noirish Los Angeles

[ethereal_reality]

Thank you Hoss!

The 1928 aerial is great. That's exactly where I thought the girls hiked.
That said, I couldn't help but notice something else in your 1928 aerial.

I circled what appears to be a bridge, but on one end there is something quite tall that is creating a long shadow.


ORIGINALLY POSTED BY HOSSC

Do you know what that is Hoss?

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[ethereal_reality]

'mystery' location from old file.


originally from ebay

I can't decide if that's a rat or pig or something inbetween.

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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I can't decide if that's a rat or pig or something inbetween.

If it's for a Pink Floyd promo, then it's a pig - see here for more info.

[Mstimc]

Originally Posted by ProphetM

I looked at the Find A Grave link and that bird looks nothing like the one at The Times, which seems to match the one in old photos of the bombing. The biggest difference is that the one in the cemetery does not have outstretched wings, but aside from that it seems to be just a completely different design in every way.

Well I guess that settles that. So sorry for asking!

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location from old file.


originally from ebay


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I'm pretty sure that photo looks southwest at the old KLOS building on La Cienega just north of Jefferson.

The photo below was taken in March or April 1971, so a little pre-pig, but I believe this shows where the mystery photo
was taken. La Cienega is on the right, with north at the top:



Flight TG_2755, Frame 16-15 at UCSB


If I'm correct, the radio tower and the building behind it that we see in the mystery photo are also in this more
recent aerial view looking west:



Google

[Noir_Noir]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location from old file.


originally from ebay

I can't decide if that's a rat or pig or something inbetween.

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Another angle of the pig ... definitely a boar.


Ebay

The photos seemingly date from 1987 or later -

Following the legal actions by Roger Waters, Pink Floyd 1987 was forced to add testicles to their pigs. Since the pig in the photo quite obviously has testicles, it seems likely that this pig (and the photo thereof) dates from 1987 or later.

http://www.cs.umd.edu/~dekhtyar/errorfest/CliffJones.html


The site where the old KLOS studio stood was cleared last year -


GSV

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for the location of the Pink Floyd Rat Pig / KLOS snapshot Flyingwedge. I was way off the mark. I thought it was somewhere near the Hollywood Freeway.


The cleared KLOS site is intended for this huge-🞵🞵🞵 project. You can read about it HERE


la.curbed

I find it interesting that the two radio towers are still in place
Do you think they're going to be functional (do companies rent them?)...or left standing as a homage to the old radio station



wouldn't a much shorter tower on the roof the tall building....oh.... n e v e r m i n d.
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Here's the KLOS site pre-bulldozers (2014)


google_earth

[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

OK, you might have guessed that I know NOTHING about radio towers...but
if the towers are intended to be functional wouldn't a much shorter tower on the roof the tall building work better.
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From my reading the Curbed article, the radio towers will not be part of the new development(not sure why they didn't Photoshop them out of the rendering). Hmmm, accent colors; the bright colors they seem to be putting on all new construction that will fade to fugly in about 10 to 15 years.

ETA: That's right next to the La Cienega Expo line station, there's a big push to build higher density near transit.

[ethereal_reality]

You mean I blabbed on and on about the radio towers for nothing.

[ProphetM]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

OK, you might have guessed that I know NOTHING about radio towers...but
if the towers are intended to be functional wouldn't a much shorter tower on the roof the tall building work better.

I don't really know, either, but there may be rules that can be circumvented by using the existing towers - restrictions of one kind or another that might make towers on the building costly or otherwise problematic, but that do not apply to existing structures.

I know in some places there are rules such as this for billboards or signs. For instance, in Ukiah, CA when In-N-Out built a new location, they repurposed the existing tall sign from the business that once stood there, because a new sign would not be allowed to stand as tall. The entire rest of the property was cleared for new construction.

Several years ago the Tropicana Hotel & casino here in Las Vegas completely remodeled their large signs on Tropicana Ave. and Las Vegas Blvd., and I think there might have been similar rules, or perhaps just costs. As I drove to work each day I watched, over a period of weeks, as they systematically de-constructed the signs down to only two large metal poles, and then built entirely new signs upon those.

[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

You mean I blabbed on and on about the radio towers for nothing.

The towers in the rendering were deceptive, so you get a pass THIS TIME, er.

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks Bill

Originally Posted by HossC

It's for a Pink Floyd promo, then it's a pig.

I was aware of the Pink Floyd Pig, but that thing at KLOS was all kinds of wrong.
I thought they mistakenly rented a rat. (and tried to make it look like a pig)
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I just read the Pink Floyd Pig in 1994 was a Warthog-Pig. Now I'm pretty sure the pig at KLOS was the Warthog-Pig. (it even has tusk-like teeth)
So Noir's date of "anytime after 1987" seems about right.

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir

Another angle of the pig ... definitely a boar.


Ebay

Biggest balls I've ever seen!

[ethereal_reality]

and while we're on the subject of Pink Floyd....

Has anyone seen the Wizard of OZ with the soundtrack to Pink Floyd's 'The Dark Side of the Moon?

I did once at an auditorium here at Purdue. They showed the whole damn movie. (I thought it was going to be shorter)

Dark Side of the Rainbow

[LA Kitty Kat]

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I did, I did!

[ethereal_reality]

You saw it? What did you think ot it Kitty Kat?



'mystery' location.

"Victory girl, heading to work."


pinterest (if you click on the link you never find the true source

There aren't too many clues, location wise, but this definitely looks like L.A. to me.

I imagine her working at Lockheed in Burbank or the Douglas Aircraft Factory in Santa Monica or Long Beach.

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[LA Kitty Kat]

Ethereal, I, too, thought it was too long--but, of course, the music was fantastic.
I saw it screened on the wall of a building in downtown Los Angeles. I don't think that they do that anymore at that location. It was called the Devil's Night Drive-In and it was on Fourth Street.

[Otis Criblecoblis]

I hope you all won't mind if I request your assistance with an inquiry.

My nephew--actually the husband of my niece--is a PR man, one of whose clients is the Toronto Second City troupe. He grew up in Toronto. I mentioned to him that, back in the Seventies, Second City had a venue here in Pasadena: Fignewton's, at 3737 E. Foothill Blvd., now the site of a Chuck E. Cheese outlet.

But when I searched for any evidence of its existence, all I could find was some evidence of its later existence as a disco.

Now, I was too young ever to visit Fignewton's in its earlier identity, but I did drive by it a million times, when it had the prominent sign reading "Fignewton's: The Second City Revue." While the address is Foothill, the physical location was along Rosemead Boulevard.

My request is for the many brilliant built-environment sleuths here: will you help point me to where I might find at least some photographic evidence of the existence of this onetime Second City outpost hereabouts? It would be of great assistance to my nephew as he seeks to promote an upcoming reunion of the classic Second City worthies.

Thanks for reading this!

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thank you Hoss!

The 1928 aerial is great. That's exactly where I thought the girls hiked.
That said, I couldn't help but notice something else in your 1928 aerial.

I circled what appears to be a bridge, but on one end there is something quite tall that is creating a long shadow.


ORIGINALLY POSTED BY HOSSC

Do you know what that is Hoss?

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In looking at this from a couple of angles, it appears that the bridge you see is the railroad bridge over the Arroyo and the freeway (now) .It is northeast of Avenue 49, runs in the same direction and is the oldest extant railroad bridge in Los Angeles County, rebuilt on the location of the original in 1896 (the older one was there from 1889.) In looking at the aerial photo, I think that the black mark you see is what radiologists call an "artifact". It is a lot darker and straighter than any other shadow on the picture.

I spent yesterday trying to connect the girls in the "hiking" picture with people who lived in the area at that time, so far, no luck, but I will keep trying.

[HossC]

I think that the whole bridge might be an "artifact" (to borrow oldstuff's term). There's nothing there on the 1927 aerial or the 1944 image below. I've arrowed the location of the unknown 1928 object. Unfortunately, the 1934 flight hasn't yet been scanned. The bridge at the right is Avenue 52.


mil.library.ucsb.edu

[Lwize]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham

Times Building would be a great site for a Newspaper Museum...

What's a Newspaper?