what about 5+ supertalls in the works?

[JMKeynes]

I think that these towers will be beautiful. Multiple set backs on two very tall towers sounds great to me.

[cannedairspray]

Even an architecture layman, like me, understands that the height of a thing doesn't matter much. How in interacts at the ground level, how it makes the neighborhood more livable... that's what matters.

Full disclosure, while I liked the design of the Spire, I always thought it was a bit bizarre to build a mega tall there. 1k seems much more suitable, but it has to look pretty cause we're gonna see it forever.

[glowrock]

Suffice it to say, it's readily apparent that we have a bunch of new Corsucant-style Chicago SSPers in our midst right now.

Personally, I'll take Chicago's urban fabric any day, any night over a massive sea of supertalls such as Dubai. I know there's a happy medium somewhere, but personally I'll lean closer to Chicago than Dubai when it comes to livability!

For those such as Siriusly, I do honestly suggest toning it down more than a little bit. Your brash and insulting posts are doing little more than piss off pretty much everyone else in the Chicago SSP contingent. I understand your passion for skyscrapers and supertalls, but wow, tone it down, would you please???

Aaron (Glowrock)

[Steely Dan]

Off topic posts deleted. nothing good ever comes from the incessant dick measuring contests.

Anyone who mentions NYC or any NYC project in this thread is getting suspended.

For a really long time.

Perhaps forever.

[ardecila]

Originally Posted by cannedairspray

Even an architecture layman, like me, understands that the height of a thing doesn't matter much. How in interacts at the ground level, how it makes the neighborhood more livable... that's what matters.

Full disclosure, while I liked the design of the Spire, I always thought it was a bit bizarre to build a mega tall there. 1k seems much more suitable, but it has to look pretty cause we're gonna see it forever.

A city full of sculpted object buildings is a bore, but if there ever was a site for an object building, this is it. It's on an isolated peninsula of the city, guaranteeing that nobody will ever walk past it. If it has a well-designed base, so much the better (hopefully it interacts well with Ogden Slip) but I will personally hope for a building that is distinctive and fitting for the skyline instead of a generic 500 N LSD glass box. In this case, I think the postcard image does matter more than the urbanist fundamentals.

That being said... I don't need to see a supertall here. We can have an iconic, unique sculptural design that will be a fitting centerpiece for the skyline without the unrealistic expectation of a 2000' tall tower that will never make business sense...

[moorhosj]

Originally Posted by ardecila

That being said... I don't need to see a supertall here.

Based on the Tribune article, you will see a supertall here.

[Notyrview]

Something sensual and fluid would be nice given it's where the river meets the lake. However, i wouldn't want an object building. Those always look so cheesy. But sensual would be good.

[LouisVanDerWright]

I'm hoping for two totally featureless glass boxes that Related will VE to the point where they literally ditch the glass and go with Saran Wrap (TM) as the cladding. Also hoping the Tribune is wrong and the tallest tower is 999' 11" just to fuck with everyone here.

[Notyrview]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

I'm hoping for two totally featureless glass boxes that Related will VE to the point where they literally ditch the glass and go with Saran Wrap (TM) as the cladding. Also hoping the Tribune is wrong and the tallest tower is 999' 11" just to fuck with everyone here.

Lol well i think you're prob in luck

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

And "way taller" is subjective so it's not really a big deal...

i think that's where many of us got tripped up.

i knew that with related involved the pipe dream of a mega-tall on this site was just that, a pipe dream.

but when i heard the rumor of "way taller" than 875', i foolishly allowed my imagination to wander and thought to myself "shit, maybe related really will go big here, maybe up to 1,500' and take the local title away from sears".

but no, that was always gonna be pretty unlikely considering the fact that were' talking about related.

a 14% difference doesn't fall under my personal definition of "way", but at least it sounds like they're proposing something in the super-tall range, so while it won't be skyline redefining, it'll still be tall enough to stand out in its immediate surroundings. let's just hope the design doesn't disappoint. i guess we'll find that out soon enough.

[Sky88]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

I'm not blaming you, I'm blaming the person who told you. And "way taller" is subjective so it's not really a big deal... I'm looking forward to seeing the design and hope there's a cool skybridge between the towers.

Maybe something like that ...






Perkins + Will released renderings of a conceptual twin-towered project for the Spire site (rendering by Perkins + Will) - 2014

[maru2501]

can't find my magic wand or I'd hand this to Jeanne Gang and say do whatever you want

[gebs]

I love seeing everyone go through the five stages of grief in real time.

[gebs]

Denial: Maybe they fed the Sun Times the wrong info just to mess with us.
Anger: WHERE'S MY TWO-THOUSAND FOOTER?!
Bargaining: But really, who would want a megatall here anyway, right?
Depression: Stupid 2008 recession.
Acceptance: Welp, just so long as it looks good.

[r18tdi]

^ lol

[harryc]

May 8 2018

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by gebs

Denial: Maybe they fed the Sun Times the wrong info just to mess with us.
Anger: WHERE'S MY TWO-THOUSAND FOOTER?!
Bargaining: But really, who would want a megatall here anyway, right?
Depression: Stupid 2008 recession.
Acceptance: Welp, just so long as it looks good.

that was beautiful.

[Investing In Chicago]

I'm probably in the minority here, but i'd rather 2 towers at ~1,000ft and ~800ft than 1 ~1,500 foot tower....As long as they look good.