Great Canadian Skyline Thread II - Page 326

MonctonRad · #**6501** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 12:23 AM**

Kinda a cheat I know, but Moncton is now in 3D on Google Earth.

Downtown

Magnetic Hill

Rico Rommheim · #**6502** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 12:37 AM**

^ Oh nice! I absolutely LOVE Google Earth. For example I did much exploration of the Halifax skyline on GE.

I also just peaked at Saint-John, which is much more impressive than Moncton. It's not even close. And yet Moncton is the larger city.

suburbanite · #**6503** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 1:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Is that a smokestack centre left? It looks very 2 Dimensional so it's hard to tell.

Yes It's part of an enwave building. I don't know the full logistics behind it but I believe it provides steam heating to several buildings in the core. So instead of having a boiler on-site, a building essentially connects to the enwave network which provides it with the necessary steam production to the heat the building. I was at 200 King once when the wind was blowing southeast. It was quite surprising to look out the window and think that the building was on fire when a massive cloud of exhaust hit the glass.

Pavlov · #**6504** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 2:01 AM**

A lot of parking lots in Moncton. Would be nice to see those start to fill in.

Coldrsx · #**6505** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 2:27 AM**

Google

GeneralLea · #**6506** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 3:33 AM**

Wow, Edmonton. Nice to know that the parking lots next to the arena will be built up as a part of the Ice District. I wonder about plans for the parking lots at the top of the image....there's still a lot to do, even though a lot is going on as is.

O-tacular · #**6507** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 3:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

Yes It's part of an enwave building. I don't know the full logistics behind it but I believe it provides steam heating to several buildings in the core. So instead of having a boiler on-site, a building essentially connects to the enwave network which provides it with the necessary steam production to the heat the building. I was at 200 King once when the wind was blowing southeast. It was quite surprising to look out the window and think that the building was on fire when a massive cloud of exhaust hit the glass.

Interesting. Calgary has the same kind of system with the Enmax District Energy Centre in East Village. Connects to everything DT.

MonctonRad · #**6508** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 3:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

I also just peaked at Saint-John, which is much more impressive than Moncton. It's not even close. And yet Moncton is the larger city.

I'm not going to apologize for the difference between the Moncton and Saint John skylines. Both cities are unique and have vastly different historical contexts.

Saint John has been a sizeable community for a very long time, dating well back into the mid portion of the 19th century. It was also a prosperous port city, situated on a harbour and at one time was the fourth largest city in Canada. Of course Saint John would have a dense built form and a large inventory of substantial buildings. This is to be expected. Saint John traditionally was a rival to Halifax.

Moncton on the other hand was a small town until the 1880s, and didn't really start to grow substantially until the early 20th century. Moncton's history is as a railroad town, so there were large rail yards in the core, and an industrialized riverfront. In the 1960s, the riverfront deindustrialized and in the 1980s, the CNR largely pulled out of the city. Vacant land was reconverted to parking lots. The city however recovered from these setbacks and has grown by more than 50% since the 1980s. A lot of this growth initially was suburban, but the downtown is beginning to densify and this process is accelerating. The current catalyst is the new events centre. There are a total of four hotels currently under construction (Wellesley/FiveFive Queen), pending construction (Hilton, Hyatt) or proposed (DoubleTree). People are beginning to move to the downtown. Moncton is on an upward trajectory. The skyline will look much different in 10-15 years time.

Coldrsx · #**6509** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 4:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by GeneralLeeTPHLS

Wow, Edmonton. Nice to know that the parking lots next to the arena will be built up as a part of the Ice District. I wonder about plans for the parking lots at the top of the image....there's still a lot to do, even though a lot is going on as is.

That's the Quarters. Think East Village Calgary.

Nite · #**6510** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 8:58 AM**

Toronto

Faculty of Architecture 01 by Michael Muraz, on Flickr

Island Views by Michael Muraz, on Flickr

One Bloor East 02 by Michael Muraz, on Flickr

Rico Rommheim · #**6511** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 9:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I'm not going to apologize for the difference between the Moncton and Saint John skylines. Both cities are unique and have vastly different historical contexts.

Saint John has been a sizeable community for a very long time, dating well back into the mid portion of the 19th century. It was also a prosperous port city, situated on a harbour and at one time was the fourth largest city in Canada. Of course Saint John would have a dense built form and a large inventory of substantial buildings. This is to be expected. Saint John traditionally was a rival to Halifax.

Moncton on the other hand was a small town until the 1880s, and didn't really start to grow substantially until the early 20th century. Moncton's history is as a railroad town, so there were large rail yards in the core, and an industrialized riverfront. In the 1960s, the riverfront deindustrialized and in the 1980s, the CNR largely pulled out of the city. Vacant land was reconverted to parking lots. The city however recovered from these setbacks and has grown by more than 50% since the 1980s. A lot of this growth initially was suburban, but the downtown is beginning to densify and this process is accelerating. The current catalyst is the new events centre. There are a total of four hotels currently under construction (Wellesley/FiveFive Queen), pending construction (Hilton, Hyatt) or proposed (DoubleTree). People are beginning to move to the downtown. Moncton is on an upward trajectory. The skyline will look much different in 10-15 years time.

Thanks for this. Good to know.

isaidso · #**6512** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 2:43 PM**

Sorry Moncton, but that's one nasty looking arena. Good that it got built but was there no attempt to build something that would blend into what will become an urban core? Why are we so bad at this? Edmonton's new arena is gorgeous as is the Richmond skating oval but they're exceptions. The vast majority of Canadian arenas look like large industrial park warehouses.

For being such central pieces of cultural infrastructure in our cities Canada doesn't make any attempt to make them architectural show pieces. Of all buildings you'd think arenas are buildings Canadians would hire star architects and have global design competitions for. It seems Canada has always just slapped up some tin box and it never occurred to people that they should be anything other than that. Says alot about our culture right there.

Might I remind people that in ancient Rome the Coliseum was that city's masterpiece. In Canadian cities, the building that's a central part of our culture is usually the ugliest thing around.

MonctonRad · #**6513** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 2:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Sorry Moncton, but that's one nasty looking arena. Good that it got built but was there no attempt to build something that would blend into what will become an urban core? Why are we so bad at this? Edmonton's new arena is gorgeous as is the Richmond skating oval but they're exceptions. The vast majority of Canadian arenas look like large industrial park warehouses.

For being such central pieces of cultural infrastructure in our cities Canada doesn't make any attempt to make them architectural show pieces.

None of those Street View images I posted show the entrance to the arena off Main Street. I'm at work right now and can't do anything about it, but when I get home this evening I'll post a few photos showing what the face of the arena looks like (and the plaza in front).

WhipperSnapper · #**6514** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 2:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Interesting. Calgary has the same kind of system with the Enmax District Energy Centre in East Village. Connects to everything DT.

Exactly. It's a gas fired district energy plant. Nice sleuthing, BTW.

isaidso · #**6515** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 3:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by monctonrad

none of those street view images i posted show the entrance to the arena off main street. I'm at work right now and can't do anything about it, but when i get home this evening i'll post a few photos showing what the face of the arena looks like (and the plaza in front).

Ok.

Halifax · #**6516** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 3:02 PM**

nice pics

Beedok · #**6517** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 3:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

THIS is awesome! I can definitely see the early Chicago influences here. Really cool that Canada has buildings like this. I can't think of any quite like it in other Canadian cities I've been to.

Some of the buildings around Place D'Armes in Montreal have a similar(ish) feel.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File

lace_d_Armes_Montreal_04.jpg