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Old Posted Mar 28, 2018, 1:14 PM
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I had a chat about the former city hall with Bernie Wolfe years ago, and according to him, the structural issues were exaggerated to warrant demolishing it so they could build the “modern” city hall others wanted.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2018, 5:35 PM
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Alternate design and location for the modern city hall.

The proposed complex was to be across the street from the Legislative building.

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Old Posted Mar 29, 2018, 6:12 PM
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^ That isn't bad.

I wonder what the long term plan is for City Hall? As it stands the municipal government goes way beyond what can be accommodated in the small pre-unicity civic centre complex. There are entire office complexes filled with civic staff, like the Mandarin Building (across from City Hall), the Confederation Building and the Bank of Hamilton on Main, and everyone's favourite, Fort Garry Place.

I wonder if any of those sites would ever be consolidated? The idea of anchoring the Marketlands with, say, a 10 to 15 storey civic office building to house PP&D and another department has some appeal. It would probably make it that much easier to market the rest of the site.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2018, 6:28 PM
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^ That isn't bad.

I wonder what the long term plan is for City Hall? As it stands the municipal government goes way beyond what can be accommodated in the small pre-unicity civic centre complex. There are entire office complexes filled with civic staff, like the Mandarin Building (across from City Hall), the Confederation Building and the Bank of Hamilton on Main, and everyone's favourite, Fort Garry Place.

I wonder if any of those sites would ever be consolidated? The idea of anchoring the Marketlands with, say, a 10 to 15 storey civic office building to house PP&D and another department has some appeal. It would probably make it that much easier to market the rest of the site.
I can only imagine the screeching cries of terror that would come from the vocal fiscal hawks in this city if a new building for civic employees was ever proposed. If the proposed building was anything more than a windowless concrete bunker, I'm certain there would be rioting in the streets.

"As a taxpayer, public sector employees should only be given the bare minimum to do their job. 20 year old recycled equipment and computers bought second hand from the private sector and a concrete cubicle with fluorescent lighting is all that is needed for those on the public dime to do their job properly. Anything else is a waste of my tax dollars." - Most Winnipeggers, probably.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2018, 6:39 PM
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^ I'm not sure how much the City is paying for Confed/Hamilton/Fort Garry Place, but I doubt it's a rock bottom fire sale price. I'm a little more sympathetic to Confed/Hamilton since the city basically kept the lights on in those buildings when they were vulnerable, but I doubt anyone cares about FGP. Move them out of there and into a civic building by City Hall!
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2018, 6:48 PM
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I can think of a certain location that the City currently owns, housed City staff, but is planning on demolishing. Directly adjacent to current City Hall.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2018, 7:53 PM
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Only replace "Edmonton Tower" with "Winnipeg Tower" and place it on the Mitchell Bldg site at Portage and Main. All departments under one roof.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2018, 2:34 AM
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^ I'm not sure how much the City is paying for Confed/Hamilton/Fort Garry Place, but I doubt it's a rock bottom fire sale price. I'm a little more sympathetic to Confed/Hamilton since the city basically kept the lights on in those buildings when they were vulnerable, but I doubt anyone cares about FGP. Move them out of there and into a civic building by City Hall!
Didn'y Shindico and Sam bust open the lease for the Confed 5 years early and sign a 40 year lease or something? I'm sure I heard that. Likely here.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2018, 2:50 AM
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^ That isn't bad.

I wonder what the long term plan is for City Hall? As it stands the municipal government goes way beyond what can be accommodated in the small pre-unicity civic centre complex. There are entire office complexes filled with civic staff, like the Mandarin Building (across from City Hall), the Confederation Building and the Bank of Hamilton on Main, and everyone's favourite, Fort Garry Place.

I wonder if any of those sites would ever be consolidated? The idea of anchoring the Marketlands with, say, a 10 to 15 storey civic office building to house PP&D and another department has some appeal. It would probably make it that much easier to market the rest of the site.
Or better yet. Bulldoze the rest of those god ugly buildings and leave the exchange alone.
Lots of parking lots south or Portage for them to move to. Hmmmmm, WCB parking lot would be perfect.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2018, 7:16 PM
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^ I'm not sure how much the City is paying for Confed/Hamilton/Fort Garry Place, but I doubt it's a rock bottom fire sale price. I'm a little more sympathetic to Confed/Hamilton since the city basically kept the lights on in those buildings when they were vulnerable, but I doubt anyone cares about FGP. Move them out of there and into a civic building by City Hall!
I've always found it interesting that two of the most ambitious mixed-use projects in Winnipeg's history (FGP and Portage Place) are two of the most vilified.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2018, 1:10 AM
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Gut wrenching every time i see photos of these beautiful buildings that were destroyed and replaced with mediocrity. Imagine Portage and Main and Portage Ave with no Portage Place if these buildings still remained, it would truly be such a grand beautiful boulevard.

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Gut wrenching every time i see photos of these beautiful buildings that were destroyed and replaced with mediocrity. Imagine Portage and Main and Portage Ave with no Portage Place if these buildings still remained, it would truly be such a grand beautiful boulevard.
Well, that one burned down. But in general I take your point.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2018, 1:23 PM
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I love the lights on the Vendome...we need more of this downtown.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2018, 7:56 PM
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Wonder what ever happened to the Vendome being part of a development.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/vendome-hotel-1.3781621
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2018, 8:15 PM
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I love the lights on the Vendome...we need more of this downtown.
The Vendome sign is on the Vendome, with a simple line of lights on the recently removed cornice.

The really elaborate light display is on the building next door, where the Fort Street Clinic now stands.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2018, 8:20 PM
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^^^ahhh, good eye. Well I want that one then.
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