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Old Posted Apr 8, 2018, 12:13 PM
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Really LRT?

Not because he is a Borrow, Tax and Spend Liberal Party member and best friends with Kathleen Wynne?





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Helmer would have my vote sewn up. Just on account of his strong push for LRT....I was getting email from him for months on the subject.
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I would love to see Helmer run for mayor as well, he seems to be open minded and actually gives thought and responses to issues. As mentioned he was very pro LRT (and rapid transit in general).

Someone should send him a note Helmer for mayor!!
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It is certainly true that the provincial election result will affect the municipal one.
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Apparently Doug Ford in a Hamilton speech said something like If the current plans don't work for the LRT he will still give the money for whatever infrastructure the city wants so that all residents are happy and feel like the tax dollars are spread out. Even if its a hybrid solution with a little bit of rapid transit a little bit of highways and bridges. But if Hamilton sticks with LRT he will still fund it
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This is an interview actually with his correct wording about the Hamilton LRT so you guys aren't worried if Ford will fund infrastructure or not.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4120637/doug-ford-hamilton-appearance-scott-thompson-interview/
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We need the LRT too, why just Hamilton? They are even smaller than London. This is the best time for London to get back to the LRT topic. We have an election coming what better time can it be?
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While I agree that we should have LRT, London is not larger than Hamilton. Our ridership is, last I checked, so perhaps that's what you're referring to?
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We need the LRT too, why just Hamilton? They are even smaller than London. This is the best time for London to get back to the LRT topic. We have an election coming what better time can it be?
Hamilton isn't smaller than London. It's actually bigger in terms of population, by a substantial margin. The Census Metropolitan Area (CMA) population is 745K; the actual city population is 539K.

Hamilton's actual urban area covers 220 square kilometres, while London has 232 km², making London slightly larger. Hamilton's Metro area, which includes undeveloped land and farmland, covers 1311km², while London has 2662km².

So Hamilton is much more densely population, but its urban area is about the same as London's.

When I lived briefly in Hamilton from early 1991 until late 1992, I always felt it had a more compact feel than London. The city's longitudinal layout along the south shore of Lake Ontario probably allowed it to build much better in-city expressways, while London, rather strangely, has yet to build (and probably never will build) a true in-city expressway. Perhaps the expressways in Hamilton account for the more compact layout.
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Current city councillor Tanya Park is rumoured to be announcing intent to run for Mayor on Friday. She only recently said she was not running for another term as councillor because she has accomplished everything she set out to do in this term. But now she will be a (the?) pro-BRT candidate for mayor.
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Pass! Parks is a pretty crappy councillor. She couldn't even win the NDP nomination for 1/3 of London, what makes her think she'll win the position of mayor?! Guess she needs a job somewhere. The ranked balloting system will be interesting. But I guess the left wing needs a candidate to run. All we need is Media Mo to run to get a full basket of crappy candidates.
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LRT's and Subways need DENSITY to be viable.

London's population is far less dense then Hamilton's. Nor do Londoner's appear happy to see any density increases in their neighborhoods. "Nimby's" who scream in terror of the "SHADOWS" are proof of that.

The growth of sub divisions all around London are also proof that folks want their detached houses and lots and their 2 plus vehicles in their 2 car garages. These folks will not be riding the LTC and BRT.

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Hamilton isn't smaller than London. It's actually bigger in terms of population, by a substantial margin. The Census Metropolitan Area (CMA) population is 745K; the actual city population is 539K.

Hamilton's actual urban area covers 220 square kilometres, while London has 232 km², making London slightly larger. Hamilton's Metro area, which includes undeveloped land and farmland, covers 1311km², while London has 2662km².

So Hamilton is much more densely population, but its urban area is about the same as London's.

When I lived briefly in Hamilton from early 1991 until late 1992, I always felt it had a more compact feel than London. The city's longitudinal layout along the south shore of Lake Ontario probably allowed it to build much better in-city expressways, while London, rather strangely, has yet to build (and probably never will build) a true in-city expressway. Perhaps the expressways in Hamilton account for the more compact layout.
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DENSITY needs good transit to be viable.
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If you build it they (density) will come.
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New Mayor should lower the speed limit in the inner city neighbourhood streets.

I wish Matt Brown would have stayed on for one more term. We need more leaders that step up in case like the "Slow Down" campaigns in city's inner neighbourhoods. I hope the new mayor (Paul Cheng or whoever he or she will be) would consider continuing this forward and maybe one day push for lower than 50 km/h speed signs within our neighbourhood courts and crescents and quieter streets. There is no need for people to do the same limit as on Adelaide st. inside a quiet neighbourhood.

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Let's look at this way:

Which needs the other the most?

All thru human history we have had density without any transit.

Transit on the other hand depends on there being density to be viable.

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All thru human history we have had density without any 4-laned highways. and somehow we need 4-laned highways to have suburbia.
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Suburbia is a creation of the personal vehicle which begat the highways. Which resulted in the hollowing out of urban centres as people moved out to live the dream of the large house and lot with the white picket fence and 2 car garage.

Urban sprawl is a result of the invention of the car. Until such time as the personal vehicle is beyond the reach of the avg person the reality is what it is.

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Let the City Election race begin...

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