NHL season 2017/2018 - Page 86

Denscity · #**1701** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 3:04 AM**

#22 gets his 22nd goal of the season assist to #33 at :33 of the 2nd period haha!

HomeInMyShoes · #**1702** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 5:39 AM**

New Jersey!

Denscity · #**1703** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 6:35 AM**

Storeybook ending

khabibulin · #**1704** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 2:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by khabibulin

Right now, I think that the standings for the Canadian teams are the exact opposite of what the majority of SSP hockey thread posters would have predicted at the beginning of the season.

By the end of the season....who knows?

This earlier post was from November 14. So who would have predicted the Jets in 2nd place in the league standings with 1 game to go? Only 3 points behind the President's Trophy winners?

Jets have got to be the biggest surprise (to the upside) of all the Canadian teams. Leafs (7th in the league) are probably where most NHL fans expected them to be. All the other Canadian teams have been epic fails, nowhere meeting expectations (except maybe Vancouver who no one expected much from). Four teams as bottom dwellers, and Calgary (20th in the league) was a bubble team until the last 3 weeks, going 1 - 9.

Lets get ready for some "2nd season" hockey in Winnipeg and Toronto!!!

Jammon · #**1705** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 3:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by khabibulin

This earlier post was from November 14. So who would have predicted the Jets in 2nd place in the league standings with 1 game to go? Only 3 points behind the President's Trophy winners?

Jets have got to be the biggest surprise (to the upside) of all the Canadian teams. Leafs (7th in the league) are probably where most NHL fans expected them to be. All the other Canadian teams have been epic fails, nowhere meeting expectations (except maybe Vancouver who no one expected much from). Four teams as bottom dwellers, and Calgary (20th in the league) was a bubble team until the last 3 weeks, going 1 - 9.

Lets get ready for some "2nd season" hockey in Winnipeg and Toronto!!!

I agree. Edmonton was by far, the biggest fail from where they landed last season. I thought, for sure, that this was their breakout year and they would have a legitimate shot at the cup. Calgary is good on paper, but somehow their acquisitions didn't work out (Hamonic comes to mind). I personally feel that Montreal was one of those teams that often punched above their weight solely because of Price. I always felt that if he was sub-par or injured over a long stretch that the Habs would suffer. I was right on that one.

Ottawa is also a bit of a mystery, especially after last season. Huge playoff run and then hit the skids this season with a fire sale of their best players. It's a shame, because aside from the Jets, the Sens have always been my favourite other Canadian team. Looks like they may have a few years of instability with Melnyk running the show.

DoubleK · #**1706** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 3:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

New Jersey!

Amazing what a #1 overall draft pick can do for a franchise.

JHikka · #**1707** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 3:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

Amazing what a #1 overall draft pick can do for a franchise.

You mean trading for a former #1 overall pick, right?

Andy6 · #**1708** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 4:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jammon

I agree. Edmonton was by far, the biggest fail from where they landed last season. I thought, for sure, that this was their breakout year and they would have a legitimate shot at the cup. Calgary is good on paper, but somehow their acquisitions didn't work out (Hamonic comes to mind). I personally feel that Montreal was one of those teams that often punched above their weight solely because of Price. I always felt that if he was sub-par or injured over a long stretch that the Habs would suffer. I was right on that one.

Ottawa is also a bit of a mystery, especially after last season. Huge playoff run and then hit the skids this season with a fire sale of their best players. It's a shame, because aside from the Jets, the Sens have always been my favourite other Canadian team. Looks like they may have a few years of instability with Melnyk running the show.

I would say the Jets and Leafs are each 4 or 5 spots ahead of where I’d have predicted. That the rest of the teams sank like stones is the biggest surprise to me. The poor performances by so many Canadian teams, year after year, can’t be a coincidence.

JHikka · #**1709** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 4:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Andy6

The poor performances by so many Canadian teams, year after year, can’t be a coincidence.

All of the non-playoff clubs are poorly managed. Like, exceptionally poorly managed.

Vancouver should have rebuilt five years ago and sold the Sedins while they had value. Poor drafting.
Calgary traded everything away for win now and didn't win now. Team culture seems off.
Edmonton got too big and too slow. GM can't make trades and makes poor signings.
Ottawa's owner is cheap.
Montreal should be rebuilding, trying to go after something they can't achieve. Asset management has been laughably bad.

The Jets and Leafs have been the best managed teams in the country for the past few years and it plainly shows.

esquire · #**1710** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 4:32 PM**

^ Edmonton's situation is kind of scary, that team has had so many massive young stars and with the way things are going they might just have that one playoff run to show for it. How do the Jets minimize the likelihood of that scenario once young guys on entry contracts are negotiating deals that would swallow up a massive amount of cap room and they inevitably have to get rid of a few of them?

drew · #**1711** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 5:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ Edmonton's situation is kind of scary, that team has had so many massive young stars and with the way things are going they might just have that one playoff run to show for it. How do the Jets minimize the likelihood of that scenario once young guys on entry contracts are negotiating deals that would swallow up a massive amount of cap room and they inevitably have to get rid of a few of them?

Hope to God that next season Helle doesn't regress like Talbot did this season

suburbanite · #**1712** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 5:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ Edmonton's situation is kind of scary, that team has had so many massive young stars and with the way things are going they might just have that one playoff run to show for it. How do the Jets minimize the likelihood of that scenario once young guys on entry contracts are negotiating deals that would swallow up a massive amount of cap room and they inevitably have to get rid of a few of them?

Really the only way to ensure long-term success in today's NHL is to have top-end scouting and development. It's inevitable that as a team experiences success, certain players will step up and subsequently require a salary that cannot be met by the team under the cap. Think about Chicago between 2010-2016 who basically lost a core player every year, but always had someone ready to make the jump from the AHL or the draft and immediately make an impact.

So far the best formula for a cup run (apart from drafting Sidney Crosby and having him take $4 million less than he's worth) is combining players who massively outperform their ELC's with a solid core of experienced players and a solid goaltender.

DoubleK · #**1713** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 5:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

You mean trading for a former #1 overall pick, right?

It's actually both!!!

And have your afterthought backup goaltender be an absolute stud.

J.OT13 · #**1714** Posted **Apr 6, 2018, 8:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denscity

Sedins' final home game is tonight and I got to thinking if any of the other Canadian teams got to celebrate their star player's last home game without the player leaving for another team?

Iginla R Smith Selanne Sundin Alfredsson Koivu?

Nope and that's too bad for the other fan bases because they deserve the honour.

Losing Alfredsson was a huge blow to the Ottawa Senators and the fan base, all because they wouldn't pay market value for a player that had been taking a home-town discount for over a decade. Hoping the same doesn't happen with Karlsson, though I wouldn't blame him if he decided to up and leave on his own.

Dalreg · #**1715** Posted **Apr 7, 2018, 9:40 AM**

Not NHL, but hockey related.

http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local...-highway-crash

Mrs Sauga · #**1716** Posted **Apr 7, 2018, 2:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

All of the non-playoff clubs are poorly managed. Like, exceptionally poorly managed.

Vancouver should have rebuilt five years ago and sold the Sedins while they had value. Poor drafting.
Calgary traded everything away for win now and didn't win now. Team culture seems off.
Edmonton got too big and too slow. GM can't make trades and makes poor signings.
Ottawa's owner is cheap.
Montreal should be rebuilding, trying to go after something they can't achieve. Asset management has been laughably bad.

The Jets and Leafs have been the best managed teams in the country for the past few years and it plainly shows.

Agreed. For some reason Canadian teams have bad people running the teams. Even the Leafs belong in that list up until Shanahan took over. The question is WHY? Ottawa and Montreal can be ignored here. One has a cheap owner, the other has language politics. But why are Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, and previously Toronto so prone to bad management? Is it because the teams make money regardless so there is less incentive/motivation to do better? Winnipeg, on the other hand, wasn't doing good in the beginning but they were living off the "new team" high. Now that that's worn off, I guess they know they have to try harder because they have the history of relocation?

It's funny how the salary cap was suppose to help Canadian teams from losing all their stars to American teams yet it hasn't helped a Canadian team win the cup in this era.

lio45 · #**1717** Posted **Apr 7, 2018, 3:06 PM**

I haven't paid attention to the NHL this year at all... now I am noticing there's a brand new team ("Golden Knights") ... and they're at the top of their division?!?

Rollerstud98 · #**1718** Posted **Apr 7, 2018, 3:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dalreg

Not NHL, but hockey related.

http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local...-highway-crash

One player on that team is from my town, thankfully he has survived although he may be paralyzed.

Andy6 · #**1719** Posted **Apr 7, 2018, 3:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by lio45

I haven't paid attention to the NHL this year at all... now I am noticing there's a brand new team ("Golden Knights") ... and they're at the top of their division?!?

Yes, the Quebec City Golden Knights.

lio45 · #**1720** Posted **Apr 7, 2018, 4:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Andy6

Yes, the Quebec City Golden Knights.

I have no idea whether attendance has been good or not in such an unlikely place as Vegas for a hockey team, but I can promise that if we had a new team AND it was sitting at the very top of its division heading into the playoffs, the arena would always be as packed as a sardine box