YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[excel]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Sheesh, a charter service. I wish we could get it back as a scheduled destination. They have planes that'll do it nonstop now.

They've had airplanes that could do it nonstop since 1989 so I guess you're on to something.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by excel

They've had airplanes that could do it nonstop since 1989 so I guess you're on to something.

I was being sardonic in the first place, but thanks for the feedback.

[Johnny Aussie]

Latest schedule update has all flights to MSP, JFK and ATL being served by 180 seater 737-900ERs this summer.

Also, presently DL is running its weekly YVR-ATL flights on 757s.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Latest schedule update has all flights to MSP, JFK and ATL being served by 180 seater 737-900ERs this summer.

Also, presently DL is running its weekly YVR-ATL flights on 757s.

4x weekly to ATL in Sept is new? or it was the same last year?

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by nname

4x weekly to ATL in Sept is new? or it was the same last year?

Definitely new from last year. ATL was seasonal summer only. They did have a crack at winter service in the past but this year has carried right through. Over Xmas peak it was running three weekly. It picks back up to 3 weekly in April before resuming daily in late May.

[Johnny Aussie]

Another observation I’ve made recently.

With the additional international flights being added, late evening operations at YVR international will get quite busy this summer.

On top of that US carriers will be operating 5 red eyes (6 on Saturdays) this summer adding to the volume of passengers as the late night transborder flights do not get pre-cleared.

Here’s the transborder schedule:

DL ATL 2230 739
DL DTW 2235 320 (Sat only)
UA ORD 2300 739
AA ORD 2300 73H
AA DFW 2320 73H
DL JFK 2355 739 (x Tue)

[SpongeG]

darn missed it

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[deasine]

Charter simply means they are not running regular scheduled service - so it can be very inconsistent. Air Transit has taking advantage of this type of service, and combined with its lower cost base, has made a very good business from Canada to Europe right until recent years with the influx of lower cost bases from Air Canada Rouge and Westjet competition.

Should SQ exercise its rights, this may be an attempt to review route viability to Canada and is a low risk way of doing so.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Another observation I’ve made recently.

With the additional international flights being added, late evening operations at YVR international will get quite busy this summer.

I landed last night on the 10:00PM arrival of AeroMexico from MEX and it was pretty damn busy on the intl pier.

China Eastern, China Southern, EVA, China Airlines, Cathay and a few Sunwing/Rouge odds and ends had almost all the gates filled. Far cry from several years ago when YVR was a relative ghost town in the evening.

Anecdotally my MEX flight was predominantly Latin Americans on board, with a healthy dose of Canadians returning from their sun pilgrimage. Fantastic flight too, very professional and helpful ground staff and flight crew.

Originally Posted by deasine

Should SQ exercise its rights, this may be an attempt to review route viability to Canada and is a low risk way of doing so.

I wonder how much SQ could learn from non-scheduled flights though. The higher yields they would be chasing on a route like this need the scheduled service, unlike AT style vacation services.

[casper]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I landed last night on the 10:00PM arrival of AeroMexico from MEX and it was pretty damn busy on the intl pier.

China Eastern, China Southern, EVA, China Airlines, Cathay and a few Sunwing/Rouge odds and ends had almost all the gates filled. Far cry from several years ago when YVR was a relative ghost town in the evening.

Anecdotally my MEX flight was predominantly Latin Americans on board, with a healthy dose of Canadians returning from their sun pilgrimage. Fantastic flight too, very professional and helpful ground staff and flight crew.



I wonder how much SQ could learn from non-scheduled flights though. The higher yields they would be chasing on a route like this need the scheduled service, unlike AT style vacation services.

I don't think airlines like SQ are into operating public charters in the same way as AT. More likely the entire aircraft is charted by a single group. Government delighting on trade mission or head of state visit or a sports team or concert etc. Air Canada has their Jetz division that is dedicated to this activity.

[whatnext]

For those who might not have seen it, kinda cool:

BRITISH AIRWAYS PILOT SHARES HIS INCREDIBLE VIEW AS HE LANDS AN A380 AT VANCOUVER AIRPORT

[s211]

Originally Posted by whatnext

For those who might not have seen it, kinda cool:

BRITISH AIRWAYS PILOT SHARES HIS INCREDIBLE VIEW AS HE LANDS AN A380 AT VANCOUVER AIRPORT

pilotseye.tv also has a great range of landing videos to choose from. Very high quality.

[Johnny Aussie]

Here’s a cute clip produced by YVR highlighting the connectivity of YVR and the new route to MEL.

https://t.co/OLWf3mUMfc?ssr=true

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Here’s a cute clip produced by YVR highlighting the connectivity of YVR and the new route to MEL.

https://t.co/OLWf3mUMfc?ssr=true

Kind of cheezy.

And saying "non stop direct" at the end is redundant. Non stop is enough.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Kind of cheezy.

And saying "non stop direct" at the end is redundant. Non stop is enough.

A bit cheesy it is. And I also chuckled at the nonstop direct comment... quite redundant.

The marketing department at YVR is unique amongst Canadian airports... the CEO gets directly involved in these fun (sometimes a bit cheesy) videos.

Kudos to YVR though to thinking outside the box and not just be a stuffy corporate image. Their FB posts and tweets are also quite clever.

[thenoflyzone]

http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1387353&p=20199355#p20199355

Starting with next winter schedule the following flights will be transferred from Air Canada Rouge to Air Canada mainline. Boeing 7M8 aircraft will be used with an increase in frequency.
YVR-HNL 2 X Daily
YVR-OGG 2 X Daily
YVR-KOA 4 X Weekly
YVR-CUN 4 X Weekly
YVR-ZIH 3 X Weekly
YYC-OGG 4 X Weekly
YYC-CUN 3 X Weekly

Vancouver to Osaka will return to mainline May 2019 with Boeing 787 service, frequency to be firmed at later date.

[connect2source]

*edit ....great minds think alike 'thenoflyzone' .....Just reading on airliners.net that the following AC flights are returning to mainline from Rouge.

YVR-HNL 2 X Daily
YVR-OGG 2 X Daily
YVR-KOA 4 X Weekly
YVR-CUN 4 X Weekly
YVR-ZIH 3 X Weekly
YYC-OGG 4 X Weekly
YYC-CUN 3 X Weekly


http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1387353

[thenoflyzone]

Hearing YVR-NGO is omitted, since it probably wont be returning for 2019.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by connect2source

*edit ....great minds think alike 'thenoflyzone' .....Just reading on airliners.net that the following AC flights are returning to mainline from Rouge.

YVR-HNL 2 X Daily
YVR-OGG 2 X Daily
YVR-KOA 4 X Weekly
YVR-CUN 4 X Weekly
YVR-ZIH 3 X Weekly
YYC-OGG 4 X Weekly
YYC-CUN 3 X Weekly


http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1387353

For YVR, those are some decent increases in capacity. Literally replacing each 763 with 2 7M8s per each flight. Except ZIH goes from 1 763 to 3 7M8s.

Until this is all announced officially I'll assume PVR and SJD will remain as last winter on mainline. They were transferred this winter already.

Now what remains to be seen is what will happen with PSP, PHX, LAS, MCO, NGO, DUB? DUB, PSP, PHX, LAS, MCO probably rotate through Eastern Canada. Perhaps NGO will get cut altogether?

That's fantastic that YVR will see more mainline product vs Rouge but not at the expense of reduced capacity on the above routes.

And the best news is getting KIX to mainline.

AC will have 15 long haul mainline destinations from YVR by summer 2019. A couple of years ago that was only 8.

[osirisboy]

Why is mainline better than rouge?