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Old Posted Mar 7, 2018, 2:40 PM
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If you build it they will come.
If you build it properly it will flourish for years to come.

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Old Posted Mar 7, 2018, 3:21 PM
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I only hope so. Densification would be the holy grail for London, especially some of the bombed out areas adjacent to the core and in the Eastern parts.
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Regarding the north leg, I don't know why the fixation on Richmond. The city was already getting ready to re-do Wharncliffe north, I don't know why they didn't adjust those construction plans and use that. Then the buses can just come in at Alumni, which is where most of the people are going anyway, and the city doesn't have to build Western a new bridge.
Ridership, I'd imagine. A north leg along Wharncliffe really only services Western - there are few volume destinations along Wharncliffe otherwise. A Richmond route services the heart of the downtown commercial area, the hospital and shuttles Western students back and forth to Richmond Row.

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Also, doesn't the 8 per hour thing kind of limit the whole northern leg then? Sounds like a lot less service than "every few minutes" they are trying to sell us on now.
8 per hour is one bus every 7.5 minutes. I'd say that's every few minutes and it's certainly more frequent than what we see now.
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2018, 10:23 PM
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8 per hour is one bus every 7.5 minutes. I'd say that's every few minutes and it's certainly more frequent than what we see now.
Yep, I did the math on a follow on post after someone else said that route would be 5 minute service.
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Also I don't see the point of an BRT-only bridge at Western. Western is only going to allow 8 buses per direction per hour so it seems like a waste.
Which why should the city listen to them? I would say screw you Western, what are they really going to do if a few more buses are running an hour?
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2018, 7:55 PM
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Urban Gondola idea from city of Edmonton could be cheaper than LRT

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Make a lot of sense in high density urban settings where there is geographic obstacles like hills, water etc.

Portland has one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Aerial_Tram

Baton Rouge exploring it - http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/article_d4b0dece-1d40-5727-9127-3a3bb3f2c877.html

Austin not going with their idea thou - http://www.kxan.com/news/traffic/proposa...n-austin-will-not-move-forward/994849832

Being Texas and their love of big trucks killed it probably. Although they have a big water obstacle in the river that it could cross cheaper then another bridge.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2018, 12:46 PM
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Will $11B federal fund become BRT windfall?

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aul Cheng and Paul Paolatto, have slammed the plan and vowed to scrap it altogether, if elected. Incumbent Mayor Matt Brown is a well-known Shift backer.
Well, then I am voting for Matt Brown again.
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Agreed.
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Yeah I really hope Brown's affair doesn't cost him, I know some people will vote against him for that forgetting that at the end of the day he has been pretty damn good.

Certainly better than we've had in the past. He is actually looking to get things done not just talking, as much as I hate BRT it certainly is better than nothing and again it is something that can be built upon
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In my opinion Matt Brown isn't the best but so far he has my vote. I am open to ideas from the challengers with better ideas to move people in the city then the current rapid transit plan but I haven't heard anything.
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I was reluctant at first, but i do agree with most of you guys. Matt is probably the best for London's future right now. I hope he learns from past mistakes and improves going forward. He has my vote too.
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Just a reminder to everyone that the election doesn't begin until May (I think) so (hopefully) we'll have better options than either those two clowns or Brown's baggage. I still haven't forgiven Brown for giving up on LRT for his Queen's Park ambitions, but he's certainly better than Cheng or Poaletto.
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London is getting more than $204 million in federal transit funding, the same amount it needs to make its bus rapid transit system – the largest infrastructure project in city history – a reality.

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Isn't the L the one that will be going from Masonville, to downtown and out to Fanshawe? Going to pretty hard to run 5 minute service if the university is limiting you to 7 1/2 minutes (8 an hour). I was pretty sure I heard that a new bridge was in the plans, but those might have been older plans as well. That bridge is very old and doesn't allow 2 way traffic when one is a larger vehicle anymore either.
That's a good question about the "every 5 minutes" thing.. I have no idea, but the BRT plans to this day state that the route running from masonville to fanshawe college is going to have buses running every 5 minutes. As for the bridge, in one set of plans they did point out that they might or might not have to work on the existing bridge and upgrade it. There are also plans by the university to build a pedestrian bridge a bit south of there. So maybe one of these plans is what you're thinking of.

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Also, I'm not sure about any flood plain or anything limiting "densification" on Western/Wharncliffe between Alumni Circle and Riverside (meaning, I don't know, not that I'm disagreeing with you).
That was one of the "cons" of that route back when the city was still determining which routes to use for RT. Maybe it wasn't a "flood plain", but I remember reading something like that. Either way there's some sort of a protected area there that would prevent a RT corridor from attracting new developments.

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I'm also curious what they plan to do about parking at the north and south ends. They keep saying that they are going to use Masonville and White Oaks
There is going to be some parking spots lost at masonville, since they're gong to have to upgrade the existing bus terminal (or whatever you want to call it). I don't think they've yet figured out how they're going to replace those parking spots. There aren't really that many though, just looking at the blueprints
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2018, 2:42 PM
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Here is a link from a discussion on TVOs the Agenda about rapid transit in London. Talks about the past timeline, about people for and against it, the politics behind it and what other cities can learn from London's mistakes.

https://tvo.org/video/programs/the-agenda-with-steve-paikin/ontario-hubs-london-waits-for-the-bus
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CTV's story about rapid transit in Newmarket

https://london.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1352971
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