Canadian City Proposals

[Coldrsx]

The first 3 are within 5-10mins of it.

[dleung]

Originally Posted by vanman

An update on the Oakridge Mall redevelopment in Vancouver.

The original proposal was approved back in 2014 but has since been scaled back due to the discovery of an aquifer on site. In total, a second floor retail level and 450 condos have been deleted from the redevelopment plans.

Old proposal.



Current Proposal.

lol how does this constitute a "scaling back"?

Anyway I only like building clusters having the same style when it's low-key and functional. I'd rather have one architect/landscape architect work with urban planning to design the mall and roof park, and locate tower masses for OTHER architects to design. These blobs are likely placeholders, which means they should be less prescriptive and be a box. And the style is so foreign to Vancouver, like some try-hard capitalist hellscape in Wuhan or Doha.

[vanman]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

If it's a mall than where are the stores? I just see hundreds of render people milling about on a gigantic plaza surrounded by green spaces.

Most of the offices and retail are tucked away below the park space.

Originally Posted by officedweller

Supposedly, the acquifer prevented them form meeting the [underground] parking requirements of the bigger 2 storey enclosed mall.
From the renderings, the 2 storey spaces shown could be podium retail or even office space, so I'm not sure how the 2 storey
(and taller) spaces shown in the renderings fit into the overall project, but I don't think it'll be a full-on 2 storey mall corridor.

i.e. this space below appears to be formed by the edges of podiums:


http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design


http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design

The 2nd storey (podium) spaces on the left appear to be offices:


http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design


http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design

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WRT Hudson's Bay - unless QuadReal has come to terms with HBC, Ivanhoe Cambridge had (before the sale to QuadReal)
said that Hudson's Bay store would be staying in its existing location due to its current lease terms.

[vanman]

Originally Posted by dleung

lol how does this constitute a "scaling back"?

More than a million square feet of development has been removed from the original plan. How does that not constitute a scaling back?

The massive $1.5 billion project would have seen the complex expand to a total of 4.6 million square feet, including several tall residential towers and other uses above an expanded shopping centre. An expansion will still happen, but with 450 fewer residential units and less retail, spanning a total of about 3.5 million square feet.

https://www.retail-insider.com/retail-insider/2016/1/oakridge

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

The mall is below. The entire roof of the mall is a city run park. You will be able to access the mall from the roof park and some of the areas will spill out onto the roofpark such as the food court's outside seating.

It's incredibly ambitious, I've never seen anything quite like it before.

It's definitely ambitious. A city run park on the roof of a mall just doesn't feel right.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

It's definitely ambitious. A city run park on the roof of a mall just doesn't feel right.

It seems to work for the Devonian Gardens in Calgary’s Core shopping mall DT. Mind you that’s more of an indoor botanical garden but still. I think it’s a great thing to transform what would normally be an enormous barren concrete roof into a lush park. If any canadian city can do a green roof that size it’s Vancouver.

[WhipperSnapper]

That's not the point. It's not the park. It's that it's a city park

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

That's not the point. It's not the park. It's that it's a city park

Devonian Gardens is also a city park. When you have something like that you want it to be a well maintained part of the public realm.

[WhipperSnapper]

If this is just another neighbourhood park than it's less of a concern. If this is being touted as the neighbourhood park than there is a cause for concern. The design/access is already limited to being on the roof a mall and the mall's issues and concerns will always come first. Leftcoaster said managed which makes this more or less a POPS space. Devonian Gardens is a publicly owned facility that just happen to be part of a larger private development. (similar to but not in scale to the Cloud Gardens here in Toronto)

[GeneralLea]

I heard about this proposal coming up for Mississauga in the newspaper, it was a marketing ad. It's called Highlight Condos
[IMG]Bleugh by Josh Kenn Photographics, on Flickr[/IMG]

It's located in an area that could use density, here's their website
https://www.highlightcondosandtowns.ca/?...kwOsDsl_Sev08XSRuZjHC323q4RoC4s8QAvD_BwE
The marketing is arbitrary as any other piece of advertising. ("minutes to square one, very walkable area")

Here's the current area, and surprisingly the sales centre is being built..
https://www.google.ca/maps/place/4070+Di...02d2137e6770!8m2!3d43.62347!4d-79.604961

[MonkeyRonin]

Revised design (and height) for 217 Adelaide West:

[WhipperSnapper]

wow. vast improvement over 2016. that was awful. this is passable.

[ericmacm]

Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

Revised design (and height) for 217 Adelaide West:

Way nicer design. Really digging the red elements. Shorter height is good too, that area is getting really packed with proposals all around the same height.

[koops65]

107 metres, 25 floors

Looks nice enough, but I'd call this filler...

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

wow. vast improvement over 2016. that was awful. this is passable.

I liked the 2015 proposal modern brutalist design even if I was alone on that, didn't like the 2016 one just like you, this is the best out of the 3 though. It's interesting to see the buildings it's now sandwiched between as the designs changed over 3 years.

source: urbantoronto.ca

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by enrigue8

There are many incredible mega projects happening in the world,but Canada has some great one too. I am proud to witness all these beautiful development at this time.
The Lebreton flats development are featured in the video .
Please enjoy the video !

• Video Link

Sharp, but a lot of inaccuracies for a few (if not all) of these cities/projects. For example, in Ottawa, the library is no longer part of the project, although the City and National Archives are planning (though not much news in a while) a joint Central Library/Archives a block from the site proposed by the Sens. A few of the renderings are from the runner-up DCDLS group that is now officially out. And the arena will be 18,000 not 28,000.

[GeneralLea]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

I liked the 2015 proposal modern brutalist design even if I was alone on that, didn't like the 2016 one just like you, this is the best out of the 3 though. It's interesting to see the buildings it's now sandwiched between as the designs changed over 3 years.

Yea, personally I like the first proposal the best in terms of design and materials....I don't care for this new rendition much, it seems to be filler really. The red hye easily could be cheapened out to grey, and I don't have a good feeling about cladding choices here.

The retention of office space is probably the only thing I could really see as significant in this proposal....I'm glad the heights cut considering the present design.

[Black Star]

Which major transformative project planned for Edmonton is most likely to succeed? The downtown arena district is the early leader.

Bonnie Doon mall is owned by Morguard Investments, a Canadian firm that owns or manages $18 billion in real estate. It’s managed Bonnie Doon mall since 1994, with the owner being Morguard’s partner, Canadian Pension Funds.

Major pension funds are now looking at Transit Oriented Development (TOD) as a solid investment, says Margaret Knowles, senior vice-president of Morguard, who was in Edmonton recently for the unveiling of the new LRT cars that will run from downtown to Mill Woods, with a stop at the mall.




download by BLACK STAR III, on Flickr


http://edmontonjournal.com/business/comm...s-plans-would-transform-bonnie-doon-mall

[Coldrsx]

This one has an excellent location, but I am curious to see the buildout.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Highers res renders of 217 Adelaide West - from Kirkor's website