Amazon HQ2: Vancouver as a candidate?

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

When you don't get something in business- its crucial that you examine why. In fact, even if you are successful in obtaining a particular property, it is always healthy to reflect on why you were successful, and how you plan on building upon that success.

Business knows no maturity. Its black and white.
The people in Calgary seem to be genuinely upset they weren't shortlisted and are asking themselves some questions to ensure they win out next time around. Such practices may lead to other businesses relocating there. Such an approach would do wonders here. For us, it may be more about keeping business here

For some reason, we don't seem to do that here. As stated, we can be "mature" about things while we watch other cities gobble up these opportunities, or we can get our collective heads in the game to pursue these opportunities to our maximum abilities. Otherwise why bother? Why not just let other cities worry about such things why we pat ourselves on the back for being too mature to take part.

To me it just seems pretty obvious that the main reason is housing costs, if we ignore proximity. That's being talked to death and little is being done. There's just not all that much more analysis to do on the subject - there have been more than enough articles written about how high housing prices inhibit private investment.

If you think it's something else like over-regulating or something like that, then maybe, but I think it'd be a battle finding a critical mass of people to support that cause. But I still think the fact that Vancouver's been getting all this attention from Amazon anyway is why no one really cares. Or maybe people here just have a more complacent mindset, I really don't know. Regardless, I'm sure decision-makers are giving this more thought than the general public is, which is ultimately what's important. The lack of mournful news headlines to rile up growth-machine types doesn't bother me.

After all, it's one investment that will go to one city. One of Toronto, New York, Boston, Chicago, etc. will miss out on it. Should they all be beating themselves up too? Because at the end of the day, not every city can attract every company HQ. Great cities won't make it, and that doesn't necessarily even mean they're doing anything wrong.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Chikinlittle

I agree with your take on what a mall is or isn't. His comparisons are predominantly service-based retail commercial units aimed at local residents or day-time works in buildings above, as opposed to a 'shopping-mall'.

However, I disagree with how you've chosen to express yourself. I don't believe the back-handed insults to other members are required. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and responses to disagree can be easily done without throwing personal insult to the mix. As a mainstay and moderator of this forum, it should be encouraged to set the example with a more positive tone.

i tried with a positive tone several months ago.

Unfortunately Vin is the type of former to follow his confirmation biases and only accept facts that support his pre-conceived opinions and ignore those that go against what he wants to be true. His world view is simple and very black and white, with complex problems glossed over for the sake of a simple scapegoat, usually the City.

As for my actions as a moderator, I am not the moderator of this section, and therefore have no powers here and am just another participant. Perhaps I should be more tolerant of his relentless ignorance, however his divisive attitude, shallow understanding of topics and continual argumentative nature is ruining the atmosphere here and I have little patience left for it.

His juvenile posting is a detraction from the sensible rational conversations that often occur on this forum, and it would be better off without him.

[retro_orange]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

i tried with a positive tone several months ago.

Unfortunately Vin is the type of former to follow his confirmation biases and only accept facts that support his pre-conceived opinions and ignore those that go against what he wants to be true. His world view is simple and very black and white, with complex problems glossed over for the sake of a simple scapegoat, usually the City.

As for my actions as a moderator, I am not the moderator of this section, and therefore have no powers here and am just another participant. Perhaps I should be more tolerant of his relentless ignorance, however his divisive attitude, shallow understanding of topics and continual argumentative nature is ruining the atmosphere here and I have little patience left for it.

His juvenile posting is a detraction from the sensible rational conversations that often occur on this forum, and it would be better off without him.

YES! My thoughts exactly. I'm getting tired of all this vapid commenting about how everyone loves and needs malls and Vancouver hates malls.

Most arguments made by Vin are as empty as the consumerism he seems to be obsessed with.

[red-paladin]

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