YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 636

Hot Rod · #**12701** Posted **Mar 18, 2018, 8:34 PM**

^ I think DEL is the main hub airport for India (like PEK for China), so it's far easier to fly into there and connect to the whole country opposed to BOM.

Hopefully Vancouver will legitimately get BOM someday (wouldn't Air India YVR-BOM be nice) if they meant Toronto. Interesting that Vancouver is more worldwide known as "Canada" than Toronto. hehe!

trofirhen · #**12702** Posted **Mar 18, 2018, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod

^ I think DEL is the main hub airport for India (like PEK for China), so it's far easier to fly into there and connect to the whole country opposed to BOM.

Hopefully Vancouver will legitimately get BOM someday (wouldn't Air India YVR-BOM be nice) if they meant Toronto. Interesting that Vancouver is more worldwide known as "Canada" than Toronto. hehe!

You are right, Hot Rod. I checked the numbers, and DEL pax (2016-2017) were 57,703,000 whith BOM at 45,145,000. BOM-YVR, if ever it existed, would probably have more business pax.
Also, I think that many Indo Canadians have roots in Central and Northern India, closer to Delhi than Bombay (Mumbai). So yes, YVR-DEL seems to make more sense for now.

Vagabond · #**12703** Posted **Mar 19, 2018, 4:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

You are right, Hot Rod. I checked the numbers, and DEL pax (2016-2017) were 57,703,000 whith BOM at 45,145,000. BOM-YVR, if ever it existed, would probably have more business pax.
Also, I think that many Indo Canadians have roots in Central and Northern India, closer to Delhi than Bombay (Mumbai). So yes, YVR-DEL seems to make more sense for now.

It's not a huge shock that India's aviation authorities get Canadian cities confused, as our own media reciprocates. As part of the Globe and Mail's coverage of Trudeau's recent trip, their editorial board published a piece which listed India's capital as Mumbai (and not New Delhi)! Needless to say, the connections between Canada and India are not nearly as well-established as our political elites like to pretend.

Johnny Aussie · #**12704** Posted **Mar 19, 2018, 10:03 PM**

YVR flew out of the starting gates...

http://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/...ry/january-2018-traffic-update.pdf?la=en

Overall up 8.2%
Domestic up 7.0%
International up 9.3%

Intl breakdown
Transborder up 11.0%
Asia Pacific up 6.0% (impressive with Chinese New Year in Feb this year)
Europe up 4.0%
Latin America up 17.6%

Cargo up 6.9%

Total International just 4,000 shy of 1,000,000 in the month!

zahav · #**12705** Posted **Mar 19, 2018, 10:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

YVR flew out of the starting gates...

http://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/...ry/january-2018-traffic-update.pdf?la=en

Overall up 8.2%
Domestic up 7.0%
International up 9.3%

Intl breakdown
Transborder up 11.0%
Asia Pacific up 6.0% (impressive with Chinese New Year in Feb this year)
Europe up 4.0%
Latin America up 17.6%

Cargo up 6.9%

Total International just 4,000 shy of 1,000,000 in the month!

I had actually Facebook messaged YVR this morning and asked about the stats not being posted yet, and this is what I got back:

1:26PM
The January traffic stats should be going up by the end of the day today!

I have a feeling someone forgot to post them haha!

Those are fantastic results. Maybe I misunderstood you, but I'm seeing total international at 1,036,626?

Post this over on the Canada thread too, since YUL and YYC were already up. We are ahead by a significant margin, they were 5.5% and 5.4% respectively.

osirisboy · #**12706** Posted **Mar 19, 2018, 10:37 PM**

The date printed on the January update was march 2nd! Nice to finally see it posted

Johnny meant scheduled international. So excluding charter. Which puts it just under a million

Johnny Aussie · #**12707** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 12:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by osirisboy

The date printed on the January update was march 2nd! Nice to finally see it posted

Johnny meant scheduled international. So excluding charter. Which puts it just under a million

Yes, but I should have said scheduled... but yeah total international flew past 1,000,000.

Here's the numbers growth instead of % growth.

Overall up 146,743 to 1,937,800
Domestic up 58,592 to 901,200
International up 88,151 to 1,036,600

That's really quite impressive growth in % and total aggregate numbers.

osirisboy · #**12708** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 12:27 AM**

Where does Australia fit in? Asia pacific or misc?

Johnny Aussie · #**12709** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 12:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by osirisboy

Where does Australia fit in? Asia pacific or misc?

Good question and yes it's in the Asia Pacific numbers with NZ as well.

Misc intl is Mexico and the Caribbean.

nname · #**12710** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 9:17 PM**

According to Airlineroute twitter, AC will convert 4 of the 5 daily YVR-SEA service from Dash-8 to CRJ-900.

casper · #**12711** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 11:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by nname

According to Airlineroute twitter, AC will convert 4 of the 5 daily YVR-SEA service from Dash-8 to CRJ-900.

I wonder if that is operational (aircraft availability) or if it is a more strategic decision to add a business class cabin or have a similar product to Delta on the route?

zahav · #**12712** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 3:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by nname

According to Airlineroute twitter, AC will convert 4 of the 5 daily YVR-SEA service from Dash-8 to CRJ-900.

This was already reflected in their schedule update last month. The first daily flight is DH4 and then all others CR-900. They are shifting more YVR flights to CR-900 in general, same happened for YQR and YXE which used to have some DH4, now all CR-900.

Johnny Aussie · #**12713** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 6:34 PM**

ORD finally published its 2017 figures and their total international came in at 12,465,516. Just edged out YVR at 12,429,867. The gap in 2017 was almost 600,000 so that’s shrunk to under 36,000.

So YVR remains #8 for international traffic between the US and Canada airports and #11 for North America.

If YVR and ORD growth trends continue on similar paths YVR will easily overtake ORD in 2018. Already has in Jan 2018.

SFUVancouver · #**12714** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 6:53 PM**

Oh wow, that's a nail-biter. Thanks for the info.

EastVanMark · #**12715** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

ORD finally published its 2017 figures and their total international came in at 12,465,516. Just edged out YVR at 12,429,867. The gap in 2017 was almost 600,000 so that’s shrunk to under 36,000.

So YVR remains #8 for international traffic between the US and Canada airports and #11 for North America.

If YVR and ORD growth trends continue on similar paths YVR will easily overtake ORD in 2018. Already has in Jan 2018.

Very impressive numbers.

zahav · #**12716** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 7:44 AM**

Skytrax Best Airports Awards were announced today, with YVR Best Airport in North America, I think this was 9 years in a row. Only North American airport in the top 20 on the worldwide list. And Fairmont Vancouver Airport named 4th best airport hotel in the world, again the only North American one on the top 10 list. I konw they were really gunning for this award again, apparently no other airport has won in any category that many years in a row.

http://www.worldairportawards.com

thenoflyzone · #**12717** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 5:45 PM**

Updated my list.

Top North American airports in 2017 based on International passengers.

1. JFK 32.4 million
2. YYZ 29.6 million
3. LAX 24.8 million
4. MIA 21.5 million
5. CUN 15.79 million
6. MEX 15.75 million
7. PTY 15.6 million
8. SFO 13.4 million
9. EWR 12.9 million
10. ORD 12.46 million
11.YVR 12.43 million
12. ATL 12.03 million
13. YUL 11.2 million
14. IAH 10.3 million
15. DFW 8.5 million
16. FLL 7.18 million
17. BOS 7.16 million

trofirhen · #**12718** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 6:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Updated my list.

1. JFK 32.4 million
2. YYZ 25.04 million (til Oct '17)
3. LAX 24.8 million
4. MIA 21.5 million
5. CUN 15.79 million
6. MEX 15.75 million
7. PTY 15.6 million
8. SFO 13.4 million
9. EWR 12.9 million
10. ORD 12.46 million
11.YVR 12.43 million
12. ATL 12.03 million
13. YUL 11.2 million
14. IAH 10.3 million
15. DFW 8.5 million
16. FLL 7.18 million
17. BOS 7.16 million

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trofirhen · #**12719** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 9:41 PM**

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nname · #**12720** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 10:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by zahav

Skytrax Best Airports Awards were announced today, with YVR Best Airport in North America, I think this was 9 years in a row. Only North American airport in the top 20 on the worldwide list. And Fairmont Vancouver Airport named 4th best airport hotel in the world, again the only North American one on the top 10 list. I konw they were really gunning for this award again, apparently no other airport has won in any category that many years in a row.

http://www.worldairportawards.com

Just simply show how bad North American airports are in general. Unless something dramatic happens, I don't see YVR lose the top title next year or the year after that. After all, they are still 15 ranks higher than the next-highest North America airport...

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Other YVR News:
- CZ will swap the equipment for the YVR-CAN route from 77W to "78W" (their brand new 787-9) effective July 1.
- The temporary gate(?) D62 was opened since late last week. Although it haven't been used for the past couple of days.