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[Aroundtheworld]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

yea I guess but park n rides not just parking lots. Portland and seattle have huge park n rides at almost every outlying station

Those systems also have much lower ridership. Honestly, in virtually all cases it's much better to just develop near a transit station. Parking may also become obsolete within our generation.

[Firebrand]

Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld

Those systems also have much lower ridership. Honestly, in virtually all cases it's much better to just develop near a transit station. Parking may also become obsolete within our generation.

Calgary and Edmonton also have a lot of Park ‘n’ Rides at every station. I don’t recall a single station in Edmonton that doesn’t have a Park ‘n’ Ride.

These two cities are virtually suburban country, and they’re still sprawling outward. Even if you put development near stations, their large parking area requirements—especially if it’s surface parking—defeats the purpose of “easy access” to stations. Parking may be obsolete in Vancouver, Seattle and Portland, but I don’t see it going away in Calgary and Edmonton.

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld

Those systems also have much lower ridership. Honestly, in virtually all cases it's much better to just develop near a transit station. Parking may also become obsolete within our generation.

I understand that it's just that this burquitlam proposal is I think the first development that will have a purpose built park n ride in the development.

[Pinion]

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[LeftCoaster]

Cadillac Fairview and Shape Properties have launched the website today for their upcoming major development at CF Richmond Centre.

Lots more info to come.

http://liveatcfrc.com/

Probably worth it's own thread at some point if anyone has the time.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Cadillac Fairview and Shape Properties have launched the website today for their upcoming major development at CF Richmond Centre.

Lots more info to come.

http://liveatcfrc.com/

Probably worth it's own thread at some point if anyone has the time.

That's great!! I like this one. Although I wish they would do something with the mall roof. Make it green space or something would be better than leaving it some baron roof top

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

That's great!! I like this one. Although I wish they would do something with the mall roof. Make it green space or something would be better than leaving it some baron roof top

Are they building around the existing mall or rebuilding it (I haven't been following Richmond developments that much). If they're keeping the existing mall then I can see keeping the existing roof - but for a new build they should really do something up there, esp with all the residential surrounding it that'll get an oh so lovely view of it.

Then again that rendering does seem to be on the 'artistic' side. How tall can they safely build there? The towers look taller than what I would expect in Richmond, and like they can hold more than the 2000+ homes mentioned.

[SpongeG]

ir it going to be all retail at the street level for the towers?

this project and the Lansdowne one are going to have so much retail, can it get filled?

[officedweller]

Looking forward to the Richmond Centre project, thanks.
Too bad they weren't more creative with the layout of the residential buildings.

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618 Carnarvon, New West

This 33 storey (350 ft) tower will enclose the SkyTrain Guideway as it transitions from elevated to tunnel near Columbia Station.
There is already a condo tower to the east (Quantum) that straddles the SkyTrain tunnel.


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[Metro-One]

107 meters, not bad.

Will definitely help fill out downtown New West.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

ahhhh nice, covering SkyTrain guideway.

[Metro-One]

I think it is covering the portal where it dives underground.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I think it is covering the portal where it dives underground.

it looks like it stretches the whole length of the property line. which i like. more of that the better. you get useful green space, less noise, and all the perks of rapid transit. whats not to like?

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

That's great!! I like this one. Although I wish they would do something with the mall roof. Make it green space or something would be better than leaving it some baron roof top

The existing structure is not really built to handle that kind of load. Perhaps something will be done in the future, but it's no small task.

Originally Posted by Sheba

Are they building around the existing mall or rebuilding it (I haven't been following Richmond developments that much). If they're keeping the existing mall then I can see keeping the existing roof - but for a new build they should really do something up there, esp with all the residential surrounding it that'll get an oh so lovely view of it.

Then again that rendering does seem to be on the 'artistic' side. How tall can they safely build there? The towers look taller than what I would expect in Richmond, and like they can hold more than the 2000+ homes mentioned.

The existing mall will be retained. It's one of the top 10 highest performing malls in Canada so keeping the operations there humming along smoothly while completing this development will be a full time job!

Towers are the same height as everything else in Richmond!

Originally Posted by SpongeG

ir it going to be all retail at the street level for the towers?

this project and the Lansdowne one are going to have so much retail, can it get filled?

There will be street front retail of course, it is a mall after all! Some streetfronts that are less retail attractive will also see townhomes.

Lansdowne is actually a long ways away from its retail phase so given the eventual build out population of Richmond it should be all good.

Originally Posted by officedweller

Looking forward to the Richmond Centre project, thanks.
Too bad they weren't more creative with the layout of the residential buildings.

Not much you can do with that pesky NavCan height limit. The project is essentially 12 towers of 15-20 storeys in height laid down on their sides!

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

we really need a Richmond only thread. i know someone on here was working on it but is that still going on?

there is so much going on in Richmond now, it is crazy.

[cganuelas1995]

Brighouse square is fenced off and getting demolished.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by cganuelas1995

Brighouse square is fenced off and getting demolished.

Another strip mall bites the dust. But how long will it stay an empty lot? The plot of land across the street from Landsdowne had been vacant for a long time now. These vacant lots are becoming a blight

[SkytrainCar026]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

we really need a Richmond only thread. i know someone on here was working on it but is that still going on?

there is so much going on in Richmond now, it is crazy.

I was working on one a year or so ago, but I left the forums for a while and forgot about it. I'll be willing to start one without too much documentation or detail; there are way too many projects in Richmond to go into the details on each one. Just to name a few...

In the city centre, there are 6 large "villages" (or city-designated areas) that are currently developing; each one has a dozen or so projects planned or UC.

Outside of the city centre area, there's many midrise developments in Steveston and in the Alexandra neighbourhoods, there's Hamilton, McLennan south (a large city block being densified with th's and new sfh's), and dozens of large townhouse developments along the arterials.

EDIT: The Surrey, Burnaby, North shore, and downtown threads don't have any of this documentation; I don't think it'll be too necessary.

[n a m]

http://urbanyvr.com/cf-richmond-centre-redevelopment


Richmond Centre mall revival: new homes, retail on the way
12 new residential towers will surround existing mall; open-air retail and plazas will be added

By Peter Meiszner - April 3, 2018

CF Richmond Centre Shape Properties redevelopment
Aerial of redevelopment of CF Richmond Centre by Shape Properties. Credit: Shape Living/Cadillac Fairview
Richmond Centre mall will be transformed into a mixed-use retail and residential district with over 1,800 homes, open-air retail, new public plazas and streets.

Cadillac Fairview, owners of CF Richmond Centre, have teamed up with Shape Properties and GBL Architects to redevelop the 27-acre site.

There will be 12 new residential towers along No. 3 Road, Minoru Boulevard and Park Road. Several new streets will link No. 3 Road with Minoru Boulevard.

Craig Patterson, editor-in-chief of Retail Insider, says the redevelopment is a brilliant move by Cadillac Fairview, considering the shopping centre’s location on rapid transit and changing transportation patterns.

“Intensifying the site with housing will unlock value on the property, which is currently a low-rise commercial building surrounded by parking lots,” he says. “Developing the property monetizes its value and while new parking will be built, the future of autonomous vehicles and enhanced transit may greatly reduce the need for vast parking components.”

The existing shopping centre in the centre of the development will remain for now, as the new buildings will be constructed on the surface parking lot surrounding the mall.

Patterson says adding residential buildings around the periphery of the mall makes sense, as central retail spaces can remain operational while construction progresses around it.

“At some point, the central mall could also see some sort of redevelopment, depending on the developer’s vision,” he says.

CF Richmond Centre Shape Properties redevelopment
CF Richmond Centre redevelopment. Credit: Shape Living/Cadillac Fairview
CF Richmond Centre Shape Properties redevelopment
CF Richmond Centre redevelopment. Credit: Shape Living/Cadillac Fairview
CF Richmond Centre Shape Properties redevelopment
CF Richmond Centre redevelopment. Credit: Shape Living/Cadillac Fairview
New retail spaces
Open-air shops, restaurants and entertainment venues will be added in the lower levels of the towers. Cadillac Fairview says this will transform CF Richmond Centre into a “world-class master-planned destination.”

Patterson says having a fashion mall as part of the property will be a bonus, and it’s likely that Cadillac Fairview will also add amenities that residents would utilize such as grocery, pharmacy, dry cleaners and other retailers.

“The centre is very well located within proximity to various other amenities and employment centres, and will make a wonderful place to live when it’s finished,” he says.

CF Richmond Centre Shape Properties redevelopment
The redevelopment will add open plazas and pedestrian friendly streets throughout the site. Credit: Shape Living/Cadillac Fairview
CF Richmond Centre Shape Properties redevelopment
Large central plaza. Credit: Shape Living/Cadillac Fairview
Residences at CF Richmond Centre
Homes at CF Richmond Centre are expected to be upscale, with features like air conditioning and Gaggenau appliances promised by the developer. Residents will have access to over 150,000 square feet of amenity space, including outdoor “sky gardens” on rooftops.

Previews of the development will begin Fall 2018, and a 8,500 sq.ft. presentation centre with two show homes is currently under construction, directly across the street from the Brighouse SkyTrain station.

Former Sears store, parkade to be demolished
Sears Richmond Centre
The former Sears department store at Richmond Centre. Credit: Google Maps
GBL Architects, on behalf of Cadillac Fairview and Shape Properties, applied to the City of Richmond last year to “build the first phase of a two-phase development, including the removal and replacement of part of the existing mall, infill of the existing surface parking lot with high rise, mixed use buildings, and the establishment of new streets linking No 3 Road with Minoru Boulevard.”

The Sears building and parkade will be demolished to make way for phase one.

Malls adding residential towers, open-air retail
Traditional indoor shopping centres, with their large surface parking lots and locations along rapid transit lines, are irresistible to residential developers.

“The Vancouver region is leading the country in adding residential to mall sites, given its constrained geography, land values and housing demand,” says Patterson.

“It is actually encouraged in many zoning regimes, which allow for mixed-uses and with buildings at substantially greater heights. Nearby Lansdowne Centre is an example — I was a consultant on the project and they appear to have taken my advice to demolish the centre for redevelopment, given potential density and overall financial benefits,” he added.

Lansdowne Centre
Concert Venue Lansdowne District
Outdoor concert venue at Lansdowne Centre. Credit: Vanprop Investments Ltd.
Lansdowne Centre will be transformed into a mixed-use residential, office and retail district over the next decade. The shopping centre’s 50-acre property will be home to up to 24 new towers, as well as a new five-acre city park. The development will be known as the Lansdowne District.

24 new towers proposed for Lansdowne Mall site in Richmond
Oakridge Centre
Oakridge redevelopment rendering transit hub
Rendering of the transit hub at the redevelopment of Oakridge Centre. Credit: QuadReal/Westbank
In Vancouver at Cambie and West 41st, Westbank has teamed up with QuadReal for a major redevelopment of Oakridge Centre, with up to 11 towers and lowrise buldings.

Oakridge redevelopment models show sculpted, sweeping towers
The redevelopment will add a 10-acre public park and 100,000 sq. ft civic centre, with a new library, daycare, seniors centre and community centre.

Oakridge’s retail component is planning for the future, with provisions made for e-commerce, including ‘five-star concierges’ who can deliver packages to cars and residences, reports Retail Insider.

The City of Lougheed
SkyTrain connection
The City of Lougheed redevelopment will connect the shopping centre and residential towers directly to SkyTrain. Credit: Shape Properties
Shape Properties is no stranger to transforming traditional shopping centres into mixed-use retail and residential districts.

The company is currently redeveloping Brentwood Town Centre and Lougheed Town Centre, known as “The Amazing Brentwood” and “The City of Lougheed” respectively.

City of Lougheed redevelopment includes 23 new towers, retail
The Amazing Brentwood
Aerial rendering
The Amazing Brentwood, a 28-acre master planned community at Brentwood Town Centre. Credit: Shape Properties
At Brentwood, Shape partnered with L Catterton Real Estate (LCRE), the real estate investment and development arm of LVMH Moet Hennessy-Louis Vuitton and its holding company Groupe Arnault, to develop the retail space.

Amazing Brentwood goes upscale in partnership with Louis Vuitton
Park Royal South
752 Marine Drive Park Royal West Vancouver redevelopment water feature
Water feature and plaza at new residential towers at Park Royal South. Credit: District of West Vancouver/DIALOG
Park Royal in West Vancouver will also see the addition of residential towers, although on a smaller scale. The 14-storey and 11-storey Gateway Residences will add over 200 new homes and ground floor retail to Park Royal South, on the former site of White Spot.

[officedweller]

Thanks.

Hadn't realized the redevelopment is in collaboration with Shape Properties.