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Can we add a light rail decision from Project Connect to that dream scenario?
And our first 900 footer breaking ground, if you'll pardon the interruption of the said dream scenario.
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Can we add a light rail decision from Project Connect to that dream scenario?
Amazon HQ2 + Delta hub + MLS team in downtown + light rail + Apple Campus 2

How's that for a dream scenario?
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Can we add a light rail decision from Project Connect to that dream scenario?
Honestly at this point (and at the risk of degenerating to another Transportation thread ) at this point I'm really starting to think that true (gold class) BRT is really what Austin should propose and build. Especially after failing the last two elections.

Whatever budget the city has for it (CapMetro has no money) and whatever route miles that gets them, doing BRT instead will get them at least double that.

And I'm starting to think that spreading the pork enough geographically in Austin is the only way it'll make it through both the council and the electorate.

For instance, even if the first stage of a light rail makes it up G/L and down Congress, there's no way it will go much further to start (too expensive).

But if you do it as BRT, certainly that compromises it in some ways, but it also might be cheap enough to do the various extensions, such as the one diverting up to Burnet Rd to the Domain and the Broadmoor/Amazon campus (see how I brought it back there

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How would a true BRT system work in Austin? Does it take up an existing lane? I've said before a few times, I like Ottawa's system because it has dedicated roadways just for their huge buses. But I'm not sure Austin has the room for that. Underground perhaps?
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Honestly at this point (and at the risk of degenerating to another Transportation thread ) at this point I'm really starting to think that true (gold class) BRT is really what Austin should propose and build. Especially after failing the last two elections.

Whatever budget the city has for it (CapMetro has no money) and whatever route miles that gets them, doing BRT instead will get them at least double that.

And I'm starting to think that spreading the pork enough geographically in Austin is the only way it'll make it through both the council and the electorate.

For instance, even if the first stage of a light rail makes it up G/L and down Congress, there's no way it will go much further to start (too expensive).

But if you do it as BRT, certainly that compromises it in some ways, but it also might be cheap enough to do the various extensions, such as the one diverting up to Burnet Rd to the Domain and the Broadmoor/Amazon campus (see how I brought it back there

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Pretty much agreed but I would like to see investments in the commuter rail system.

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How would a true BRT system work in Austin? Does it take up an existing lane? I've said before a few times, I like Ottawa's system because it has dedicated roadways just for their huge buses. But I'm not sure Austin has the room for that. Underground perhaps?
Underground would be prohibitively expensive. You have to be willing to reduce car lanes which is what cap metro told the council a few months ago or build center elevated transit lanes in the median which cap metro has proposed.

Here are some examples of how it could work:

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I'd be more likely to support the elevated lanes, even though it could be an eyesore. I don't like the idea of taking away existing auto lanes, and neither will a majority of people who work in Austin.
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I personally have no issue of elevated lines for BRT or rail (though I'd prefer rail if the money is already being spent on elevating whatever form).

If Amazon HQ2 were to land here, it will be really cool to see what could happen as a result of that - transit or otherwise - for the benefit of the whole city.
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How would a true BRT system work in Austin? Does it take up an existing lane?
Moving to transportation thread.
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WSJ ranking of 20 cities

The Wall Street Journal had a front page article that ranked the remaining 20 cities. Austin was in the 4th tier (our of 5), well below the 1st Tier cities that included Dallas, DC metro area, etc. Austin had a strong ranking in "cultural fit" but barely moved the needle in any of the other criteria. I disagree with the ranking (LA and Indianapolis ahead of Austin??) but they have their own metrics.
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Sorry for the huge copy pasta here, but this may be one of the best articles I've read about Austin's chances so far. Lots and lots of nice nuggets here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/...in-despite-shortcomings-city-a-dark.html


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Jan 25, 2018, 2:51pm CST Updated Jan 25, 2018, 3:17pm

When Amazon.com Inc. issued its prime directive last September to economic development officials that it was willing to drop a $5 billion second headquarters somewhere in North America, the naysayers were quick to pick holes in Austin’s application.

Based on the Seattle retail behemoth’s wish list for the project — that comes with as many as 50,000 high-paying jobs and has been described by economic experts as a “generational” opportunity — the Texas capital just couldn’t stand up to the mega metros like Atlanta, Washington, D.C., or Dallas-Fort Worth. After all, Austin doesn’t have an entrenched mass-transit system, and while its airport is growing quickly, it’s just not on the same scale as, say, Toronto.

What’s more, New Jersey has reportedly offered a whopping $7 billion in incentives to lure HQ2, while Austin Mayor Steve Adler has so far seemed reticent to use the words “incentives” and “Amazon” in the same sentence. The Austin Chamber of Commerce’s regional bid forwarded to Amazon last October did not offer incentives from the city of Austin, according to an October memo from the city.

All along, Austin city leaders have been cautious about the prospect of landing Amazon and using incentives to do so, insisting the project must benefit the city as a whole.

The October city memo notes that Austin’s economic incentive process is formally kicked off when a company provides detailed information about itself and its proposal through the city’s Business Information Form. Melissa Alvarado, a spokeswoman for the Austin Economic Development Department, confirmed Jan. 22 that Amazon had not yet submitted the paperwork.

And as The Business Journals examined last year in a nationwide investigative feature, an Amazon project without incentives in the mix is a rarity: The company has received more than $1.24 billion in subsidies from state and local governments for building out its national network of warehouses.

Stacked up against the city of Plano, part of the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex, Austin barely registers in the incentives game. Plano offered incentives worth nearly $7 million to help lure Toyota’s North American headquarters.

Highly educated workforce

Flash forward a few months, however, and Austin has not only survived the first cut when the field was narrowed from 238 bids to 20, but stacks up well as a dark horse against many of the finalists in some key areas. (Bettors at this point give the Texas capital 11-to-2 odds, behind Boston at 2-to-1 and Atlanta at 5-to-1).

Amazon already has about 900 corporate employees in Austin, plus thousands more at a distribution center in San Marcos to the south of the capital. And it’s the new owner of Whole Foods Market Inc. after a $13.7 billion acquisition that closed last fall.

Despite those previously mentioned factors working against it, some experts say landowners and commercial developers across Central Texas have reason to be optimistic about their chances, especially at several diverse sites spread across the Austin metro.

It’s also likely that Gov. Greg Abbott would open his wallet wide to allow either Austin or Dallas to snare HQ2. It was the $40 million the state kicked in through the Texas Enterprise Fund that helped seal the deal in 2014 for Toyota to choose Plano for its HQ facilities.

Two of Austin’s biggest advantages are the academic and workforce resources provided by the University of Texas at Austin and other higher-education institutions and the quality of the region’s technology workforce.

“The presence of a highly educated educated workforce and a strong research institution are key assets for the Austin region,” said Minoli Ratnatunga, director of regional economics research for the Milken Institute, a California-based think tank.

Indeed, 42 percent of Austin adults have a bachelor’s degree. That’s the fourth-highest rate among HQ2 finalist metros, behind D.C. (home to three bids), Boston and Raleigh, North Carolina.

And Ratnatunga said UT has a “tech transfer” effect on surrounding companies, spurring research that can be turned into products and innovating in the areas of management, commerce, digital transformation and more.

Nonetheless, Austin lags far behind other finalists when it comes to the sheer size of its workforce. The Texas capital is home to 113,200 tech workers, according to information technology association CompTIA, which has an online tool that allows for metro-to-metro comparisons.

That pales in comparison to places like New York City with 392,400 tech workers, D.C. with 297,900 and Los Angeles with 287,600, Boston with 263,500 and Dallas-Fort Worth with 209,600.

Property requirements

When Amazon announced its HQ2 search in September, it gave a detailed list of preferences for its new campus. It needs at least 500,000 square feet of existing space with room to expand up to 8 million feet, with both infill and greenfield sites being considered.

A 500,000-square-foot office wouldn’t fit just anywhere in Austin.

“It’s a large undertaking. It’s not the same thing as trying to find a few floors of office space,” said Justin Bayne of commercial real estate firm SkylesBayne and co-working startup Firmspace. “Their options become a lot less available and most of the time, it makes sense for them to come in and either do a gigantic renovation or just build a campus from the ground up.”

And there are a host of other factors Amazon likely is considering beyond the basic parameters outlined in the company’s requests for proposals.

“They’re considering every single factor. They’re considering how long is the commute for the average person living nearby? They’re considering the natural light they’re able to get in the space and dozens of other details,” Bayne said.

There are a few clear contender sites in Central Texas. At the Broadmoor campus owned by Brandywine Realty Trust (and currently occupied by IBM Corp.), there is room to construct multiple closely grouped office towers. The 66-acre site abuts The Domain, a burgeoning live-work-play district that is especially appealing for tech workers and employers.

Broadmoor has more than enough room for 500,000 square feet of offices and entitlements in place for nearly 8 million square feet of new construction.

Another developer actively pitching to Amazon is Eightfold Development/Panache Development, which owns the 125-acre former Motorola site in East Austin, about a 10 minute drive from downtown and less than 10 miles from the airport.

Eightfold is leading an extensive renovation regardless of Amazon, so the company already has significant permits, said Adam Zarafshani, the company’s CEO. He believes they can develop 500,000 square feet of office space within a year, with enough room for 5 million to 9 million square feet at full buildout.

Another property frequently in the mix — and on the mind of real estate agents — is the 8,000-acre Robinson Ranch. The Northwest Austin site would offer a blank slate of expansive greenfield space that could be shaped to Amazon’s liking. According to the Robinson family’s attorney, Richard Suttle of Armbrust & Brown PLLC, the family told the Austin Chamber that it would be willing to sell its property at a steep discount or even donate some of the land in order to be considered by Amazon.

“The family expressed interest early in the process and remains interested in having discussions with Amazon during this next phase,” he said.

“I think all parties would agree that properly-zoned property located on the rail line and major highways at this location is an important consideration. This idea is independent of other proposals that may include portions of the Robinson Ranch …[and] was presented to enhance the possibility of Austin becoming the site chosen,” he added.

Laurie Flood, an agent with Keller Williams Realty, has dedicated an entire page on her website to discussing the merits of Robinson Ranch for Amazon. At nearly 12 square miles, it’s bigger than all of downtown Austin, Flood said, with a MetroRail line running through the property. Parts of the ranch are already zoned for “downtown-style” developments, Flood noted. And for a company cognizant of employees’ lifestyles outside of work, the nearby housing options aren’t as pricey as downtown and the Northwest Austin schools are considered desirable, she added in an interview.

Yet another oft-mentioned site is the property occupied by the Austin American-Statesman newspaper on the south side of Lady Bird Lake.

Bryce Miller with Endeavor Real Estate Group — which is managing the redevelopment of the Statesman property — said the group submitted information to the Chamber but he isn’t sure how the site was ranked in the official bid sent to the e-commerce giant.

“We have a sincere interest in Amazon and how they might fit and play a role on the Statesman tract, but we also have a strong interest in Amazon HQ2 [coming to Austin] regardless of where it goes,” Miller said.

He added that the roughly 18.5-acre property would have to be combined with several adjacent properties to accommodate Amazon’s campus. That wouldn’t be too far-fetched, considering the company's Seattle headquarters spans several city blocks, he noted.

“It’s not that Amazon couldn’t do a portion of their headquarters on the Statesman property. They could do a portion of it on a site that’s two blocks away (too),” he said.

Pitting potential sites against each other is a key tenet of Amazon’s strategy to strike the best deal for its real estate projects. And the company has signaled some of its preferences for creative offices in dense, urban environments.

Just last week, Amazon real estate chief John Schoettler dropped another tantalizing hint about what it was looking for while speaking at an event in Seattle.

“We look forward to cities that area… progressive and are thinking forward and long-term in terms of affordable housing and mass transportation, and being able to move people around,” Schoettler said.

He envisions HQ2 as “a combination of buildings and facilities probably within walking proximity to each other.”

Challenges remain

If Austin were to win HQ2, what would the effect be on the local economy — especially on established companies?

“The startup ecosystem won’t be affected, but larger companies will have to find a way to adapt and evolve to compete against Amazon if it moves to town,” said Craig McKinney, head of recruiting at Dosh Inc., a retail technology startup in Bee Cave, just west of Austin.

“Some companies will have to offer incentives in areas like benefits or [paid time off],” McKinney said.

McKinney added that the arrival of Amazon would definitely tighten the tech labor landscape.

Lisa Hooker agreed that bigger companies are more likely to be affected and that the labor market for specific job positions, such as engineers, would get more competitive. She is a technology practice partner at the Austin office of Odgers Berndtson, an executive search firm.

However, the full effect of an HQ2 isn’t known because Amazon hasn’t specified what job functions, divisions or departments it plans to house at its second headquarters.

“A broad spectrum of leadership and level of employee would create another venue for longevity in Austin’s employee base,” Hooker said.

Whether or not Amazon chooses Austin, large tech employers such as HomeAway Inc. — which is owned by Expedia Inc. and runs an online home-rental platform — are focusing on making themselves stand out in an already crowded labor market. HomeAway is building a new sky-scraping headquarters at The Domain and will need to hire 2,000 people to fill it.

“I think it’s really important to have a strong culture,” said Mari Rylander, HomeAway’s director of global talent acquisition. “The reason I say that is because no matter how much money you could potentially compensate a hire with, what keeps people here and attracts them ultimately is your culture.”

When Amazon announced Jan. 18 the finalists for HQ2, it set off another round of frenzied reaction in business and economic development circles.

But there could also be some trepidation in some of Austin’s corner offices. The HQ2 project would surely contribute to escalating housing prices and worsening traffic, two issues identified as among the most pressing in the region.

“Our issues are traffic congestion and affordability and when you have 50,000 new people… that’s going to be difficult to handle,” said William Mellor, vice president of Austin’s AngelouEconomics. “A scale-up of that nature will be hard to take.”

An employer of that size would have an abnormally high concentration of Austin’s skilled workforce: “It would be better to have 50 companies that employ 1,000 people than to have just one company employ 50,000,” Mellor said.

For comparison, the largest regional employer in Austin is HEB Grocery Co. with more than 13,000 workers, followed by Dell Technologies Inc. at around 12,000. After its buyout of Whole Foods, Amazon now has some 7,000 workers in the area.

On the other hand, landing a project the size of Amazon “could catalyze some real solutions from the city’s perspective to pass some policies that take more action to address these issues,” Mellor said.

He added that corporate relocation decisions typically start big-picture, focused on factors such as the strength of the workforce, and eventually get down to specific sites.

“They’re going to want to know first what city makes sense to be in,” Mellor said. “As they get more information and get familiar with each market, they’re going to narrow it down into the specific aspects.”

“Really, the legwork for Amazon is just beginning,” he added.
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I can't help to think Amazon always knew where they really wanted to go (maybe top 3), and the rest of this is marketing and deal making. They got a shit TON of free press all across the country, and they get to bring these incentive packages offered by other cities to leverage themselves in negotiations with their predetermined finalists.

Again, never mentioned, $. How much would he have to pay his average employee in each of those cities? $100k in Austin goes A LOT further than Boston, NYC, LA, DC....etc.

They are not going to need all these employees that fast, with all the universities in Texas, they can bring in loads of graduates each year to fill positions. And trust me, those grads want to move to Austin, sure they would rather live in Manhattan, but you better have $50M in the bank to live there or you will feel like you pauper, and graduates know that.
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They are not going to need all these employees that fast, with all the universities in Texas, they can bring in loads of graduates each year to fill positions. And trust me, those grads want to move to Austin, sure they would rather live in Manhattan, but you better have $50M in the bank to live there or you will feel like you pauper, and graduates know that.
Slummin' it in NYC is totally undesirable at my current stage in life, but that was an acceptable tradeoff for many fresh graduates I knew when I finished at UT. Back then Austin was a different town though... I'm curious how it stacks up against the allure of the bright lights of the big apple for the younger generations these days.
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They are not going to need all these employees that fast, with all the universities in Texas, they can bring in loads of graduates each year to fill positions. And trust me, those grads want to move to Austin, sure they would rather live in Manhattan, but you better have $50M in the bank to live there or you will feel like you pauper, and graduates know that.
Eh, 100K in New York is enough money to live reasonably well for a single person. Especially if you are young and Kip's Bay or Hell's Kitchen bro-scene is your jam. Or you are willing to commute in from JC or Hoboken's bro-scene.

I hired plenty of youngins at my time in Wall St for 70-85K and they were living large in their own eyes.

Granted, you aren't wrong. 100K a year in Austin will put you downtown in the nicest newest apartments pretty easily, where in NYC you would likely need a roomate or two and live in a sort of douchey area. But young people with money tend to like douchey areas.

That said, current Austin is actually a place people want to move and is honestly viewed as a tier-A city for young grads. Almost everyone I know in NYC has been to Austin more than once and really liked the city. It certainly feels small compared to NYC, but it doesn't feel like it's lacking in urban lifestyle if that is what you want. We're well past the days of having to pretend the Triangle was an Urban development. It's not to say that Austin is as "flashy" of a place to move in most young people's eyes as San Fran or NYC. But it's not a place that anyone would mind relocating to and would likely be a pretty easy sell for top tier talent to locate here after school.

Pound for pound, I would put our central apartments, food and bar scene up against NYC, San Fran or L.A. Our commute is worse than NYC or San Fran, and our name is a step below them. But if you came in for an interview Austin would not be a recruiting hindrance at all.

I think Austin is likely one of the 4-5 cities they are actually seriously considering. And we'll all wait to find out where they want to be, and most cities on their list have compelling reasons for picking them, so it'll be down to what Amazon is looking for in a new HQ.
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Slummin' it in NYC is totally undesirable at my current stage in life, but that was an acceptable tradeoff for many fresh graduates I knew when I finished at UT. Back then Austin was a different town though... I'm curious how it stacks up against the allure of the bright lights of the big apple for the younger generations these days.
agreed, "fresh grads" want to live there, but at what cost to Amazon? If you pay someone $100k in Austin...to have a similar lifestyle-living experience it's more like $150-200k to live in Manhattan That is increasing payroll by a huge amount for what company benefit? None that I can see.

I don't understand why this is not talked about. They don't need a huge existing tech workforce in Austin, they can pull recruits from the entire WORLD. They care about their bottom line. Austin has a progressive W/E Coast vibe on the cheap, in a business friendly state that has basically bucked all the economic downturns since the early 90's. We don't need to give them $7Billion incentives, because we won't tax them like Cali and the others.
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Austin has a progressive W/E Coast vibe on the cheap, in a business friendly state that has basically bucked all the economic downturns since the early 90's. We don't need to give them $7Billion incentives, because we won't tax them like Cali and the others.
Aye, this, along with the cost of living aspect you mentioned, is the main reason why Austin is considered one of the frontrunners. I too am baffled why cost of living for the employee (no local taxes) which leads to lower cost for salaries for Amazon weren't heavily weighed as factors in the numerical-based "shoot-outs" that have been published. Assuming savings of $50k/yr per employee for 50k employees, Amazon can use those $billions to build its own infrastructure as needed if planned appropriately.
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Our commute is worse than NYC or San Fran, and our name is a step below them.
Agreed that we are a step (or 7) below those cities, but I disagree regarding commute. Apples to Big Apples, no way does the commute compare. They could purchase/rent properties adjacent to wherever Amazon would choose to locate in Austin, eliminating the need for a real commute (unless they chose to). In NYC, they would have to downgrade their living quarters/location to what they could afford, which would be nowhere the campus as prices near that would hit the roof if they weren't already there. For less that $2k month, there are TONS of options close to everything in Austin, not so in SF or NYC, Boston or DC for that matter.
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Aye, this, along with the cost of living aspect you mentioned, is the main reason why Austin is considered one of the frontrunners. I too am baffled why cost of living for the employee (no local taxes) which leads to lower cost for salaries for Amazon weren't heavily weighed as factors in the numerical-based "shoot-outs" that have been published. Assuming savings of $50k/yr per employee for 50k employees, Amazon can use those $billions to build its own infrastructure as needed if planned appropriately.
there is no way they are not talking about $ behind the scenes. All companies have this worked into their formulas. Sure if it was a couple of percentage points difference, but it will be a BIG factor I believe.
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there is no way they are not talking about $ behind the scenes. All companies have this worked into their formulas. Sure if it was a couple of percentage points difference, but it will be a BIG factor I believe.
If you use NerdWallet's cost of living calculator (https://www.nerdwallet.com/cost-of-living-calculator/compare/), Austin, Dallas, Nashville, Raleigh, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Indianapolis, and Toronto (other issues there) are the bottom-dwellers in the final 20 and fall within a fairly narrow range of one another... with the top end of Manhattan (140%) (requiring you to make 240k/yr to maintain the lifestyle of your meager 100k/yr Austin salary).

ETA: I went ahead and compiled a list for anybody interested in a cost of living comparison using Austin as the benchmark.
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Atlanta, GA (+4%)
Austin, TX (+0%)
Boston, MA (+55%)
Chicago, IL (+26%)
Columbus, OH (-5%)
Dallas, TX (+4%)
Denver, CO (+15%)
Indianapolis, IN (-4%)
Los Angeles, CA (+49%)
Miami, FL (+16%)
Montgomery County, MD (+42%)
Nashville, TN (-1%)
Newark, NJ (+27%)
New York, NY (+140% for Manhattan, +83% for Brooklyn)
Northern Virginia, VA (+33%, from Bestplaces.net using Alexandria, VA)
Philadelphia, PA (+29%)
Pittsburgh, PA (-1%)
Raleigh, NC (-2%)
Toronto, ON (+6%, from Numbeo.com, complicated due to exchange rates and other obvious factors)
Washington, DC (+57%)

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If you use NerdWallet's cost of living calculator (https://www.nerdwallet.com/cost-of-living-calculator/compare/), Austin, Dallas, Nashville, Raleigh, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Indianapolis, and Toronto (other issues there) are the bottom-dwellers in the final 20 and fall within a fairly narrow range of one another... with the top end of Manhattan (140%) (requiring you to make 240k/yr to maintain the lifestyle of your meager 100k/yr Austin salary).

ETA: I went ahead and compiled a list for anybody interested in a cost of living comparison using Austin as the benchmark.
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Atlanta, GA (+4%)
Austin, TX (+0%)
Boston, MA (+55%)
Chicago, IL (+26%)
Columbus, OH (-5%)
Dallas, TX (+4%)
Denver, CO (+15%)
Indianapolis, IN (-4%)
Los Angeles, CA (+49%)
Miami, FL (+16%)
Montgomery County, MD (+42%)
Nashville, TN (-1%)
Newark, NJ (+27%)
New York, NY (+140% for Manhattan, +83% for Brooklyn)
Northern Virginia, VA (+33%, from Bestplaces.net using Alexandria, VA)
Philadelphia, PA (+29%)
Pittsburgh, PA (-1%)
Raleigh, NC (-2%)
Toronto, ON (+6%, from Numbeo.com, complicated due to exchange rates and other obvious factors)
Washington, DC (+57%)
Those are some pretty significant numbers. As a baseline comparison to the current HQ in Seattle, it looks like a +50% difference.
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Crime rate.

I’ve never heard anyone mention the importance of safety with regard to HQ2. I’m pretty sure it’s a HUGE deal for Amazon, considering it’s an Urbanist company, who focus on a diverse, young workforce (who probably have no idea what an east coast, big city crime rate looks like). We take this fact for granted living here. I know NYC is down 300% iirc, but it is still roughly double our murder rate, not to mention the others.

That’s another serious reason, along with money, to choose Austin.

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/national...9407-4d43-5403-ad56-7c47880bda8e.html#21
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