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Planning committee gives OK to Salvation Army's shelter proposal for Vanier

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
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Published on: November 17, 2017 | Last Updated: November 17, 2017 10:07 PM EST


After months of rancorous debate and three long days of discussion at Ottawa City Hall, the Salvation Army’s controversial plan to build a new homeless shelter in Vanier received the planning committee’s blessing on Friday night.

With a 6-3 vote, the committee passed the political hot potato to city council, which will have the final say on Wednesday.

Several attempts to defer the final decision to a future council meeting were rejected.

But as committee chair Jan Harder concluded: “This is not the end of the conversation.”

Minutes earlier, Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury — who has steadfastly opposed the shelter project, which he contends is neither a good fit for his community nor is aligned with the city’s official plan and housing-first policy — received a standing ovation from dozens of people in the public gallery.

Speaking in French, Fleury said it warmed his heart to represent Vanier residents and highlight the concerns many have raised.

Should council give the Salvation Army’s plan a green light, the head of the SOS Vanier citizen’s group said he’s “fairly certain” an appeal to the Ontario Municipal Board will be filed.

Even though Drew Dobson said he knew the committee vote would likely go the way it did, he said “it’s disappointing.”

After facing a barrage of criticism for not properly consulting the community on the plan, Salvation Army pledged to improve.

“We could have done a better job consulting with the community and we’re trying to make up for it,” said spokesman Glenn van Gulik. “We’ve got a long road ahead.”

The charity wants to build a 9,600-square-metre facility that includes shelter, day programs, medical care, addiction services and administrative space. It would replace the Concorde Motel beside the current Salvation Army thrift store.

There would be a total of 350 beds, with the emergency shelter using 140 of them. The remainder would be for other programs.

The property needs to be rezoned for a shelter.

Over three days this week, the planning committee — and several city councillors who aren’t on the committee but will ultimately cast a vote at council — heard more than 100 delegations, including the leaders of several key social-service providers who came to the Salvation Army’s defence.

The lack of affordable housing in Ottawa, they said, means emergency shelters such as the purpose-built facility the Salvation Army proposes will continue to be needed, even as the city strives toward implementing a housing-first framework.

Current and former clients also spoke passionately of the need for the services to be provided.

But it was the dozens of Vanier residents — some of whom brought a ukulele or were joined by their children — who highlighted the complexity of the issue before committee.

Vanier is already doing its part for vulnerable people, they said, by having a methadone clinic, women’s shelter, group homes, and motels, including the Concorde, converted into emergency shelters in their neighbourhood.

Many fear the shelter will crush any chance of Montreal Road ever reaching its full potential as a thriving, attractive traditional mainstreet and bring unsavoury behaviour to a neighbourhood many have lived in for several generations.

The most controversial planning application Ottawa city council has considered since the redevelopment of Lansdowne Park landed on the public’s radar at the start of summer, when the Salvation Army filed the paperwork for its proposed facility at 333 Montreal Road.

Mayor Jim Watson was quick to come out publicly in favour of the plan, challenging opponents to suggest another location if not Montreal Road. The mayor had been clear he wanted one shelter out of the city’s historic ByWard Market.

An information session in July organized by Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury drew so many concerned residents that dozens were turned away, prompting Fleury to organize another session.

Opponents, including Fleury, quickly dubbed the Salvation Army’s proposal a “mega-shelter” and unified behind the SOS Vanier campaign, led by Drew Dobson, owner of Finnigan’s Pub.

They held protest marches on Montreal Road. More than 3,900 people signed a petition opposing the development, and the neighbourhood soon became dotted with close to 300 SOS Vanier lawn signs.

Criticized for not consulting the public sooner, the Salvation Army held its own open house at a conference — outside of Vanier — in mid-September. The public was able to pose questions directly to staff about the organization’s plans for the various services it’s poised to offer at the new facility.

The following month, the city’s planning department endorsed the Salvation Army’s request to rezone the site, and recommended committee and council do the same.

The city doesn’t have specific rules in its official land-use plan for whether and how a shelter can be built on a “traditional mainstreet” like Montreal Road. Homeless shelters aren’t on the list of things permitted, but nor are they explicitly forbidden.

A 2008 report, referred to frequently this week, did, however, conclude the number of shelters in Ward 12, which includes the ByWard Market, Sandy Hill and Vanier, should be capped at four.

The Salvation Army says its new proposed shelter would not exceed that number because it is relocating its facility from its current home on George Street — a position the planning department agreed with.

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Last-ditch lobbying ahead of Salvation Army vote

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: November 21, 2017 | Last Updated: November 21, 2017 7:53 AM EST


Time is running out for groups lobbying against the Salvation Army’s plan to build a shelter and health complex in Vanier.

The jockeying for votes heated up on Monday with at least one lobbyist for an opposition group and representatives from the Salvation Army having separate meetings with councillors, two days before the council vote.

Even Mayor Jim Watson’s office was touching base with councillors, trying to gauge where the votes will fall.

But unless several councillors have last-minute changes of heart, the Salvation Army should have a council approval in the books by Wednesday afternoon. At that point, the only thing that will stand between the organization and its $50-million development is the Ontario Municipal Board.

S.O.S. Vanier, the most vocal opponent group in the community, has made no secret that it’s preparing for a fight at the OMB.

The group’s founder, Drew Dobson, was also at city hall on Monday trying to get more councillors on his side before the council vote.

Meanwhile, Kevin Page, the co-chair of the Canadian Alliance to End Homelessness, was meeting with Coun. Mark Taylor, who’s the mayor’s special liaison on housing issues.

Page, the former Parliamentary budget officer, spoke in opposition to the Salvation Army’s project when he appeared as a delegate at the planning committee last week. Taylor, however, has said he’ll support the Salvation Army’s application.

The second-floor corner of city hall that holds councillors’ offices was hopping with activity.

More buzz filled “councillors’ row,” as it’s called, when politicians read in this newspaper the pointed comments by Coun. Mathieu Fleury, who suggested politicians have felt intimidated by the mayor’s support of the project. For councillors it’s particularly juicy since Fleury, who represents Vanier and the ByWard Market, has been viewed as a big supporter of Watson’s agenda during the mayor’s two terms.

Watson hasn’t said much more about the proposal since publicly backing the plan soon after the Salvation Army filed its development application last June.

The planning committee last Friday voted 6-3 in support of the Salvation Army’s request to build a shelter at 333 Montreal Rd. The 140-bed shelter would be part of a larger health services complex that would be built on the current site of the Concorde Motel. The Salvation Army would relocate its Booth Centre operations in the ByWard Market to the Vanier property.

The committee heard from 145 people during a three-day meeting, with many warning councillors that the Salvation Army’s plan would ruin Vanier.

However, city planners are in favour of the zoning and official plan amendments that would pave the way for the project. That’s a key detail because if council votes against the application, the city would need to spend money on an external planner to defend council’s decision at the OMB.

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Salvation Army shelter opponents now turn to OMB to reverse council approval

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: November 22, 2017 | Last Updated: November 22, 2017 7:48 PM EST


After a 16-7 loss in a council vote on Wednesday, Mathieu Fleury predicted that the Salvation Army’s shelter plan for Vanier’s main drag will fail at the province’s appeal tribunal.

Opponents have one last hope — that the Ontario Municipal Board (OMB) will rip up council’s decision to allow a shelter at 333 Montreal Rd.

Fleury, the councillor who represents Vanier, seemed confident the city and Salvation Army will lose at the OMB, citing additional concerns from the Indigenous community as another persuasive factor.

(JP Gladu, the head of the Canadian Council for Aboriginal Business, wrote to council members on Wednesday morning asking them to vote no, invoking truth and reconciliation. The Wabano Centre for Aboriginal Health wrote to the Salvation Army on Tuesday decrying a lack of consultation).

The OMB accepts appeals within 20 days of a council decision. Opponents in the community have long signalled their intention to haul the city to the OMB if council approves the application.

Council’s strong endorsement of the Salvation Army’s proposal to build an emergency shelter and social services complex happened despite overwhelming criticism of the plan.

It illustrated the tough reality of planning files at city hall: no matter how loud a community screams, there’s no guarantee council will bow to the outrage of opponents on a city-endorsed development.

There were signs of dread around the council table about making a decision.

“This has actually sickened me, this whole debate,” Gloucester-Southgate Coun. Diane Deans said during the council meeting.

Deans, who voted against the application, lamented “a failure of leadership” resulting in the OMB’s likely making the ultimate decision.

After the meeting, Fleury said he felt like a “toxic person” at city hall in recent months, claiming other councillors refused to meet with him about the Salvation Army’s plan.

On top of that, he felt blindsided by Alta Vista Coun. Jean Cloutier’s vote in support of the Salvation Army.

Fleury thought he had Cloutier’s support, and thus, more momentum coming out of last week’s planning committee meeting.

“I was shocked by his decision at committee. In my mind, that’s what would have brought the votes much closer,” Fleury said.

One man in the gallery of council chambers on Wednesday pointed and yelled at Cloutier during the council vote.

Cloutier said he was firm in his decision.

“I did not change my mind,” Cloutier told this newspaper. “I listened respectively and attentively to everyone who asked for a meeting, and that included the residents of Vanier and merchants of Vanier and Coun. Fleury and others and, like many people here at council, made up my mind based on my deliberations of the issues before us.”

But the rumours swirling around Cloutier’s vote had lingered in city hall for days and wafted into the ranks of S.O.S. Vanier, whose founder is Drew Dobson, a Vanier business owner and Alta Vista resident. Dobson said after the meeting Wednesday that he won’t forget Cloutier’s vote during next municipal election.

Dobson and Fleury criticized Mayor Jim Watson’s early support for the Salvation Army’s project.

Watson said he simply answered a question when asked about the application last June.

“The proposal came forward and members of the media asked me my opinion on it and I gave you my opinion,” Watson said. “I thought it made sense. There was clearly a need for a purpose-built facility because what we have right now is not a very effective or functional size for those men and young men who need help in our community.”

The planning committee was bombarded with 147 public delegates over a three-day meeting last week. Most were in opposition to the proposal.

But city planners scrutinized the application and concluded the shelter is an appropriate addition to Montreal Road, worthy of a property rezoning and an amendment to the official plan.

Under the Salvation Army’s plan, the operations at its Booth Centre on George Street in the ByWard Market will be relocated to the Vanier complex. The Salvation Army will use money from the sale of its George Street building to help fund the $50-million development on Montreal Road where the Concorde Motel currently stands.

The 140-bed emergency shelter will be one part of the building, which will also include 100 beds for men in various support programs, 50 beds for men in an addiction and rehabilitation program and 60 beds for men requiring specialized health care. There will be day programs for families and a coffee shop that will provide employment to clients.

Council members have struggled with reconciling a straight land-use decision with the undeniable community impact of allowing a shelter on a neighbourhood’s main street.

“At the end of the day this is going to be a divisive issue, but we have to make these decisions because we need shelters,” Watson said. “I wish we didn’t need shelters. I wish there were no shelters in any community, but the reality is there is going to be a need for shelters and they have to go somewhere.”

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How the 16-7 vote approving the Salvation Army’s shelter broke down: *

Yes votes:
  • Mayor Jim Watson
  • Orléans Coun. Bob Monette
  • Innes Coun. Jody Mitic
  • Barrhaven Coun. Jan Harder
  • Kanata North Coun. Marianne Wilkinson
  • West Carleton-March Coun. Eli El-Chantiry
  • Stittsville Coun. Shad Qadri
  • Bay Coun. Mark Taylor
  • Knoxdale-Merivale Coun. Keith Egli
  • Beacon Hill-Cyrville Coun. Tim Tierney
  • Alta Vista Coun. Jean Cloutier
  • Cumberland Coun. Stephen Blais
  • Osgoode Coun. George Darouze
  • Rideau-Goulbourn Coun. Scott Moffatt
  • Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Michael Qaqish
  • Kanata South Coun. Allan Hubley

No votes:
  • Gloucester-Southgate Coun. Diane Deans
  • Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury
  • Rideau-Rockcliffe Coun. Tobi Nussbaum
  • Somerset Coun. Catherine McKenney
  • Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper
  • Capital Coun. David Chernushenko
  • River Coun. Riley Brockington

* College Coun. Rick Chiarelli declared a conflict of interest and didn’t vote because his daughter works at the Shepherds of Good Hope, which receives funding from the same municipal program as the Salvation Army.

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Is there even the faintest hope that the OMB would overturn the approval of a project recommended by staff, supported by the mayor, approved by the planning committee and again by the full council? And (one assumes) defended by the City at the OMB? Seems like a stretch.
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Is there even the faintest hope that the OMB would overturn the approval of a project recommended by staff, supported by the mayor, approved by the planning committee and again by the full council? And (one assumes) defended by the City at the OMB? Seems like a stretch.
Yes, there is and the community has been fundraising for months. The city won't be defending, the SA will be. That is the silver lining of this loss. However, what will likely kill this proposal is funding. The SA is asking for a 250% increase in funding at a time when senior levels of gov't are committed to reducing the number of shelter beds. This building will never get built.
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Questions about process endure following Salvation Army shelter approval

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: November 22, 2017 | Last Updated: November 22, 2017 9:02 PM EST


Dozens of long-faced people filed out of city hall on Wednesday, leaving the clear impression the Vanier shelter debate has yielded no real winner or resolution. If there was agreement, of sorts, it might have been on the point that such a narrow process should not be used again to decide the difficult question of where such a facility belongs.

Yes, a majority of councillors were persuaded by the Salvation Army’s proposal and the planning department’s rationale for approving it, even as most accepted the likelihood that a future appeal will compel the Ontario Municipal Board to ultimately weigh in.

But what 333 Montreal Rd. will look like in five or 10 years is anyone’s guess.

“I don’t think this thing will get built and I’m not changing my mind on that,” concluded Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury, who has made his opposition clear in the five months since the Salvation Army’s ambitious plan became public.

How we got here

For more than a year, there’s been a sense something must be done about George Street, where the vibe outside the Salvation Army’s Booth Centre has raised concerns about open drug use, loitering and violence.

After a 30-year-old woman was stabbed to death there last year, Fleury said he was fed up with the organization. He’d “lost faith” the Salvation Army could get to the core of the issue, he said then.

A few months later, in February 2017, Mayor Jim Watson expressed his hope that one of the three emergency shelters operating within blocks of each other downtown would soon move.

The mayor also said at the time, according to a CBC report, that he’d heard the Salvation Army might have a plan to move out. In fact, the mayor knew as early as August 2016 that the charity had conditionally purchased the site now under such intense public scrutiny on Montreal Road in the heart of Vanier’s main street.

Having “heard the mayor and councillor loud and clear,” Booth Centre executive director Marc Provost agreed the Salvation Army was interested in opening a new, purpose-built shelter.

A few more months would pass before the question of where was answered.

As the sun rose on summer, the Salvation Army filed the necessary paperwork for its proposed hub of shelter, day programs, medical care, addiction services and administrative space to replace the Concorde Motel — which, incidentally, is currently under contract by the city to provide rooms when other shelters are full.

To build it, however, would require a rezoning.

What we learned

“Engage early.”

That’s Fleury’s answer to a question about how this could be done differently next time.

Whether the word is “engage” or “consult,” the point is people — particularly the residents and businesses closest to the development site in question, and those elected to represent them — want to have their say. And they want their input reflected in the end result.

In mid-September, after the seeds of discontent were already popping up around the community in the form of SOS Vanier lawn signs, the Salvation Army held an open house about its shelter proposal — at a conference centre outside of Vanier.

Perhaps the organization has since realized that wasn’t a good strategy, as spokesman Glenn van Gulik suggested to reporters after the planning committee vote last week: “We could have done a better job consulting with the community and we’re trying to make up for it.”

The lack of consultation, among other concerns, was highlighted in letters sent to city council by Vanier’s MP Mona Fortier and MPP Nathalie Des Rosiers. When was the last time federal and provincial reps felt compelled to weigh in so strongly on a municipal land-use decision?

Fortier outlined some concerns related to planning aspects, but also honed in on the social services to be provided at the proposed shelter.

“It is in my opinion disingenuous — while completely within the explicit rules governing the planning committee — to discuss this proposal in a vacuum,” she wrote.

In an interview, she said she wished the city had encouraged the Salvation Army to develop “a real economic and social study” to demonstrate how its shelter hub would impact the surrounding community.

Des Rosiers called for public involvement at the ground level — before the shape and size of the shelter is even determined — and a focus on best practices, such as harm reduction and a cap on the number of emergency shelter beds at 100.

Even with federal and provincial housing strategies in place, Des Rosiers said emergency shelters might be necessary, but only as the starting point to transitioning people to permanent housing. “We hope in the long run they wouldn’t be very big,” she said.

What happens now

Both sides will retreat to their respective corners to consider the next move.

As for the process, it’s unclear if — and exactly how — it might be changed or improved, and who would be responsible for doing that.

Though Fortier sent councillors a pointed letter, she “won’t be telling the City of Ottawa to start looking at their processes.”

Some want to “refresh the status quo” by no longer considering important planning decisions within a political and technical bubble.

Fleury points to committee mandates and, when there is overlap, joint committee hearings.

In the meantime, there are pledges to make the current plan — the proposal council just endorsed — somehow better.

“The conversation will continue,” Des Rosiers said. “We want to try to find a solution that works for everyone.”

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Yes, there is and the community has been fundraising for months. The city won't be defending, the SA will be. That is the silver lining of this loss. However, what will likely kill this proposal is funding. The SA is asking for a 250% increase in funding at a time when senior levels of gov't are committed to reducing the number of shelter beds. This building will never get built.
That is always a possibility, for more reasons than increased funding. I'm just sceptical that an OMB reversal will be one of those reasons.
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Yes, there is and the community has been fundraising for months. The city won't be defending, the SA will be. That is the silver lining of this loss. However, what will likely kill this proposal is funding. The SA is asking for a 250% increase in funding at a time when senior levels of gov't are committed to reducing the number of shelter beds. This building will never get built.
Hey do you have a source for the funding request? First I heard of that and would like to read more.. couldn't find anything via Google
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I have to say I am skeptical of the consultation/engagement argument. What changes could they possibly make that would make neighbors be more supportive? I think earlier engagement would have just led to even more opposition.
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I have to say I am skeptical of the consultation/engagement argument. What changes could they possibly make that would make neighbors be more supportive? I think earlier engagement would have just led to even more opposition.
More vocal opposition earlier, obviously.
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All 350 beds will be funded as they would be shelter beds (despite the denial by the SA and City that these extra beds are for shelter). The proposal is for an additional 210 new beds at 44 dollars a night over 365 days. In order to pay for these new beds, the city needs to come up with an additional 3.4 million dollars per year (in today's dollars) on top of the current 2.5 million already paid to the SA for the shelter on George Street. There will also be extra costs to these additional beds as they are for "treatment" (counsellors, psychologists, etc.).

The subsidies that pay for shelter costs come from senior levels of government both of which announced in their new housing strategy (coincidentally also announced on Wednesday) that the funding for shelter beds will be reduced in order to divert those dollars to Housing First initiatives.

So, while the senior levels of gov't are turning away from shelter models, the City and the SA are blindly walking into a brick wall when it comes to funding new beds. They may want this new shelter but there is no funding for it coming from senior gov't officials.

The SA has also asked for assistance for site remediation. Yes, it is a brownfield and they asked for a half million dollars to assist with soil/ground water issues. The extra snow plowing and snow removal on the narrow streets around 333 Montreal Rd to allow for tractor trailer deliveries? Yes, there is a cost to that too.

The people of Vanier were screaming this to City officials but they were deaf to the message. All the city wanted was to establish that Jim Watson met his election promise regarding shelter relocation.

In February, the City's strategy on homelessness will be under strategic review. Diane Deans is the Chairperson of the City's Community and Protective Services Committee which is conducting this review. She is against the move and expansion of the SA and is a Housing First advocate (and a member of the Liberal Party). The Vice Chair is Riley Brockington. He also voted against the SA proposal. Also on the committee are Mathieu Fleury (councillor for Rideau-Vanier) and Tobi Nussbaum (who also voted against the proposal). In the periphery are the Liberal MPP and MP for Vanier who are also against this proposal (and support their party's position).

In short, the SA is winning the battle to build but it faces major funding and political obstacles.

Lastly, there is the forthcoming objection to the OMB. The community feels pretty confident that the City's position is erroneous and that the Vanier community will win the appeal. The OMB objection is worthy of a separate comment thread to be honest so I won't delve into the minutia.
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What is the source of your information on the future SA funding model? I'm not disputing it, I just haven't seen it set out anywhere else.
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I don't think the possible lack of funding is a legally valid reason to reject a rezoning.
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Interesting article from Calgary, where they just had a nearly identical debate as Ottawa about moving a downtown shelter to a primarily residential neighbourhood. This one was specifically for homeless families with children, and it was still flatly rejected! Sad but predictable that people are more concerned with having to look at down & out people than helping a fellow human being.


Inn From the Cold abandons plans for Erlton shelter after neighbourhood opposition

Community group says it was worried about the facility’s size

By Reid Southwick, CBC News Posted: Dec 14, 2017 6:53 PM MT| Last Updated: Dec 14, 2017 6:53 PM MT

A local non-profit has axed its plans to move its homeless shelter from its downtown location to a former school in southwest Calgary after facing heated opposition from area residents.

Inn From the Cold executive director Abe Brown said the charity's current spot on 11th Avenue S.E. is not ideal for homeless families with young children looking to get back on their feet. He said the shelter is close to busy traffic and doesn't have any playgrounds.

Brown said they were in early talks to move the shelter to the site of the former Erlton Elementary School on 28th Street S.W. He said families would have had a better chance of integrating with the local community, which he said is important for those trying get out of homelessness.

"The children would actually have a chance to build relationships with some neighbours and other children," he said.

The building would have provided emergency shelter beds, short-term assisted living spaces and areas the neighbourhood could share, such as a boardroom and community garden.

'Just not compatible'

A local neighbourhood group opposed to the plan and voted at its most recent annual meeting to inform Inn From the Cold that "we have no interest in having the facility in our community."

Bill Fischer, of the Erlton Community Association, said the proposal is out of step with city planning policies for the area. He said residents are most worried about the proposed facility's size, spanning 50,000 square feet.

He said "the scale is just not compatible" with a residential community, though he said the opposition was not due to the low-income status of the shelter's would-be residents.

Brown said Inn From the Cold has walked away from its proposal, which he described as a "big idea" without any formal drawings or plans. He said the Inn isn't looking at other possible locations any time soon.

"Supporting vulnerable children and families is never a bad idea," he said. "If anything we would add value to the community as opposed to taking away value."
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City will be considering site-specific criteria for minor variances on the Salvation Army site. Basically they would not be able to expand the shelter use beyond 801 sq m without going to Council instead of CofA... and any applications for a variance must include a desription of the layout and number of beds within the 801 sq m. Basically this tries to avoid what happened for the Hard Rock Casino and some student housing projects.
http://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/agdocs.aspx?doctype=agenda&itemid=372515
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