Tempe Development Thread

[ASUSunDevil]

Originally Posted by azsunsurfer

The new paint scheme looks MUCH BETTER. I'll take it even if I am in the minority. You all can enjoy your desert tan that will be the color of the Grand Broadstone box going up behind it.

+1

Broadstone @ The Grand won't be bad, it's more of an off-white. Looks like they're putting another Broadstone on McDowell as well (Papago).

http://orbarch.com/index.php/mies_portfolio/on-the-boards/

[azsunsurfer]

Which renderings were those?

[asugrad]

Originally Posted by Obadno

I was driving around Tempe yesterday to look at the construction after flying in from out of town.

I have to say it was one of the first times flying in and seeing all of the cranes that Phoenix truly felt as big as it is to me.

That being said, The Grande at RIO has a lot of construction going, it looks like they are building the apartments and the 1st office building at the same time. The Union and Maribella + the potential additional towers are really going to change Tempe and Mill

They are painting the Lofts at Rio Solado and ...its not a an improvement. I am a fan of moving away from brown and tan Stucco, but that doesn't mean it always looks bad. They are painting it like grey-blue and green and it looks ...not good. This is a case where the brown is better.

Tempe really loosened their rules on color the building color schemes in the last 8 years or so. The Mark on Terrace and Lemon got in a battle with the city of Tempe because of their Lime Green color and so did the owner of the complex across the street with the Purple doors. Before the building color rules were basically all shades of tan and earth colors and white. I believe it ended up in court and the judge threw it out because he didn't want to waste city and time money on something like that.

[ASUSunDevil]

https://azbigmedia.com/lincoln-breaks-ground-on-the-grand-building-two/

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by asugrad

Tempe really loosened their rules on color the building color schemes in the last 8 years or so. The Mark on Terrace and Lemon got in a battle with the city of Tempe because of their Lime Green color and so did the owner of the complex across the street with the Purple doors. Before the building color rules were basically all shades of tan and earth colors and white. I believe it ended up in court and the judge threw it out because he didn't want to waste city and time money on something like that.

I'm OK with Lime Green...but Purples and Pinks

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by ASUSunDevil

https://azbigmedia.com/lincoln-breaks-ground-on-the-grand-building-two/

I do not believe I have seen that rendering yet (even though I have not followed up on the Grande lately), but I noticed the waterfall feature is still there. Has is been confirmed they are still building that? I know there was a debate about it getting built or not a while back.

[Jjs5056]

The Hayden is the type of project Tempe should expect proposed anywhere downtown as infill; hi-rise, high-end mixed uses, and commercial space. Student housing is necessary, but it's clearly cannibalized residential dev throughout DT Tempe. If the proposed towers on College/Uni come back as a mix of student/family + mixed rate, that would be a major shift in the right direction for College, which was looking like it would be filled N-S with student-related dev. Tempe council still stinks, though; letting Maple-Ash dictate development demand in a landlocked DT was a big mistake. Now, the downzoning and single-use townhomes will prevent a midrise, mixed use street from developing.

For everyone who hated me for complaining about projects like Center Station, I say "Union Tempe." If you have one block in a downtown, do you build a garage, gated roadway, and single-use tower OR two residential towers, a fantastic hotel brand, and 4-sided activation? Hayden and Union are the first true mixed use spaces beyond the Palomar tower and Union gets Tempe downtown residents, activates Uni and 7th, and a very attractive brand I thought would be a great fit for both Tempe and RRow. A shame nobody seems interested in making The Brickyard work after all this time? It is perfect for anchor retail; all of the early mixed-use attempts need some love- Brickyard, Centerpoint (Hanover screwed it, but no reason the first floor isn't filled), Hayden Square (why was it ever okay to do a 1/2-level garage along the entirety of your DT frontage?)...

Not surprised the Stadium District has not taken off; none of ASU's visions ever do. After ~20 years, they are finally building a senior-living complex on Mill/Uni, College will be a permanent hole (I would love to see the Birchett House adapted, retail opening onto the canopy, etc.). The SD, though, could have been a crusher for this rush of dev in DT; it simply cannot coexist with a booming DT given the distances, and the designs which all featured inward-focused activity.

Mirabella would have been a perfect use of ASU's PBC lots in Phoenix, BTW. Medical services, diversifying population, cultural/public activation, density, height, and uses beyond clinical... sigh. Meanwhile, Tempe's BioCampus plans seem to be a big miss. Attract Biomed companies to projects like 100 Mill; a campus dedicated to a single use is totally suburban, clashes with the surrounding area, and will not compete with the two PBCs. This land would have been great for arts-related education, live/work units, collab space, and an anchor Museum or Hall.

[phoenixwillrise]

Originally Posted by Jjs5056

The Hayden is the type of project Tempe should expect proposed anywhere downtown as infill; hi-rise, high-end mixed uses, and commercial space. Student housing is necessary, but it's clearly cannibalized residential dev throughout DT Tempe. If the proposed towers on College/Uni come back as a mix of student/family + mixed rate, that would be a major shift in the right direction for College, which was looking like it would be filled N-S with student-related dev. Tempe council still stinks, though; letting Maple-Ash dictate development demand in a landlocked DT was a big mistake. Now, the downzoning and single-use townhomes will prevent a midrise, mixed use street from developing.

For everyone who hated me for complaining about projects like Center Station, I say "Union Tempe." If you have one block in a downtown, do you build a garage, gated roadway, and single-use tower OR two residential towers, a fantastic hotel brand, and 4-sided activation? Hayden and Union are the first true mixed use spaces beyond the Palomar tower and Union gets Tempe downtown residents, activates Uni and 7th, and a very attractive brand I thought would be a great fit for both Tempe and RRow. A shame nobody seems interested in making The Brickyard work after all this time? It is perfect for anchor retail; all of the early mixed-use attempts need some love- Brickyard, Centerpoint (Hanover screwed it, but no reason the first floor isn't filled), Hayden Square (why was it ever okay to do a 1/2-level garage along the entirety of your DT frontage?)...

Not surprised the Stadium District has not taken off; none of ASU's visions ever do. After ~20 years, they are finally building a senior-living complex on Mill/Uni, College will be a permanent hole (I would love to see the Birchett House adapted, retail opening onto the canopy, etc.). The SD, though, could have been a crusher for this rush of dev in DT; it simply cannot coexist with a booming DT given the distances, and the designs which all featured inward-focused activity.

Mirabella would have been a perfect use of ASU's PBC lots in Phoenix, BTW. Medical services, diversifying population, cultural/public activation, density, height, and uses beyond clinical... sigh. Meanwhile, Tempe's BioCampus plans seem to be a big miss. Attract Biomed companies to projects like 100 Mill; a campus dedicated to a single use is totally suburban, clashes with the surrounding area, and will not compete with the two PBCs. This land would have been great for arts-related education, live/work units, collab space, and an anchor Museum or Hall.

WOW! You have no clue who Michael Crow is if you think that stadium district will not happen on and near the ASU Campus. Also your comment on Mirabella Senior Living Project will be hole. Are you freaking kidding me? Check the status of the per cent already leased and get back to us. This project, again an innovative first of it's kind by Michael Crow, is going to be huge success and the units are not cheap but are being leased at an incredible rate. Please save your negative vibes for some other city and or university, you are so off base it isn't even funny.

[azsunsurfer]

Originally Posted by Jjs5056

The Hayden is the type of project Tempe should expect proposed anywhere downtown as infill; hi-rise, high-end mixed uses, and commercial space. Student housing is necessary, but it's clearly cannibalized residential dev throughout DT Tempe. If the proposed towers on College/Uni come back as a mix of student/family + mixed rate, that would be a major shift in the right direction for College, which was looking like it would be filled N-S with student-related dev. Tempe council still stinks, though; letting Maple-Ash dictate development demand in a landlocked DT was a big mistake. Now, the downzoning and single-use townhomes will prevent a midrise, mixed use street from developing.

For everyone who hated me for complaining about projects like Center Station, I say "Union Tempe." If you have one block in a downtown, do you build a garage, gated roadway, and single-use tower OR two residential towers, a fantastic hotel brand, and 4-sided activation? Hayden and Union are the first true mixed use spaces beyond the Palomar tower and Union gets Tempe downtown residents, activates Uni and 7th, and a very attractive brand I thought would be a great fit for both Tempe and RRow. A shame nobody seems interested in making The Brickyard work after all this time? It is perfect for anchor retail; all of the early mixed-use attempts need some love- Brickyard, Centerpoint (Hanover screwed it, but no reason the first floor isn't filled), Hayden Square (why was it ever okay to do a 1/2-level garage along the entirety of your DT frontage?)...

Not surprised the Stadium District has not taken off; none of ASU's visions ever do. After ~20 years, they are finally building a senior-living complex on Mill/Uni, College will be a permanent hole (I would love to see the Birchett House adapted, retail opening onto the canopy, etc.). The SD, though, could have been a crusher for this rush of dev in DT; it simply cannot coexist with a booming DT given the distances, and the designs which all featured inward-focused activity.

Mirabella would have been a perfect use of ASU's PBC lots in Phoenix, BTW. Medical services, diversifying population, cultural/public activation, density, height, and uses beyond clinical... sigh. Meanwhile, Tempe's BioCampus plans seem to be a big miss. Attract Biomed companies to projects like 100 Mill; a campus dedicated to a single use is totally suburban, clashes with the surrounding area, and will not compete with the two PBCs. This land would have been great for arts-related education, live/work units, collab space, and an anchor Museum or Hall.

Even though I am no special pleader for Michael Crow, I find these comments to be counter productive. Moderator?? lol

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by azsunsurfer

Even though I am no special pleader for Michael Crow, I find these comments to be counter productive. Moderator?? lol

lol the boards were so much better when Jjs was lurking

[combusean]

^ This is getting borderline trolling, although it's not unintentional, elaborate, on topic, and not breaking other rules.

What makes this trolling is how uninformed it is and seems to be designed to get a reaction.

I was about to tear that post apart but everything from Mirabella on the PBC lots that ASU doesn't even have anything to do with to the infeasibility of mixed-use biotech or development on Rio that is clearly not on a pedestrian street makes me wonder if I'd have more luck demonstrating why the sky isn't green.

Jjs, this is getting old already.

[muertecaza]

Phase II of the Hayden Flour Mill is going through entitlements.

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

Phase II of the Hayden Flour Mill is going through entitlements.

Cool! Phase I consisted of adding a one-story addition to the flour mill building. Did this happen already?

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by airomero83

Cool! Phase I consisted of adding a one-story addition to the flour mill building. Did this happen already?

Nope--no action so far. Not sure why they split of the entitlement process if they weren't gonna start working on the first Phase before entitling the second phase.

[muertecaza]

Park Place (SE and SW corner of Apache/Terrace) has applied for a building permit I like this project as it's reasonably dense, has a small frontage on Apache (as opposed to the monolithic Nexa or proposed Gilbane project), good retail on the frontage it does have, the sky-bridge that I'm a sucker for and a cool little plaza on the SEC of Apache/Terrace

If/when this is built, and if the Gilbane project on the north side of Apache is built, the stretch of Apache from Terrace to Rural will be one of the better stretches in the valley of dense street-facing residential development with ground floor retail that's actually leased. Not holding my breath for the Super 8, Holiday Inn or Pete's to be redeveloped, but it would be awesome if someone could pick those off too. Just between the projects that are there + Nexa, you have a solid base of residents along the streetcar line that can use it to go downtown. I wish there were more development opportunities along the streetcar line between Rural and University, but I don't see many. Maybe the ASU and Graduate surface lots, but even those would likely be a fight given that they back up to University Park SFHs.

[muertecaza]

DRC recommended approval for the Collective and the Gilbane project.

http://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=63306

Some tidbits from the hearing: Core, the Collective developer, apparently sees their 'Collective' brand as geared toward the much sought after 'young professional' crowd in educational markets. So not really student housing, which is nice. They also seem to have interesting ideas, including 5 building owned cars available to residents to reduce car dependence. Despite this, it's frustrating that City staff gave them a lot of grief over their efforts to reduce parking in the project. They proposed about .5 spaces per unit, and said they would have fewer spaces if they could. But City staff wanted them to have .75 spaces per unit. Luckily, the DRC recommended approval without the City staff's proposed stipulation regarding increased parking. Hopefully City Council views it the same way.

[Mr.RE]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

DRC recommended approval for the Collective and the Gilbane project.

http://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=63306

Some tidbits from the hearing: Core, the Collective developer, apparently sees their 'Collective' brand as geared toward the much sought after 'young professional' crowd in educational markets. So not really student housing, which is nice. They also seem to have interesting ideas, including 5 building owned cars available to residents to reduce car dependence. Despite this, it's frustrating that City staff gave them a lot of grief over their efforts to reduce parking in the project. They proposed about .5 spaces per unit, and said they would have fewer spaces if they could. But City staff wanted them to have .75 spaces per unit. Luckily, the DRC recommended approval without the City staff's proposed stipulation regarding increased parking. Hopefully City Council views it the same way.

Hello, New member here.
Im glad to see both developments being pushed forward. I drive by near the collective quite frequently and with the Union and Westin going in, the landscape will really change around there. Hopefully the Hayden and the 7th St and Forest project will be move quickly. That area will be mostly 20+ story sky scrapers which will transform the area into a true downtown atmosphere. Im looking forward to seeing the Gilbane and Park Place projects develop. Finally Apache wont be so worn down along the light rail and near ASU.

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by Mr.RE

Hello, New member here.
Im glad to see both developments being pushed forward. I drive by near the collective quite frequently and with the Union and Westin going in, the landscape will really change around there. Hopefully the Hayden and the 7th St and Forest project will be move quickly. That area will be mostly 20+ story sky scrapers which will transform the area into a true downtown atmosphere. Im looking forward to seeing the Gilbane and Park Place projects develop. Finally Apache wont be so worn down along the light rail and near ASU.

Welcome! Agree on all points. Exciting things in Tempe.

[fawd]

Originally Posted by Mr.RE

Hello, New member here.
Im glad to see both developments being pushed forward. I drive by near the collective quite frequently and with the Union and Westin going in, the landscape will really change around there. Hopefully the Hayden and the 7th St and Forest project will be move quickly. That area will be mostly 20+ story sky scrapers which will transform the area into a true downtown atmosphere. Im looking forward to seeing the Gilbane and Park Place projects develop. Finally Apache wont be so worn down along the light rail and near ASU.

Hello!

[Mr.RE]

Hello!
So i heard some rumors that Monte's on Rio Salado and Mill ave was opening up again and I knew that the new One Hundred Mill site with the office and Kimpton hotel was slated to land there. Does anyone have updates on where that development stands at the moment?

http://onehundredmillavenue.com/
Website posted for reference.