Oakridge Park | 13 Towers | 154m | 52fl | 5M sqft | U/C

[officedweller]

Those last 2 renderings from the DailyHive don't look all that promising - looks pretty utilitarian in a 1970s sense.

[Joat]

So they're not gonna do the big pond ? Booooo

[s211]

Originally Posted by vanman

Renderings from the DailyHive.

The very definition of green-washing in that rendering, which Gillespie is well-renowned for.

[s211]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

i like it; surprised they are keeping the red brick part in the front, though. seems like a no-brainier to tear those things down.

bcIMC/Quadreal doesn't own the brick building, IIRC. It's a separate strata.

[rofina]

I don't disagree that this is something you would see in Singapore.

Looks pretty nice - overall much better than what's currently onsite.

I do think some of the criticisms are valid, but at some point you just need to get to building.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Might be because it is an amendment to a previous approval which was approved under different guidelines.

I have no inside knowledge but that would be my guess since this was already approved before.

No demand, eh? I guess Gillespie and Quadreal are suicidal in proposing this behemoth.

With all the previous restrictions removed, see what Vancouver is capable of.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Vin

No demand, eh? I guess Gillespie and Quadreal are suicidal in proposing this behemoth.

With all the previous restrictions removed, see what Vancouver is capable of.

But they cancelled double-decking the mall and will just keep a single storey mall
(supposedly due to the inability to build underground parking due to the acquifer).
...if they really wanted to they could have found other solutions to provide parking (above grade?) and increase the amount of mall retail space.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by officedweller

But they cancelled double-decking the mall and will just keep a single storey mall
(supposedly due to the inability to build underground parking due to the acquifer).
...if they really wanted to they could have found other solutions to provide parking (above grade?) and increase the amount of mall retail space.

I'm not so sure now if they would keep the indoor portion of the mall single-storey. They did say that they won't be just adding structures on top the existing mall, but that the entire existing structure would be replaced with a new one. The aquifer affects the underground parkade, that I agree, but with a second floor retail, I don't see why the aquifer would affect that, as pilings for the foundation can be done away from the aquifer. Maybe I'm wrong, but I still hope they can add height to the existing indoor mall, at least partially. As far as the renderings go, we can tell that at least for the outdoor portion of the mall, there would be upper floors, and that is also really sweet.

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design

[SpongeG]

does the hudsons bay still move to a location fronting 41st?

[officedweller]

Supposedly, the acquifer prevented them form meeting the [underground] parking requirements of the bigger 2 storey enclosed mall.
From the renderings, the 2 storey spaces shown could be podium retail or even office space, so I'm not sure how the 2 storey
(and taller) spaces shown in the renderings fit into the overall project, but I don't think it'll be a full-on 2 storey mall corridor.

i.e. this space below appears to be formed by the edges of podiums:


http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design


http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design

The 2nd storey (podium) spaces on the left appear to be offices:


http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design


http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design

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WRT Hudson's Bay - unless QuadReal has come to terms with HBC, Ivanhoe Cambridge had (before the sale to QuadReal)
said that Hudson's Bay store would be staying in its existing location due to its current lease terms.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by officedweller

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WRT Hudson's Bay - unless QuadReal has come to terms with HBC, Ivanhoe Cambridge had (before the sale to QuadReal)
said that Hudson's Bay store would be staying in its existing location due to its current lease terms.

The Daily Hive article quotes a QualReal rep as saying every square inch of retail at Oakridge will be newly built.
I'm thinking that a lot of the retail will be outdoor lifestyle space.

The floor area of retail at the new multi-storey shopping centre will almost double from the existing 574,000 sq. ft. to about one million sq. ft., with an east-west galleria spine running from the SkyTrain station to the development’s western edge.

There will also be a new indoor mall area on the existing site and a pedestrian-only, outdoor high-street lined with retail running north-south along the length of the mall’s perimeter to the west.

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/oakridge-centre-redevelopment-vancouver-2018-design

It'll be interesting to see floorplans when available.

[Jebby]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Those last 2 renderings from the DailyHive don't look all that promising - looks pretty utilitarian in a 1970s sense.

The second last reminds me of Barbican.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Supposedly, the acquifer prevented them form meeting the [underground] parking requirements of the bigger 2 storey enclosed mall.
From the renderings, the 2 storey spaces shown could be podium retail or even office space, so I'm not sure how the 2 storey
(and taller) spaces shown in the renderings fit into the overall project, but I don't think it'll be a full-on 2 storey mall corridor.

WRT Hudson's Bay - unless QuadReal has come to terms with HBC, Ivanhoe Cambridge had (before the sale to QuadReal)
said that Hudson's Bay store would be staying in its existing location due to its current lease terms.

You could be right about the indoor mall section. Would still love a multi-level interior done, at least for part of the mall, like an entrance foyer with a fountain, and grand stairways/escalators leading to the park above. That's important as the first impression counts for visitors coming in from the Canada Line station.

[officedweller]

I only see one main "mall" indicated by a large glass canopy.
I see maybe 2 secondary corridors that could be mall with skylights.
I've circled in orange below.
The main corridor should funnel people to the open "mews" at the back of the site, otherwise the retail back there could stagnate.

In comparison, Brentwood and Lougheed have their open air lifestyle retail areas up front - fronting the rap[id transit station.
Here, the open air retail is hidden in the back - largely because the Cambie & 41st plaza is bound by the existing office and condo buildings.



I think the rendering below shows the area circled in red, above.
So the main corridor could be multi-level, but the lower level looks dark and 1970s-ish.


http://www.vancourier.com/real-estate/oa...-looks-to-evoke-hometown-feel-1.23160550

The Vancouver Courier has an article about the interior designer for Oakridge's mall:

Oakridge project's Tokyo-based interior designer looks to evoke hometown feel
http://www.vancourier.com/real-estate/oa...-looks-to-evoke-hometown-feel-1.23160550

Wonderwall projects look promising (but I think there may be some visual overload):

Emporium Melbourne
http://wonder-wall.com/project/299/

Westfield Sydney
http://wonder-wall.com/project/223/

IAPM, Shanghai
http://wonder-wall.com/project/293/

[Max.]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I only see one main "mall" indicated by a large glass canopy.
I see maybe 2 secondary corridors that could be mall with skylights.
I've circled in orange below.
The main corridor should funnel people to the open "mews" at the back of the site, otherwise the retail back there could stagnate.

In comparison, Brentwood and Lougheed have their open air lifestyle retail areas up front - fronting the rap[id transit station.
Here, the open air retail is hidden in the back - largely because the Cambie & 41st plaza is bound by the existing office and condo buildings.



I think the rendering below shows the area circled in red, above.
So the main corridor could be multi-level, but the lower level looks dark and 1970s-ish.


http://www.vancourier.com/real-estate/oa...-looks-to-evoke-hometown-feel-1.23160550

The Vancouver Courier has an article about the interior designer for Oakridge's mall:

Oakridge project's Tokyo-based interior designer looks to evoke hometown feel
http://www.vancourier.com/real-estate/oa...-looks-to-evoke-hometown-feel-1.23160550

Wonderwall projects look promising (but I think there may be some visual overload):

Emporium Melbourne
http://wonder-wall.com/project/299/

Westfield Sydney
http://wonder-wall.com/project/223/

IAPM, Shanghai
http://wonder-wall.com/project/293/

Wow! iAPM is my favourite mall in Shanghai, great interior design and open from 10am to 11pm

[Vin]

Our indoor mall attracts the most people during lousy weather, so it would make sense to have the indoor portion right next to the skytrain station. Depending on the weather, shoppers can venture out to the open if they so desire. Plus it would be nice to have the more "hidden" alcoves, plazas and more shops to explore outside when you are done with the indoor portion.

For Brentwood, it's actually not so nice that people have to "get wet/cold" before they walk into the mall proper. Of course, proper walkway shelters would help, but I rather be all-comfy when I go shopping.

[Vin]

Hmmm the Emporium Melbourne mall in Melbourne's CBD reminds me of the soon-to-be-revamped downtown Montreal's Eaton Centre as well as the Mid Valley Garden's mall in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia..
Emporium Melbourne:
http://wonder-wall.com/project/299/
Makes our Pacific Centre look pretty pathetic.


Eaton Centre, Montreal:
https://www.retail-insider.com/retail-insider/2018/1/ivanhoe-cambridge-montreal-eaton-centre

Mid Valley Gardens, KL:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhot...ll-Kuala_Lumpur_Wilayah_Persekutuan.html

[officedweller]

Interestingly, Pacific Centre has a funkier look when it opened in the 1970s.
I remember orange and browns and lots of slats / lines on the ceiling in angular "tron" patterns.


https://designkultur.wordpress.com/2012/...-pellis-eatons-pacific-centre-1973-2012/

[SpongeG]

ugh the 70's

[rofina]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

ugh the 70's

You're about to live through them again, the inflation and all.