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Old Posted Apr 16, 2018, 2:48 PM
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By changing the elevation of the viewpoint, we get a rough approximation of what it would look like if taller buildings had been built. Granted it is an extreme example and not a perfect representation, but it certainly gives you an idea of what could have happened.

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Old Posted Apr 30, 2018, 3:44 PM
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I suspect that such stories will become routine in coming decades.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2018, 3:56 PM
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Yikes is right. Good luck selling without taking a massive hit to your selling price.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2018, 4:02 PM
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Does anyone know what building was on fire on Champagne Ave?

edit: looks like it's the new envie student building
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2018, 4:42 PM
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I suspect that such stories will become routine in coming decades.
New laws passed by the province a few years ago make it a lot less likely for stories like this to happen to condos being built today (it makes it a lot harder for repair backlogs to go unnoticed like this) but for anything pre-2015, yes, they will become common.

I think in these situations the province should step in. Options could be to either:
1) provide low-interest loans to pay for these backlog repairs over a longer period of time so the payment hike is less dramatic.
2) operate a sort of insurance system, where a provincial fund will help pay for the cost of repairs in situations like this, and this provincial fund collects its money from a small tax levied on all buildings in the province. To avoid this being abused by buildings that don't want to invest in their proper operation, require copays/deductibles for the claims
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2018, 4:46 PM
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Does anyone know what building was on fire on Champagne Ave?

edit: looks like it's the new envie student building
some news here:
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news...&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1525105671
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2018, 5:10 PM
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Three thoughts:

I think there needs to be a way to write some of these buildings off. How long before the value of these units is zero? The condo fees plus taxes is almost certainly more than rent in the area (even before this charge).

I think too many condo corporations treat reserve funds like savings accounts, periodically draining them to undertake a project without saving for the big expenses.

Condo corporations need more financing options. If a homeowner needed a major repair they would probably try to finance it rather try to pay for it all at once.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2018, 9:53 PM
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New laws passed by the province a few years ago make it a lot less likely for stories like this to happen to condos being built today (it makes it a lot harder for repair backlogs to go unnoticed like this) but for anything pre-2015, yes, they will become common.

I think in these situations the province should step in. Options could be to either:
1) provide low-interest loans to pay for these backlog repairs over a longer period of time so the payment hike is less dramatic.
2) operate a sort of insurance system, where a provincial fund will help pay for the cost of repairs in situations like this, and this provincial fund collects its money from a small tax levied on all buildings in the province. To avoid this being abused by buildings that don't want to invest in their proper operation, require copays/deductibles for the claims
I don't think taxpayers should have to step in to fund a private sector problem. There are people who choose to rent or buy a freehold property specifically to avoid financial repercussions from other people's financial mismanagement.

The condo board should be held more responsible themselves, and be more accountable themselves to the owners in the condo building.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2018, 11:01 PM
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New laws passed by the province a few years ago make it a lot less likely for stories like this to happen to condos being built today (it makes it a lot harder for repair backlogs to go unnoticed like this) but for anything pre-2015, yes, they will become common.

I think in these situations the province should step in. Options could be to either:
1) provide low-interest loans to pay for these backlog repairs over a longer period of time so the payment hike is less dramatic.
2) operate a sort of insurance system, where a provincial fund will help pay for the cost of repairs in situations like this, and this provincial fund collects its money from a small tax levied on all buildings in the province. To avoid this being abused by buildings that don't want to invest in their proper operation, require copays/deductibles for the claims
Should the province similarly subsidize owners of SFHs for their maintenance/repair costs? I don't see how these condo owners are in any different a position from other homeowners facing major maintenance/repair costs.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2018, 11:38 PM
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Buyer beware - condo buyers need to check facts on the reserve study / repair schedule!

Owners beware - you need to show up at your annual AGM, review the material and ask the hard questions when it comes to the finances of your home!

Taxpayers should not be on the hook for either of these!
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Old Posted May 1, 2018, 12:00 AM
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Should the province similarly subsidize owners of SFHs for their maintenance/repair costs? I don't see how these condo owners are in any different a position from other homeowners facing major maintenance/repair costs.
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I don't think taxpayers should have to step in to fund a private sector problem. There are people who choose to rent or buy a freehold property specifically to avoid financial repercussions from other people's financial mismanagement.

The condo board should be held more responsible themselves, and be more accountable themselves to the owners in the condo building.
Neither of these ideas are actually provincial subsidies. The first idea is for loans, not grants. Low interest would be at a level such that it's cost-neutral for the province to provide them (as opposed to private loans, which would charge a high enough interest rate to make a profit). The second idea is self-funded from condos themselves.
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Old Posted May 2, 2018, 3:14 AM
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I don't understand how it works. Condo fees go up. Go WAY UP over the years to the point that they alone are nearly as high as rent prices in similar buildings while rents stay relatively stable (going up with inflation) throughout the years. So how do condo fees have to go up so high while rents in building that require the same maintenance are stable?
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Old Posted May 2, 2018, 3:25 AM
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Rents don't necessarily stay stable by choice of the building owner. Increases are controlled by the provincial government, which itself heavily favours tenants. I'm not aware of any control over condo fee increases.
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Old Posted May 2, 2018, 1:03 PM
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Few things:

Most owners of larger rental buildings have a portfolio of buildings so they are able to even out costs better.

I think condo boards feel they need to implement all of the recommendations of the engineer in the shorter term. Building owners have more flexibility to manage risk.

They also (not sure if this is a legal requirement or just the usual practice) treat units equally in terms of upgrades. A landlord doesn't have such an obligation.

Condo boards are basically required to maintain a building in its current state forever. Landlords (and regular homeowners) don't have this requirement.
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Old Posted May 2, 2018, 10:12 PM
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Neither of these ideas are actually provincial subsidies. The first idea is for loans, not grants. Low interest would be at a level such that it's cost-neutral for the province to provide them (as opposed to private loans, which would charge a high enough interest rate to make a profit). The second idea is self-funded from condos themselves.
I have to still disagree with you re loans just for condo owners, for the same reasons as above.
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Old Posted May 3, 2018, 11:33 AM
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Renos push GG out of Rideau Hall — she's now in secret location

Kelly Egan, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: May 3, 2018 | Last Updated: May 3, 2018 6:30 AM EDT




Gov. Gen. Julie Payette has been unable to move into historic Rideau Hall because of ongoing renovations to the country’s most prominent heritage building.

The governor general’s office confirmed this week that Payette, who was sworn in Oct. 2, has not been able to take up residence in Rideau Hall’s private quarters, a roughly 5,000 square foot space on the second floor of the so-called Monck wing.

Citing security concerns, they’ve declined to say where she has been “accommodated” for the last seven months “to ensure the safety of the Governor General.”

Fresh off the ongoing disaster that is 24 Sussex Drive, the delay means the two most prominent official residences in the capital area — there are six in total — are not housing their intended dignitaries.

The National Capital Commission, which manages the residences, says work at Rideau Hall began in September, just as David and Sharon Johnston were preparing to depart the building, which dates to 1838 in the oldest section, after seven years in office.

(Sprucing up between GGs is said to be a normal part of these transitions, particularly given the different sizes and characters of vice-regal families.)

The $1.7-million upgrade consists of “life-cycle improvements” generally focused on mechanical systems. The work involves removing an old heating system and installing new heating, ventilation and air-conditioning systems. The work involved a “significant portion” of the private quarters, the state offices, and other parts of the Monck wing, a massive addition named for Canada’s first governor general.

Also included is the renovation of a washroom to make it “universally accessible,” the installation of cabinets and window coverings, improved lighting and an update on “furnishings and furniture layouts.”

It is unclear how much input Payette, a former astronaut, had in decorating decisions or what changes were required to accommodate a teenager, her son Laurier, who was 14 at the time of Payette’s installation.

So, where has Canada’s vice-regal been living?

“For the transition and the extended construction period, the National Capital Commission assisted with temporary accommodations for the Governor General,” says a written response from the NCC. It, too, is declining to name the location.

Well, the most likely place would be in another official residence. However, 24 Sussex is out, as is Stornaway, unlikely is Harrington Lake or The Farm in Kingsmere (home to the Speaker of the House), leaving only 7 Rideau Gate.

And, indeed, this newspaper has learned that events normally scheduled at 7 Rideau Gate have been relocated to other locations.

The building is the official government guest house for visiting dignitaries. Acquired by the government in 1966, it is hardly shabby. Built in the 1860s by an early industrialist, the stone structure, in excess of 8,000 square feet, is about half-a-block deep and has housed many heads of state.

It is, however, on an adjacent city street, not within Rideau Hall’s fenced 80 acres, where the 22-room Rideau Cottage is located, the temporary home for Justin Trudeau and his family since his election as PM in 2015.

Housing Canada’s first families is an expensive, complicated endeavour. There were media reports the government was spending an extra $2 million to improve security at Rideau Cottage, while 24 Sussex is said to cost thousands each month just to maintain the empty building.

Its future is uncertain. Not only are the repair bills astronomical — anywhere from $10 million to $38 million, depending on the plan — but spending gobs of public money on a mansion overlooking the Ottawa River is politically dicey.

24 Sussex, the Rideau Hall neighbour completed in 1868, was expropriated by the federal government in 1943. It was first used as the official residence of the prime minister in 1951 by Louis St. Laurent. By the time Stephen Harper lived there, it was termed a fire trap in desperate need of an overhaul.

As for the largely ceremonial function of Rideau Hall, it’s business as usual, apparently.

“The Governor General is temporarily residing in an alternate location in the National Capital Region during the construction,” says an email from the media office. “There has been minimal impact on our programme operations as the focus of the work is outside the ceremonial areas of the building.”

(There was, for instance, a dinner at Rideau Hall for the Aga Khan on Wednesday.)

Well, it’s all very curious. Rideau Hall is possibly Canada’s single most important heritage building, predating Parliament Hill. The Canadian people own it, pay for its upkeep, pay the salaries of everyone inside.

We care very much, actually, who does and doesn’t live there. Why weren’t we told?

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Old Posted May 3, 2018, 5:58 PM
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The London Arms building at 151 Metcalfe is being demolished as we speak.

There's a live feed of the demolition right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5gF_Laxhn0&feature=youtu.be
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Old Posted May 4, 2018, 7:15 PM
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The London Arms building at 151 Metcalfe is being demolished as we speak.

There's a live feed of the demolition right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5gF_Laxhn0&feature=youtu.be

Super Cool! Thanks for the share. If i remember correctly, this was going to turn into a park?
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Old Posted May 6, 2018, 5:07 AM
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I would say park-ing is more likely. Build a park, and people will expect it to stay forever.
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