HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > United States > Midwest


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #901  
Old Posted Jan 14, 2018, 1:09 AM
marothisu marothisu is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by the urban politician View Post
There are a few Malaysian restaurants in the evil suburbs
I've had them all - passable (the one in Logan Square is pretty decent too), but nothing I've ever had in the US whether it's in NYC, Chicago, or LA - came anywhere even remotely close to how good it is in Malaysia. My ex girlfriend was from there and she and her friends would homecook meals in Chicago that were better than any of the restaurants. None wanted to open a restaurant though Best food of any country I've ever been - China is #2 but luckily in the US in a few cities like NYC you can get Chinese food that is pretty legit. Based on the early reviews for this place by Malaysians...that could change. My friend from Malaysia is going to check it out and let me know how it is.
__________________
Chicago Maps:
* New Construction https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...B0&usp=sharing
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #902  
Old Posted Jan 14, 2018, 1:14 AM
bnk bnk is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: chicagoland
Posts: 12,706
From a small south side business I am personally involved in that got deleted in the SSP skybar for all reasons.

Anyone know why it was deleted in less than 15 mins over here?

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=231619

Last edited by bnk; Jan 14, 2018 at 5:13 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #903  
Old Posted Jan 14, 2018, 1:16 AM
Chi-Sky21 Chi-Sky21 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,332
I miss River Kwai II that used to be on Belmont near Ashland. Their Thai spicy noodle was the best i have ever had nothing ever comes close to it.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #904  
Old Posted Jan 14, 2018, 3:30 PM
the urban politician the urban politician is offline
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Chicago region
Posts: 21,372
Chicago exceeds 55 million tourists in 2017

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #905  
Old Posted Jan 14, 2018, 3:33 PM
the urban politician the urban politician is offline
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Chicago region
Posts: 21,372
Quote:
Originally Posted by marothisu View Post
I've had them all - passable (the one in Logan Square is pretty decent too), but nothing I've ever had in the US whether it's in NYC, Chicago, or LA - came anywhere even remotely close to how good it is in Malaysia. My ex girlfriend was from there and she and her friends would homecook meals in Chicago that were better than any of the restaurants. None wanted to open a restaurant though Best food of any country I've ever been - China is #2 but luckily in the US in a few cities like NYC you can get Chinese food that is pretty legit. Based on the early reviews for this place by Malaysians...that could change. My friend from Malaysia is going to check it out and let me know how it is.
That’s actually true about most cuisine.

Even the best Indian restaurants in the US are nothing compared to the Indian food you will get in India. And home cooking? Whole new level. There’s just stuff people make at home that is never served in restaurants.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #906  
Old Posted Jan 14, 2018, 4:55 PM
marothisu marothisu is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by the urban politician View Post
That’s actually true about most cuisine.

Even the best Indian restaurants in the US are nothing compared to the Indian food you will get in India. And home cooking? Whole new level. There’s just stuff people make at home that is never served in restaurants.
Yep - I've never been to India, but this is what my Indian friends/coworkers and girlfriend (was in India a few months ago) said. My girlfriend went from never wanting Indian food to wanting to order it sometimes after she got back from the country because of how much better it was over there and she wanted to try and find places here on par with it.

The only food I've had that was pretty good in America compared to the actual country was Chinese food - some places in NYC are pretty good and there's a few in Chicago that are too (girlfriend and her parents approved). That being said, there are also a lot of places across the country serving Chinese food that's not even close to the country - IMO only a few areas of the country serve it pretty well. I've found that the Chinese food in Chicago got a bit better from the time I moved to Chicago and from the time I left. There is also a place in NYC that serves good Turkish food - as good as I've had it everytime in Turkey and another in Chicago that's good too (though it is Kurdish). Interestingly I've had better Italian food in a few US cities than a few (but not all) cities in Italy.

It is funny though because people here assume because a cook is from some country the food is automatically good and authentic. Pretty much means nothing - it's like what if I went over to Morocco to open an American restaurant. I can make a decent burger, but it's nowhere even close to the best you'll ever get in America.
__________________
Chicago Maps:
* New Construction https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...B0&usp=sharing
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #907  
Old Posted Jan 15, 2018, 10:10 PM
marothisu marothisu is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,931
Sorry in advance for the long post. Thought this would be interesting regarding foreign born population. This post will be done by Community Area, change from 2010 to 2016. The data comes from the 2016 United States Census and was put together from Census Tract data. A dataset from cityofchicago.org was used to tie each census tract to the community area. There is a small set of census tracts that have parts of them in the suburbs, but the population is relatively low so I counted them as part of this - areas like Norwood Park and O'Hare mostly.

These are by country too, but there are some "other" categories that are together and counted here.

- Other South Central Asia: Bhutan, Turkmenistan, Maldives, Kyrgzystan, and Tajikistan

- Other East Asia: Macau, North Korea, Mongolia

- Other West Africa: Burkina Faso, Guinea-Bissau, Cote d'Ivoire, Guinea, Senegal, Mali, Togo, Gambia, Mauritania, Niger

- Other North Africa: Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Western Sahara

- Other South America: Paraguay, French Guiana, Suriname

- Other East Africa: Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, South Sudan, Malawi, Mauritius, Madagascar

- Other Middle Africa: Democratic Republic of the Congo, Central African Republic, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Angola, Chad, Congo, Rwanda, Burundi


I put the data in a spoiler section below because it's so big. You'll have to click on the Show button to see the data. Of course, these are estimates - should give a good idea but maybe not 100% accurate (for example, I know someone who was living in South Loop and still is who is from Malaysia, but there's a big fat 0 for it in the data. Margin of Error is greater than 0 though so at least there's that):
__________________
Chicago Maps:
* New Construction https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...B0&usp=sharing

Last edited by marothisu; Jan 15, 2018 at 11:04 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #908  
Old Posted Jan 15, 2018, 11:48 PM
pip's Avatar
pip pip is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,531
Interesting stuff there!

I don't suppose you have a total, not by group, but rather total loss and total gain?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #909  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 1:02 AM
LouisVanDerWright LouisVanDerWright is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 7,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by marothisu View Post
Sorry in advance for the long post. Thought this would be interesting regarding foreign born population. This post will be done by Community Area, change from 2010 to 2016. The data comes from the 2016 United States Census and was put together from Census Tract data. A dataset from cityofchicago.org was used to tie each census tract to the community area. There is a small set of census tracts that have parts of them in the suburbs, but the population is relatively low so I counted them as part of this - areas like Norwood Park and O'Hare mostly.
Holy dataset batman!

Seriously though, interesting stuff. Confirms a lot of the trends I've been hearing about. Few general observations:

- The Mexican population of Chicago seems highly mobile, moving into and out of areas very rapidly in these numbers.

- Certain areas had a shocking variety of people both moving into and out of them. For example, Irving Park has net gains in 20 separate groups and the same number of groups with net losses. Albany Park is the same, which isn't surprising, but you don't typically include Irving Park with immigrant heavy areas like Rogers Park, Edgewater, and Albany Park.

- In general wherever you see gentrification and/or Chinese immigration, you see Mexicans moving out. Wherever you see Mexicans moving in is generally either former Polish enclaves or African American neighborhoods.

- LOL at the huge influx of Canadians in Avondale, that's a harbinger of gentrification if I've ever heard one.

- The Chinese are moving in growing numbers to many areas on the SW side. This includes the following areas: Archer Heights, Armor Square (duh), Bridgeport, Douglas (800+), Hyde Park, Kenwood, Near South Side, Near West Side (+1406, biggest immigrant growth in the West Loop by a lot), the Loop itself gained over 1000 Chinese born residents.

- The Mexican community is moving in growing numbers largely to the South and the West from where they are now. This is happening in large numbers in Ashburn (+1032), Austin (+614), Brighton Park, Chicago Lawn (1800+!), Garfield Ridge (+1500), West Elsdon (+975), West Lawn (+798) , North Lawndale (+272), West Englewood (+475), Even Englewood gained 175.

- Fair or not, gentrification is very real particularly for certain Mexican communities, Logan Square (-2907!!) and Pilsen (-3845!!!) in particular. But at the same time you see large changes in many Mexican American areas for what appear to be unrelated reasons. For example, Little Village lost 2755, but that might be too soon to attribute to gentrification and more likely to be the result of a general unwinding of what was once historically high population densities in this area.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #910  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 2:58 AM
marothisu marothisu is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip View Post
Interesting stuff there!

I don't suppose you have a total, not by group, but rather total loss and total gain?
Not really sure what you mean...can you elaborate?



Quote:
Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright View Post
- Certain areas had a shocking variety of people both moving into and out of them. For example, Irving Park has net gains in 20 separate groups and the same number of groups with net losses. Albany Park is the same, which isn't surprising, but you don't typically include Irving Park with immigrant heavy areas like Rogers Park, Edgewater, and Albany Park.
So actually, I have data on 116 countries (and a handful of regions as "other" categories) for every single one of the 77 community areas of Chicago. I kept it to just the top 10 for each except for when there was a lot of "bigger" change. There is 1 country that is not in 2010 data, but is in 2016 data (Somalia), so I cannot provide the net change for that one though I believe you'd see a lot. I remember having a cab driver in 2015 from Somalia talking about how Somalis were moving to Chicago from Minneapolis.

Community areas by number of categories (mostly countries) with a net gain from 2010 to 2016 (this could mean even +1):
1. West Town: 61 countries with net gain
2. Edgewater: 57
3. Logan Square: 53
4. Lake View: 52
5T. Albany Park: 51
5T. Lincoln Park: 51
7T. Irving Park: 50
7T. Rogers Park: 50
7T. West Ridge: 50
10. Loop: 49
11. Near West Side: 48
12T. Lincoln Square: 47
12T. Near North Side: 47
14T. Jefferson Park: 45
14T. Uptown: 45
16. Hyde Park: 44
17. Portage Park: 43
18. O'Hare: 40
19. North Center: 39
20. North Park: 38
21. Douglas: 37
22. Lower West Side: 36
23. Near South Side: 35
24. Woodlawn: 32
25. Avondale: 31
26T. Dunning: 30
26T. Norwood Park: 30
28T. Belmont Cragin: 28
28T. Roseland: 28
30T. Austin: 27
30T. Forest Glen: 27
32T. Bridgeport: 26
32T. Garfield Ridge: 26
34T. Humboldt Park: 25
34T. New City: 25
36. Ashburn: 24
37. South Shore: 23
38T. Armour Square: 22
38T. Mount Greenwood: 22
38T. North Lawndale: 22
38T. South Lawndale: 22
42T. Clearing: 21
42T. Kenwood: 21
42T. Montclare: 21
45T. Edison Park: 20
45T. Hermosa: 20
47T. Chicago Lawn: 19
47T. Morgan Park: 19
47T. West Elsdon: 19
57T. West Lawn: 19
51T. Brighton Park: 18
51T. West Pullman: 18
53T. Archer Heights: 17
53T. Grand Boulevard: 17
53T. McKinley Park: 17
56T. Beverly: 15
56T. Chatham: 15
56T. East Side: 15
56T. Englewood: 15
60T. Gage Park: 14
60T. Greater Grand Crossing: 14
62T. East Garfield Park: 13
62T. South Chicago: 13
62T. South Deering: 13
65T. Auburn Gresham: 12
65T. Oakland: 12
67T. Calumet Heights: 10
67T. West Englewood: 10
69T. Hegewisch: 9
69T. Pullman: 9
71. West Garfield Park: 8
72. Washington Heights: 7
73. Washington Park: 6
74. Fuller Park: 5
75T. Avalon Park: 4
75T. Riverdale: 4
77. Burnside: 1

Quote:
- The Chinese are moving in growing numbers to many areas on the SW side. This includes the following areas: Archer Heights, Armor Square (duh), Bridgeport, Douglas (800+), Hyde Park, Kenwood, Near South Side, Near West Side (+1406, biggest immigrant growth in the West Loop by a lot), the Loop itself gained over 1000 Chinese born residents.
You forgot Brighton Park which had an increase of 629 people born in China as well as Near North Side with an increase of 579 people born in China. Also Hyde Park and Kenwood together had a gain of over 850. Interestingly too, New City (I think mainly Canaryville) had an increase of nearly 200 and Archer Heights had an increase over 235. Archer Heights is interesting because this just shows the natural progression of Chinese population SW along I-55. In 2010, there were 0 people born in China living in Archer Heights - now there's 235 of them in 2016. Also, McKinley Park isn't on here because the net change was literally 0, but McKinley Park has the 5th highest born in China population in the city.

Here are the top 25 areas of the growth of people born in China:
1. Near West Side: +1406 people born in China
2. Armour Square: +1350
3. Loop: +1063
4. Douglas: +816
5. Brighton Park: +629
6. Near South Side: +621
7. Bridgeport: +588
8. Near North Side: +579
9. Kenwood: +535
10. Hyde Park: +334
11. Archer Heights: +235
12. Lincoln Park: +189
13. New City: +187
14. Lake View: +164
15. Albany Park: +161
16. Norwood Park: +159
17. Lincoln Square: +124
18. Dunning: +122
19. West Elsdon: +119
20. West Town: +102
21. Garfield Ridge: +99
22. Irving Park: +96
23. Lower West Side: +88
24. Portage Park: +48
25. Mount Greenwood: +43

Here are the top 25 areas of born in China population in the city:
1. Bridgeport: 8300 people
2. Armour Square: 7567
3. Near West Side: 2609
4. Brighton Park: 2083
5. McKinley Park: 1949
6. Near North Side: 1655
7. Loop: 1646
8. Douglas: 1222
9. Hyde Park: 1191
10. Near South Side: 1054
11. Lake View: 837
12. Kenwood: 746
13. West Ridge: 555
14. Edgewater: 543
15. Lincoln Park: 540
16. New City: 470
17. Albany Park: 405
18. Uptown: 392
19. Rogers Park: 356
20. Lincoln Square: 277
21. Irving Park: 243
22. Archer Heights: 235
23. West Town: 228
24. North Park: 218
25. Norwood Park: 183



Quote:
- The Mexican community is moving in growing numbers largely to the South and the West from where they are now. This is happening in large numbers in Ashburn (+1032), Austin (+614), Brighton Park, Chicago Lawn (1800+!), Garfield Ridge (+1500), West Elsdon (+975), West Lawn (+798) , North Lawndale (+272), West Englewood (+475), Even Englewood gained 175.
I found this to be one of the most interesting things. Unfortunately, there was a lot of almost 17,000 people born in Mexico in the city in this time period. The MSA though had a gain of a few thousand which leads me to hypothesize that many have moved to suburbs. If you look at the numbers, you'll realize that a lot of the CAs that lost overall foreign born population did so either because of the mass exodus of the Mexican population or the mass exodus of the Polish population.. In many cases, but not all, without so many people leaving, we would have seen far less CAs with negative change.
__________________
Chicago Maps:
* New Construction https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...B0&usp=sharing
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #911  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:00 AM
the urban politician the urban politician is offline
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Chicago region
Posts: 21,372
^ A lot of truth in these observations. For the most part I feel like we’re looking at statistical noise, but the clear emerging trends are the growth of Chinese around downtown and just north of it, as well as southwest. It will be interesting to see if you will see enough Chinese population growth in Bronzeville to start attracting business that caters to them. Right now they are the second largest demographic in that neighborhood.

Also, Indians continue to increasingly move downtown or to areas of the north side. Again, no surprises, except that 25 or 30 years ago the former would have been much rarer than the latter.

Now who are the 17 Indian people who moved to Engelwood? The hell if I know...

Let’s also not forget that the loss of immigrants can also be due to deaths, not moves. And if their US born children choose to stick around, that will reflect as a decline without necessarily a loss in population.

Thanks, Marothisu!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #912  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:07 AM
the urban politician the urban politician is offline
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Chicago region
Posts: 21,372
Quote:
Here are the top 25 areas of the growth of people born in China:
1. Near West Side: +1406
2. Armour Square: +1350
3. Loop: +1063
4. Douglas: +816
5. Brighton Park: +629
6. Near South Side: +621
7. Bridgeport: +588
8. Near North Side: +579
9. Kenwood: +535
10. Hyde Park: +334
This is very telling. I was in a spirited debate with Segun in another thread, who was sort of denying that Chinese are moving east of the Dan Ryan. Even if you exclude Hyde Park, which naturally will attract a lot due to the University, you’ve got over 1400 gained just between Douglas and Kenwood alone
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #913  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:20 AM
pip's Avatar
pip pip is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,531
Quote:
Originally Posted by marothisu View Post
Not really sure what you mean...can you elaborate?
If you have handy in your stats the total number of immigrant gains vs losses in all the communities combined.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #914  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:26 AM
Kngkyle Kngkyle is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,125
Quote:
Originally Posted by the urban politician View Post
Let’s also not forget that the loss of immigrants can also be due to deaths, not moves. And if their US born children choose to stick around, that will reflect as a decline without necessarily a loss in population.
I suspect this is the case for the vast majority of the Polish declines.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #915  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:29 AM
marothisu marothisu is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by the urban politician View Post
^ A lot of truth in these observations. For the most part I feel like we’re looking at statistical noise, but the clear emerging trends are the growth of Chinese around downtown and just north of it, as well as southwest. It will be interesting to see if you will see enough Chinese population growth in Bronzeville to start attracting business that caters to them. Right now they are the second largest demographic in that neighborhood.
I too believe there's some statistical noise, but a lot of interesting trends as well which you would see if you had my spreadsheet and you were able to group, sort, etc. The China born population is interesting - as I noted before, the downtown area + Chinatown surrounding area has over 30,000 people born in China living in it which is pretty amazing in my opinion. That's an increase of 8000 people since 2010.

There's some other interesting trends like:
- Nigerian born population increasing by over 1100 between Albany Park, West Ridge, and Rogers Park.

- Other South Central Asian born population going from a population of 0 in West Ridge in 2010 to a population of 802 in 2016. I believe this to be populations from Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan.

- Bosnia born population increasing by nearly 1100 people in Edgewater, Lincoln Square, Rogers Park, Lakeview, Irving Park, North Park, and Uptown

- Ghana born population increasing by 725 between Lakeview, Lincoln Park, Uptown, Rogers Park, and West Ridge

- Haiti born population increasing by 754 people in further south side neighborhoods like Roseland, South Shore, Greater Grand Crossing, Woodlawn, etc

- India born population increasing by 1550 people in the downtown area. Over 3100 if you count Lakeview, Lincoln Park, North Center, Rogers Park, North Park, Edgewater and Albany Park

- Iraq born population increasing by 1334 people in Loop, Near North Side, Rogers Park, Edgewater, West Ridge, Lakeview, Lincoln Square, Uptown

- Japan born population increasing by 457 people in Lakeview, Near North Side, and Loop

- Philippines born population increasing nearly 1200 people in Albany Park, Lincoln Square, and Portage Park, but overall city-wise that population is down nearly 850 people.

There's a lot more out there

Quote:
Now who are the 17 Indian people who moved to Engelwood? The hell if I know...
ALWAYS interesting to see these types of things. Could be statistical noise, but I don't think they would have estimated people born in India living in these areas if they didn't actually survey someone from there. I kind of love those anomalies and wonder why they chose to live there. It reminds me of when I was driving through Auburn Gresham once and saw a (very) white woman walking her daughter, then in Chicago Lawn I saw a few Chinese people (outside of a Chinese restaurant).

Quote:
Let’s also not forget that the loss of immigrants can also be due to deaths, not moves. And if their US born children choose to stick around, that will reflect as a decline without necessarily a loss in population.
I was thinking about this - I wonder how many people like those born in Italy that were counted for Chatham were really old people who never moved away with the white flight, and continued to live in those neighborhoods all their lives and recently died of old age.

Quote:
Thanks, Marothisu!
I have a big excel file in case you want to look at ALL the data yourself. I bet I could upload this to Google or something....
__________________
Chicago Maps:
* New Construction https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...B0&usp=sharing
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #916  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:33 AM
marothisu marothisu is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip View Post
If you have handy in your stats the total number of immigrant gains vs losses in all the communities combined.
Are you talking about the entire city or are you talking about the gains and losses of every single country (115 of them) city wide?
__________________
Chicago Maps:
* New Construction https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...B0&usp=sharing
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #917  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:43 AM
marothisu marothisu is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,931
Here's data for the downtown area (Near North, Near South, Near West, and Loop combined):

Total Net Change: +10,439 foreign born people

Top Gains
1. China: +3669 people
2. India: +1550
3. Canada: +654
4. UK: +606
5. France: +478
6. Iraq: +433
7. Korea: +385
8. Brazil: +383
9. Iran: +292
10. Saudi Arabia: +286
11. Japan: +281
12. Nigeria: +280
13. Peru: +265
14. Ghana: +250
15. Argentina: +231
16. Pakistan: +217
17. Greece: +176
18. Italy: +143
19. Other Eastern Europe: +134
20. Serbia: +132
21. Mexico: +120
22. Bahamas: +113
23. Bosnia and Herzegovina: +111
24. Other West Asia: +102
25. Other West Africa: +93

Top Losses
1. Jamaica: -232 people
2. Israel: -158
3. Romania: -133
4. Bulgaria: -94
5. Hungary: -75
6. Philippines: -74
7. Germany: -72
8. Malaysia: -70
9. Belgium: -68
10. Sweden: -65
__________________
Chicago Maps:
* New Construction https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...B0&usp=sharing
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #918  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:43 AM
pip's Avatar
pip pip is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,531
Quote:
Originally Posted by marothisu View Post
Are you talking about the entire city or are you talking about the gains and losses of every single country (115 of them) city wide?
The entire city aggregate. Not a breakdown of all the different countries just the total. Net gain or net loss number
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #919  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:54 AM
marothisu marothisu is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip View Post
The entire city aggregate. Not a breakdown of all the different countries just the total. Net gain or net loss number
Depends on the data set (1 year or 5 year). So the one with the Census Tracts (5 year) with the data I've presented, the aggregate would be -4534 foreign born people city wide. However, when doing city wide they encourage to use the 1 year, which is +1949 foreign born people. Either way, either not big gains aggregate wise or not huge losses aggregate wise for the city, which is why I broke it down by the area - much more interesting trends that way.

The MSA is up more though - I am pretty sure that some of the big losses in the city like Mexican born population are just going to the suburbs considering the net gain for Mexican population is up a few thousand for the MSA even though the city is down nearly 17,000 for it.
__________________
Chicago Maps:
* New Construction https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...B0&usp=sharing
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #920  
Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:57 AM
the urban politician the urban politician is offline
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Chicago region
Posts: 21,372
It would be easier for a large immigrant population trend to be happening without notice if it were happening in the suburbs instead of the city. It’s easy to be sort of invisible in the burbs.

I know this would probably be a lot of labor, but it would be really neat if you could produce data like this for the suburbs as well. This would especially matter since many immigrants these days move straight to the suburbs.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > United States > Midwest
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 4:07 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.