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Reinsdorf Sucks · #**621** Posted **May 8, 2018, 12:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Reinsdorf Sucks

They did have a mini competition this time last year for at least a supertall, but didn't go with any of the submissions.

I believe it's the opposite. As soon as Vista broke ground the vision for this site was scaled back, and now it's likely to be 2 shorter towers.

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Originally Posted by FrankLloydWrong

This is what I've heard as well. Two towers, SOM design.

Never forget!

the urban politician · #**622** Posted **May 8, 2018, 1:43 PM**

I hear whispers that this will be 3000 ft tall and will have a statue of Chance the Rapper on top

rlw777 · #**623** Posted **May 8, 2018, 2:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

I hear whispers that this will be 3000 ft tall and will have a statue of Chance the Rapper on top

Rumor has it that Related has paired up with Magellan to develop twin towers at the mouth of the Chicago river.

Here's a preliminary design. I suspect a few folks will be disappointed as they are using precast

http://www.nzedge.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/AnduiRiver_NZEDGe01.jpg

maru2501 · #**624** Posted **May 8, 2018, 4:20 PM**

can we get spires on the helmets please

Freefall · #**625** Posted **May 8, 2018, 4:54 PM**

Leaked by AJ Latrace

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcpfS7TW0AUC7LH.jpg

left of center · #**626** Posted **May 8, 2018, 5:16 PM**

^ That's some bold architecture. Boldness that is only eclipsed by the crisp, full bodied flavor of an Old Style at an afternoon game at Wrigley.

Steely Dan · #**627** Posted **May 8, 2018, 5:21 PM**

chicago doesn't have a fully krausened skyscraper yet, so this new leak is very promising.

MiamiSpartan · #**628** Posted **May 10, 2018, 1:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

I hear whispers that this will be 3000 ft tall and will have a statue of Chance the Rapper on top

Kumdogmillionaire · #**629** Posted **May 10, 2018, 2:07 AM**

I love the casual title change a mod made "or not" hahaha

left of center · #**630** Posted **May 10, 2018, 2:08 AM**

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I love the casual title change a mod made "or not" hahaha

Lol, its funny, and then immediately very sad

HomrQT · #**631** Posted **May 10, 2018, 3:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by left of center

Lol, its funny, and then immediately very sad

Seriously, Chicago strikes out way too often on these big projects. Stop showing off these giant building renderings at me and then delivering something significantly shorter. =/

Steely Dan · #**632** Posted **May 10, 2018, 2:02 PM**

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Stop showing off these giant building renderings at me and then delivering something significantly shorter.

how is that at all relevant in this case when we have seen no renderings of anything from the developer?

Notyrview · #**633** Posted **May 10, 2018, 2:29 PM**

^Maybe he's referring to that Hadid dude's extraordinary concept. I still cannot even with that one... so amazing.

Steely Dan · #**634** Posted **May 10, 2018, 3:26 PM**

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^Maybe he's referring to that Hadid dude's extraordinary concept.

perhaps. or maybe he's referring to that gateway tower thing gensler released.

either way, neither had anything to do with related midwest, the actual owner of the site. they were just fantasies from other parties.

related midwest has not released any public info on what they intend to build on the site, so hormQT's claim of "bait and switch" is entirely without merit as things currently stand.

Notyrview · #**635** Posted **May 10, 2018, 4:04 PM**

Strictly speaking, sure, but poetically I think the bait n switch is an apt metaphor and has a good amount of merit here. We've seen all these amazing concepts and unless Related has undergone some sort of awakening in the mountains of Tibet... I would name this poem "Can't we do better?"

maru2501 · #**636** Posted **May 10, 2018, 4:17 PM**

this is a bit of a referendum for related on chicago

I know what I'm expecting

gebs · #**637** Posted **May 10, 2018, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by maru2501

this is a bit of a referendum for related on chicago

I know what I'm expecting

I think this description perfectly nails it. We've seen that Related can get projects off the ground and they certainly have a big footprint in the city. But as far as how committed they are to the fabric of design and architecture in Chicago, this will be it. If they can pull it off, it will be their legacy. If we get another 111 E Wacker, then I think everyone (at least on this forum) will give up hope forever.

Notyrview · #**638** Posted **May 10, 2018, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by maru2501

this is a bit of a referendum for related on chicago

I know what I'm expecting

Totally dude, if there will ever be a window for redemption, this is it.

nomarandlee · #**639** Posted **May 10, 2018, 5:57 PM**

Mine won't be a popular sentiment here but.....

If latest rumors are true and the taller of the two towers fail to reach over 1,000ft there will be some disappointment for sure. Should there be?

After thinking about the developments in recent weeks I view this as an almost unintentional fair trade with the Tribune Tower plans. Did anyone think it was likely we would get well over 1,000ft for the new TT tower? I sure didn't. Would most have been happy with a 700-999ft. at the Tribune site that we may get at the Spire site? I think most would have said yes. The switch in expectations is perhaps just what we'll get if receive if rumours are true and both developments play out.

And in hindsight, we shouldn't be surprised if it does play that way. If I were ready to plop down +1million on a condo at either I would choose the Tribune site all day and night. Unless you REALLY REALLY love unobstructed lake views (of which the top 1/3 of TT will give you essentially as well) than what advantage does the Spire site offer over the TT site? The TT sits right on Michigan Ave and RN eateries. It sits closer to the Loop and transit options if you aren't retired and still working. The Spire site is on a bit of a relative island unless you are a running/biking enthusiast. And that will maybe be a big advantage when the lakefront pedestrian bridge opens in the year 2060.

All in all, I think an unexpected but fair trade for us skyscraper geeks with the two sites. I just hope to see both projects get off the ground provided Related comes through with a good design for the Spire site.

Khantilever · #**640** Posted **May 10, 2018, 6:10 PM**

^ Agreed that the Spire really skewed our expectations for what this site could handle, and made it easier to overlook more valuable sites like the Tribune lots. It really shows that the true “center” of the city where values are highest is still at the mouth of the river—the *original* mouth, that is, at the Michigan Avenue bridge where DuSable first settled.