Sacramento Proposal/Approval/Construction Thread - III

[j_deguzman10]

Hi guys its me again, I'm writing a letter to Mayor Steinberg asking about the development of Aura at 621 Capitol Mall and I will attempt to encourage the city to pressure the developers into building the project and/or offering financial incentives/support to construct the building that has been on hold for the past 12 years due to the recession and Mo Mohanna lawsuit. Wish me luck!

[urban_encounter]

Originally Posted by j_deguzman10

Hi guys its me again, I'm writing a letter to Mayor Steinberg asking about the development of Aura at 621 Capitol Mall and I will attempt to encourage the city to pressure the developers into building the project and/or offering financial incentives/support to construct the building that has been on hold for the past 12 years due to the recession and Mo Mohanna lawsuit. Wish me luck!

The city can't really pressure David Taylor to build Aura, especially when it has more pressing eyesores in the city such as J street and 301 CM (Thanks John Saca). It's possible David Taylor may look at developing that site with some kind of residential component with any capital he might have received from the sale of the adjacent U.S. Bank tower to the Shorenstein company. But I wouldn't expect anything as grand as the former Aura proposal. If something does get built I would suspect it would be more in scale with Mohanna's 11 story 19J project (except it would likely be market rate).

Time will tell.

[ltsmotorsport]

I don't think there's any way that site get a project the scale of 19J. Location alone, fronting CM and across from G1C, make this prime real estate for larger projects. This site is also way bigger than the 19J property.

I agree however that the Aura won't be built, simply because I doubt the architect is interested in having his design be built without a hefty fee. I nice office/condo product would be a good fit, IMO. A new tallest is always welcome too.

[ThatDarnSacramentan]

So I was trying to remember the details of the Sacramento Commons project for something I'm looking at, and I reread the Business Journal story (pro tip: beat the paywall by stopping the page from fully loading, the paywall is the last thing to load). Something stood out to me and I'm not sure if it's accurate or if they got something wrong:

Units at Sacramento Commons would be in mid-rise buildings on the western half of the site, two new high-rises on the corner of P and Seventh and either a condominium or hotel/condominium tower at P and Ninth.

They must have meant P and 7th, right? P and 9th is three state buildings and Roosevelt Park.

[j_deguzman10]

I’m just curious to hear from everyone what projects do you think are going to get off the ground this year in West Sac and Sac? Do you guys think that the so called “building boom” exists or is just all hype? Personally I do hope that The Metropolitan can get started even though Saca is being a pain in the 🞵🞵🞵🞵 and that The Bridge District and The Railyards can finally start buulding faster, especially the former.

[ozone]

Originally Posted by j_deguzman10

I’m just curious to hear from everyone what projects do you think are going to get off the ground this year in West Sac and Sac? Do you guys think that the so called “building boom” exists or is just all hype? Personally I do hope that The Metropolitan can get started even though Saca is being a pain in the 🞵🞵🞵🞵 and that The Bridge District and The Railyards can finally start buulding faster, especially the former.

I guess it depends on what you call a building boom? There’s a lot of infill being built in “the grid” but mostly outside of downtown and no high-rises. A lot of this is due to the property owners, which includes too many out of town multi investers. As for those old precrash proposals. They aren’t likely to be realized. The Railyards will soon be getting its first housing project soon.

[Pistola916]

Originally Posted by j_deguzman10

I’m just curious to hear from everyone what projects do you think are going to get off the ground this year in West Sac and Sac? Do you guys think that the so called “building boom” exists or is just all hype? Personally I do hope that The Metropolitan can get started even though Saca is being a pain in the 🞵🞵🞵🞵 and that The Bridge District and The Railyards can finally start buulding faster, especially the former.

There are two state office buildings getting started in the summer - one is an 11-story building on 12th and O streets, and a 20-story high-rise at 8th and P.

[j_deguzman10]

http://www.sactownmag.com/December-January-2017/Top-of-the-Town/
Check this out I found an article last year by Sactown Mag about 7 proposals for observation towers and vertical parks in Sacramento. What do you guys think about this/ Do you think that the city has a chance of constructing one of these because it would be a great addition for Sacramento. The average cost of a tower is 70 million for these proposals and they are recent designs, unlike the competition from 2011 that failed to produce any construction or hype. Getting any one of these projects built would have a huge effect on the tourism and an increase in hotel tax due to the project's "monument" status and would certainly give Sacramento the spotlight.

Personally my favorite is Amplified and Prospect Tower but let me know on what you guys think.

(I wrote a letter to Mayor Steinberg, Vice Mayor Hansen, and GSEC about this I'll let you guys know when I get a response)

[innov8]

Anything is possible and I do not have the answer, but whatever it is it should be
something unique and original. The Mayor has also thought both an aquarium or
observation tower were good ideas... but neither are original. There are already a
dozen aquariums in CA alone. This observation tower is boring if it has no other
function. IMO, these seven proposals are not iconic and I don’t see enough people
willing to pay money to use it. This is the 3rd or 4th time this type of article has been
published by Sactown in the last 10 years with many of same proposals
getting recycled and shown again like it’s something different this time. The skyline
could use some height, but this is a weak way to do it. They should focus on getting
the Powerhouse Science center built first, its been on the drawing board
for 15 years or more with not enough money to build.

[CAGeoNerd]

"The Spire and the Canopy" looks cool but also literally look like the Wookie homeworld from Star Wars.

[enigma99a]

Originally Posted by innov8

The Mayor has also thought both an aquarium or
observation tower were good ideas... but neither are original. There are already a
dozen aquariums in CA alone. This observation tower is boring if it has no other
function.

We have a nice aquarium in Monterey and I agree although it is nice to have something closer for kids. I also think a tower isn’t good money spent. I would also like to see the science center completed, which btw has all the funding and is planned to break ground this summer.

Would like to see the railyard buildings restored and completed with attractions. I wish the city would invest in the zoo more. I think $200 million would be a good investment and move it to an area that isn’t land locked and can expand. (Sutters landing regional park would be perfect)

[ozone]

All of those hypothetical observation towers are ugly. But there's no reason to worry about any of them ever being erected. There's no general will or funding for them. Our city leaders (public and private) are always looking to other cities for inspiration. And they are always looking for that one big thing that will finally bring about downtown's tipping point. And it is that sort of thinking that is partially to blame for downtown's slow progression. These people really do not understand why great cities are great.

[ThatDarnSacramentan]

Originally Posted by ozone

All of those hypothetical observation towers are ugly. But there's no reason to worry about any of them ever being erected. There's no general will or funding for them. Our city leaders (public and private) are always looking to other cities for inspiration. And they are always looking for that one big thing that will finally bring about downtown's tipping point. And it is that sort of thinking that is partially to blame for downtown's slow progression. These people really do not understand why great cities are great.

Agreed. I can think of at least ten different things we could do before some Space Needle knockoff that would make this city better and more vibrant.

[LandofFrost]

1. Fix up, do something cool with the Rail Yard Buildings. In connection with the Railroad museum and old town, they are very cool attractions in themselves.

2. Fix up the areas under the raised freeways that surround Sacramento especially near the new proposed Science Museum.

3. Make the river part of Downtown, it feels so disconnected and is one of the coolest things about Sacramento.


Those things are all better then spending money on a observation tower or aquarium.

[snfenoc]

Just saw a tweet from Sac Business Journal writer, Ben van der Meer: "Nothing official, but sounds as if the hotel Randy Paragary is developing near the Sofia (the new theater for the B Street Theater company) will start work in about 90 days."

The Fort Sutter Hotel would be a really nice addition to the area.

https://www.downtownsac.org/project/fort-sutter-hotel/

[ozone]

^^^ Excellent. Didn't read the article but I assume that Cafe Bernardo's will reopen in the new hotel?

[ThatDarnSacramentan]

Anyone know or heard about a project at 16th and Broadway next to Willie's? The parking lot on the corner got fenced off overnight and the sidewalks have been closed.

[Ellisjh@]

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.sacbee.co...ns-blogs/city-beat/article157378229.html

Broadway in Landpark getting another new restaurant
Article: Ryan Lillis
Publication: Sacramento Bee
Date published: June,21st,2017

[Ellisjh@]

I live in Curtis Park near by and have been anticipating this project, I hope this is the project you were referencing @ ThatDarnSacramentan

[hocobo]

Originally Posted by ThatDarnSacramentan

Anyone know or heard about a project at 16th and Broadway next to Willie's? The parking lot on the corner got fenced off overnight and the sidewalks have been closed.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/city-beat/article157378229.html