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[LouisVanDerWright]

Chicago is also supposedly seeing a huge wave of Puerto Rican migrants since the hurricane. We have one of the larger communities here for them so we've benefited from their misfortune in the sense that we need additional residents.

[marothisu]

Regarding foreign born populations, here's something based on actual hard data from the US Census. Out of 384 MSAs for 2016, here is all the times Chicago MSA shows up in the top 10 most populous for a various country. Please note that there are tons of countries not counted for the Census because each's foreign born population doesn't show up enough anywhere. Chicago shows up in the top 10 most populated foreign born for 66 of these countries which is the most after NYC, LA, and DC.

Born in...
Bosnia & Herzegovina: 1st
Bulgaria: 1st
Lithuania: 1st
Poland: 1st
Serbia: 1st
Belarus: 2nd
Croatia: 2nd
Czech Republic+Slovakia: 2nd
Greece: 2nd
India: 2nd
Italy: 2nd
Jordan: 2nd
Latvia: 2nd
Macedonia: 2nd
Mexico: 2nd
Romania: 2nd
Ukraine: 2nd
Austria: 3rd
Belize: 3rd
Ecuador: 3rd
Germany: 3rd
Iraq: 3rd
Ireland: 3rd
Syria: 3rd
Albania: 4th
Ghana: 4th
Hungary: 4th
Israel: 4th
Korea: 4th
Moldova: 4th
Pakistan: 4th
Russia: 4th
Kazakhstan: 5th
Kuwait: 5th
Netherlands: 5th
Philippines: 5th
Argentina: 6th
China: 6th
Egypt: 6th
Nigeria: 6th
Norway: 6th
Saudi Arabia: 6th
Yemen: 6th
Belgium: 7th
Chile: 7th
Denmark: 7th
France: 7th
Guatemala: 7th
Peru: 7th
Bolivia: 8th
Burma: 8th
Japan: 8th
Morocco: 8th
Spain: 8th
Switzerland: 8th
Thailand: 8th
Turkey: 8th
UK: 8th
Australia: 9th
Iran: 9th
Malaysia: 9th
Singapore: 9th
Uzbekistan: 9th
Bangladesh: 10th
Colombia: 10th
Lebanon: 10th

[marothisu]

Here's the change in foreign born population for the Chicago MSA by country reported from 2010 to 2016:

1. India: +21,174 people
2. China: +14,847 people
3. Pakistan: +5795 people
4. Nigeria: +4364 people
5. Iraq: +3111 people
6. Mexico: +2936 people
7. Jordan: +2744 people
8. Ukraine: +2730 people
9. Albania: +2410 people
10. Honduras: +2404 people
11. Serbia: +2260 people
12. Philippines: +2205 people
13. Burma: +2137 people
14. Ghana: +1596 people
15. Syria: +1496 people
16. Saudi Arabia: +1387 people
17. Moldova: +1280 people
18. Ethiopia: +1259 people
19. Guatemala: +1245 people
20. Bangladesh: +1176 people
21. Argentina: +1073 people
22. Nepal: +990 people
23. Bosnia: +981 people
24. Haiti: +949 people
25. France: +883 people
26. Iran: +864 people
27. Egypt: +832 people
28. Macedonia: +725 people
29. Belarus: +707 people
30. Japan: +683 people
31. UK: +682 people
32. Thailand: +655 people
33. Colombia: +647 people
34. Australia: +637 people
35. Vietnam: +601 people
36. Kazakhstan: +575 people
37. El Salvador: +547 people
38. Russia: +432 people
39. Turkey: +425 people
40. Brazil: +369 people
41. Cuba: +366 people
42. Venezuela: +344 people
43. Peru: +341 people
44. Malaysia: +314 people
45. Singapore: +279 people
46. Cameroon: +263 people
47. Bolivia: +260 people
48. Morocco: +250 people
49. Chile: +217 people
50. Kenya: +214 people
51. Dominican Republic: +202 people
52. Croatia: +164 people
53. South Africa: +151 people
54. Bahamas: +137 people
55. Uzbekistan: +134 people
56. Sudan: +131 people
57. Kuwait: +116 people
58. Eritrea: +93 people
59. Liberia: +83 people
60. Ecuador: +55 people
61T. Denmark: +54 people
61T. Fiji: +54 people
63. Nicaragua: +45 people
64T. Dominica: +30 people
64T. Guyana: +30 people
66. Norway: +27 people
67. Lithuania: +6 people
68. Grenada: +2 people
69. Belgium: -13 people
70. Cape Verde: -16 people
71. Canada: -23 people
72. Spain: -40 people
73. Cambodia: -45 people
74. St. Vincent and the Grenadines: -51 people
75. Barbados: -80 people
76. Portugal: -92 people
77. Sri Lanka: -111 people
78. Israel: -166 people
79. Switzerland: -191 people
80. Panama: -217 people
81. Afghanistan: -247 people
82. Indonesia: -250 people
83. Trinidad and Tobago: -254 people
84. Uruguay: -283 people
85. Costa Rica: -407 people
86. Armenia: -434 people
87. Sierra Leone: -491 people
88. Belize: -496 people
89. Sweden: -505 people
90. Yemen: -508 people
91. Netherlands: -528 people
92. Ireland: -627 people
93. Lebanon: -651 people
94. Laos: -664 people
95. Hungary: -667 people
96. Latvia: -677 people
97. Austria: -695 people
98. Jamaica: -774 people
99. Bulgaria: -922 people
100. Czech: -1221 people
101. Korea: -1429 people
102. Romania: -1775 people
103. Greece: -1785 people
104. Italy: -1942 people
105. Germany: -3843 people
106. Poland: -10,869 people

[the urban politician]

People from Portugal are leaving?

Ay caramba!

[the urban politician]

Great stuff as always, Marothisu.

A lot to wonder with these numbers. They seem rather low for a 6 year period. Also, does the decline in foreign born mean death, or are these people simply moving elsewhere?

Also, we now have more Indians, Chinese, Pakistanis, Iranians, and Nigerians coming to Chicagoland than Mexicans. That goes to show just how much Mexican immigration to the region has dropped. That's like our third largest demographic. Staggering! No wonder our population is stagnant. We need another country to send us huge waves of immigrants like the Mexicans did in the 90s/early 2000s.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Great stuff as always, Marothisu.

A lot to wonder with these numbers. They seem rather low for a 6 year period. Also, does the decline in foreign born mean death, or are these people simply moving elsewhere?

Also, we now have more Indians, Chinese, Pakistanis, Iranians, and Nigerians coming to Chicagoland than Mexicans. That goes to show just how much Mexican immigration to the region has dropped. That's like our third largest demographic. Staggering! No wonder our population is stagnant. We need another country to send us huge waves of immigrants like the Mexicans did in the 90s/early 2000s.

The data doesn't go into detail about whether it's in/out migration or deaths, so who knows exactly. I actually attribute the declining European populations probably more to deaths than something else. From the data, you can see that foreign born wise Chicago is getting more from the middle east, south central asia, and east asia - as well as some from Eastern Europe and SE Asia. The India/China numbers aren't super high but aren't super low either relatively.

I'm curious how this plays out in the city by area/community area. I'll take a look in a bit.

[the urban politician]

^ Im very interested in seeing what the immigrant influx into the south side of Chicago is. The neighborhoods that blacks are abandoning seem ripe for some sort of takeover.

[IrishIllini]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Im very interested in seeing what the immigrant influx into the south side of Chicago is. The neighborhoods that blacks are abandoning seem ripe for some sort of takeover.

Black neighborhoods are often the last to gentrify. I think we've got quite some time before we see any significant improvements in Roseland, Austin, or Englewood, unfortunately.

I think we'll continue to see many Chicago-bound immigrants (especially those of means) bypass the city for the suburbs. Chinatown on the south side will likely continue to expand into surrounding areas, but I don't know what group of people are immigrating here in large enough numbers to have any real impact on a neighborhood like Washington Park or Englewood. I'd guess most Puerto Rican refugees are probably living in W. Humboldt Park or inner ring western suburbs. A lot of Asian immigrants end up in Skokie, Niles, Evanston, Morton Grove, or Glenview. A lot of Hispanic families in Des Plaines as well.

The bungalow belt is really the only draw in the city for modern day immigrants and their families IMO.

[emathias]

So by my math, foreign-born Chicagoans increased by 63,186 in that timeframe? About 10k per year? I'd be pretty happy if Chicago could add foreign-born residents by 100k per decade on a consistent basis.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by IrishIllini

The bungalow belt is really the only draw in the city for modern day immigrants and their families IMO.

Not sure I agree with this. Immigrants on the north side are coming to several areas, not just the bungalow belt.

What you are describing might be more true on the south side, except for Chinese which are coming to areas around Chinatown, Bridgeport, and Bronzeville to a lesser degree.

[Kenmore]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Not sure I agree with this. Immigrants on the north side are coming to several areas, not just the bungalow belt.

What you are describing might be more true on the south side, except for Chinese which are coming to areas around Chinatown, Bridgeport, and Bronzeville to a lesser degree.

yeah, albany park, rogers park, uptown, etc will remain the dominant port of entry neighborhoods for a multitude of reasons.

[IrishIllini]

Immigrants will definitely continue to find their way to the north side, but much of the north side is either already unaffordable for the typical immigrant or teetering on so. Rogers Park has quite a few 1/1 listings for $1.2k+. Uptown certainly does as well.

I think the bungalow belt is the best port of entry currently in the city. Get a good sized house and a yard at a great price. Traditional entry neighborhoods on the north side can't compete these days. They've become too desirable to people with $$$.

[marothisu]

Ask and you shall receive...at least for Born in China and India populations by community area.

Downtown area has about 7000 people born in China now. That's an increase of nearly 3700 people since 2010. Now, if you add in Bridgeport, Armour Square, Brighton Park, McKinley Park, Douglas, Kenwood, and Hyde Park, then there are just over 30,000 people born in China living in that area. An increase of about 8000 people since 2010.


Now here's what is crazy - 375,000 people live in the area above meaning that 8% of every single person who lives in that area was born in China. Although Manhattan is 4X the population (and a little over 2X the born in China population), their percentage is 4.1%. That area of Chicago is nearly 2X more than Manhattan percentage wise. Queens, which is even bigger, is just over 7%. Of course, comparing a place of 375K to another one of 1.6 million and another of 2.1 million is weird but that is pretty crazy and way higher than I ever imagined. FYI, Manhattan's born in China population only increased about 4000 people from 2010 to 2016, but of course Queens increased over 28,000 in that time

Born in China, Change from 2010 to 2016:
1. Near West Side: +1406 people born in China
2. Armour Square: +1350
3. The Loop: +1063
4. Douglas: +816
5. Brighton Park: +629
6. Near South Side: +621
7. Bridgeport: +588
8. Near North Side: +579
9. Kenwood: +535
10. Hyde Park: +334
11. Archer Heights: +235
12. Lincoln Park: +189
13. New City (Back of the Yards): +187
14. Lake View: +164
15. Albany Park: +161
16. Norwood Park: +159
17. Lincoln Square: +124
18. Dunning: +122
19. West Elsdon: +119
20. West Town: +102

2016 By Total Number of People Born in China
1. Bridgeport: 8300 people born in China
2. Armour Square: 7567
3. Near West Side: 2609
4. Brighton Park: 2083
5. McKinley Park: 1949
6. Near North Side: 1655
7. The Loop: 1646
8. Douglas: 1222
9. Hyde Park: 1191
10. Near South Side: 1054
11. Lake View: 837
12. Kenwood: 746
13. West Ridge: 555
14. Edgewater: 543
15. Lincoln Park: 540
16. New City (Back of the Yards): 470
17. Albany Park: 405
18. Uptown: 392
19. Rogers Park 356
20. Lincoln Square: 277


Born in India, Change from 2010 to 2016:
1. Near North Side: +572 people born in India
2. Loop: +488
3. North Park: +469
4. Edgewater: +314
5. Near South Side: +304
6. Albany Park: +233
7. Douglas: +224
8. Rogers Park: +203
9. Near West Side: +186
10. Lincoln Park: +125
11. West Ridge: +121
12. North Center: +120
13. Lake View: +105
14. Austin: +82
15. Woodlawn: +80
16. Lower West Side: +78
17. Edison Park: +76
18. Montclare: +73
19. South Lawndale: +53
20. Hyde Park: +49

2016 By Total Number of People Born in India
1. West Ridge: 3437 people born in India
2. Near West Side: 1916
3. Near North Side: 1829
4. Albany Park: 1368
5. Edgewater: 1276
6. The Loop: 1204
7. Lake View: 1000
8. North Park: 970
9. Douglas: 618
10. Near South Side: 617
11. Lincoln Park: 463
12. Lincoln Square: 444
13. O'Hare: 432
14. Uptown: 413
15. Irving Park: 412
16. Rogers Park: 396
17. Hyde Park: 313
18. Forest Glen: 241
19. West Town: 233
20. North Center: 218


The downtown area added 1550 people born in India which is good though it still pales in comparison to what the Born in China population did especially in the greater area. I think a lot of the people born in India are probably moving to the suburbs. The total change in Born in India population for the city proper is +1300 or so while the Born in China is almost +9000.



As far as Mexican born population in the city goes, not good - the net all together is just under -17K people. With an overall increase in Mexican born population, then we could maybe figure that these people could be moving to the suburbs.

Here's a look at the top gainers from 2010-2016 for Mexico though:
1. Chicago Lawn: +1805 people born in Mexico
2. Garfield Ridge: +1300
3. Ashburn: +1032
4. West Elsdon: +976
5. West Lawn: +798
6. Portage Park: +730
7. Brighton Park: +644
8. Austin: +614
9. West Englewood: +464
10. Irving Park: +464
11. Edgewater: +291
12. North Lawndale: +272
13. Dunning: +230
14. Hyde Park: +183
15. O'Hare: +177
16. Englewood: +175
17. Edison Park: +110
18. Loop: +108
19. Jefferson Park: +98
20. Calumet Heights: +85


Unfortunately, we also have numbers like this:
* Lower West Side: -3845 people born in Mexico
* Logan Square: -2907
* South Lawndale: -2755
* West Ridge: -1038
* Albany Park: -1628
* East Side: -1484
* Rogers Park: -1463
* Uptown: -1327
* South Chicago: -1222
* Hermosa: -1028
* Avondale: -1023
* Gage Park: -907
* Lake View: -894

etc. The top 2 are probably gentrification, especially Logan Square. Might be able to say the same about Albany Park and Uptown in small ways and Lakeview too.

[Chi-Sky21]

I would like to see the # for Indian population in the burbs. From what i have seen Indians tend to move straight to the suburbs into well established Indian communities. Sure they have all the shops up on Devon, but from my experience most do not live there. They congregate near the large temple in the burbs.

[the urban politician]

Unfortunately, Indians do in fact come straight to the burbs. They have this silly image that the dream life is in the burbs, since so many of them came from crowded, congested cities full of slums, beggars, and pollution.

New York has done a better job at keeping them in the city, although that is in Queens which is in effect a suburb. More recently they are concentrating in Jersey and Long Island.

But for Chicago, except for a smaller colony around Devon, a majority are out in the suburbs. That's not good because it is this precise population that is least connected to Chicago and would move to another region with less hesitation.

[Vlajos]

I know quite a few Indian and Pakistani immigrants that live downtown. They are younger and tech/consultants. Make loads of cash.

[Kenmore]

Originally Posted by IrishIllini

Immigrants will definitely continue to find their way to the north side, but much of the north side is either already unaffordable for the typical immigrant or teetering on so. Rogers Park has quite a few 1/1 listings for $1.2k+. Uptown certainly does as well.

I think the bungalow belt is the best port of entry currently in the city. Get a good sized house and a yard at a great price. Traditional entry neighborhoods on the north side can't compete these days. They've become too desirable to people with $$$.

700 studios are still common and all the major service providers and organizations that new immigrants depend on are in albany park, uptown and rogers park.

people aren't moving from Nigeria to the bungalow belt, lol

[IrishIllini]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Ask and you shall receive...at least for Born in China and India populations by community area.

Downtown area has about 7000 people born in China now. That's an increase of nearly 3700 people since 2010. Now, if you add in Bridgeport, Armour Square, Brighton Park, McKinley Park, Douglas, Kenwood, and Hyde Park, then there are just over 30,000 people born in China living in that area. An increase of about 8000 people since 2010.


Now here's what is crazy - 375,000 people live in the area above meaning that 8% of every single person who lives in that area was born in China. Although Manhattan is 4X the population (and a little over 2X the born in China population), their percentage is 4.1%. That area of Chicago is nearly 2X more than Manhattan percentage wise. Queens, which is even bigger, is just over 7%. Of course, comparing a place of 375K to another one of 1.6 million and another of 2.1 million is weird but that is pretty crazy and way higher than I ever imagined. FYI, Manhattan's born in China population only increased about 4000 people from 2010 to 2016, but of course Queens increased over 28,000 in that time

Born in China, Change from 2010 to 2016:
1. Near West Side: +1406 people born in China
2. Armour Square: +1350
3. The Loop: +1063
4. Douglas: +816
5. Brighton Park: +629
6. Near South Side: +621
7. Bridgeport: +588
8. Near North Side: +579
9. Kenwood: +535
10. Hyde Park: +334
11. Archer Heights: +235
12. Lincoln Park: +189
13. New City (Back of the Yards): +187
14. Lake View: +164
15. Albany Park: +161
16. Norwood Park: +159
17. Lincoln Square: +124
18. Dunning: +122
19. West Elsdon: +119
20. West Town: +102

2016 By Total Number of People Born in China
1. Bridgeport: 8300 people born in China
2. Armour Square: 7567
3. Near West Side: 2609
4. Brighton Park: 2083
5. McKinley Park: 1949
6. Near North Side: 1655
7. The Loop: 1646
8. Douglas: 1222
9. Hyde Park: 1191
10. Near South Side: 1054
11. Lake View: 837
12. Kenwood: 746
13. West Ridge: 555
14. Edgewater: 543
15. Lincoln Park: 540
16. New City (Back of the Yards): 470
17. Albany Park: 405
18. Uptown: 392
19. Rogers Park 356
20. Lincoln Square: 277


Born in India, Change from 2010 to 2016:
1. Near North Side: +572 people born in India
2. Loop: +488
3. North Park: +469
4. Edgewater: +314
5. Near South Side: +304
6. Albany Park: +233
7. Douglas: +224
8. Rogers Park: +203
9. Near West Side: +186
10. Lincoln Park: +125
11. West Ridge: +121
12. North Center: +120
13. Lake View: +105
14. Austin: +82
15. Woodlawn: +80
16. Lower West Side: +78
17. Edison Park: +76
18. Montclare: +73
19. South Lawndale: +53
20. Hyde Park: +49

2016 By Total Number of People Born in India
1. West Ridge: 3437 people born in India
2. Near West Side: 1916
3. Near North Side: 1829
4. Albany Park: 1368
5. Edgewater: 1276
6. The Loop: 1204
7. Lake View: 1000
8. North Park: 970
9. Douglas: 618
10. Near South Side: 617
11. Lincoln Park: 463
12. Lincoln Square: 444
13. O'Hare: 432
14. Uptown: 413
15. Irving Park: 412
16. Rogers Park: 396
17. Hyde Park: 313
18. Forest Glen: 241
19. West Town: 233
20. North Center: 218


The downtown area added 1550 people born in India which is good though it still pales in comparison to what the Born in China population did especially in the greater area. I think a lot of the people born in India are probably moving to the suburbs. The total change in Born in India population for the city proper is +1300 or so while the Born in China is almost +9000.



As far as Mexican born population in the city goes, not good - the net all together is just under -17K people. With an overall increase in Mexican born population, then we could maybe figure that these people could be moving to the suburbs.

Here's a look at the top gainers from 2010-2016 for Mexico though:
1. Chicago Lawn: +1805 people born in Mexico
2. Garfield Ridge: +1300
3. Ashburn: +1032
4. West Elsdon: +976
5. West Lawn: +798
6. Portage Park: +730
7. Brighton Park: +644
8. Austin: +614
9. West Englewood: +464
10. Irving Park: +464
11. Edgewater: +291
12. North Lawndale: +272
13. Dunning: +230
14. Hyde Park: +183
15. O'Hare: +177
16. Englewood: +175
17. Edison Park: +110
18. Loop: +108
19. Jefferson Park: +98
20. Calumet Heights: +85


Unfortunately, we also have numbers like this:
* Lower West Side: -3845 people born in Mexico
* Logan Square: -2907
* South Lawndale: -2755
* West Ridge: -1038
* Albany Park: -1628
* East Side: -1484
* Rogers Park: -1463
* Uptown: -1327
* South Chicago: -1222
* Hermosa: -1028
* Avondale: -1023
* Gage Park: -907
* Lake View: -894

etc. The top 2 are probably gentrification, especially Logan Square. Might be able to say the same about Albany Park and Uptown in small ways and Lakeview too.

I would say the Lower W. Side, Logan Sq., Albany Park, Rogers Park, Uptown, Avondale, and Lakeview are all undergoing gentrification. I guess you could add West Ridge to that list. Lakeview is pretty much fully gentrified, but the rest all have a ways to go. TBH, I wouldn't be totally surprised if Rogers Park flipped before Uptown. Loyola has got to be within a mile and Northwestern is probably less than 3 miles from pretty much anywhere in Rogers Park.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by IrishIllini

I would say the Lower W. Side, Logan Sq., Albany Park, Rogers Park, Uptown, Avondale, and Lakeview are all undergoing gentrification. I guess you could add West Ridge to that list. Lakeview is pretty much fully gentrified, but the rest all have a ways to go. TBH, I wouldn't be totally surprised if Rogers Park flipped before Uptown. Loyola has got to be within a mile and Northwestern is probably less than 3 miles from pretty much anywhere in Rogers Park.

Interestingly, a lot of the growth of Nigerian born people was in Rogers Park and West Ridge. Over 1000 added since 2010.

[left of center]

Well, this is out of left field...


Google eyes Chicago for up to 5,000-job office

Even while awaiting word on whether it will land Amazon's so-called second headquarters, Chicago is on the short list for another major facility by a tech giant seeking to broaden its geographic and talent base: Google.

Sources familiar with the matter say the search engine giant is in advanced discussions with officials here and in other cities—reportedly including Boston, Atlanta and Dallas—about opening an operations center that could include administrative, research, support and other personnel for Google.

While the final size of the office remains to be set, sources here and outside of Chicago say it likely would be in the range of 1,000 to 5,000 people. That's significantly bigger than the 800-plus who now work at Google offices in Fulton Market, which mostly house sales personnel and a contingent of engineers.

Both City Hall and Google are declining to comment on the search process, which has been underway for several months. "We don't comment on future plans," said a Google spokeswoman.

But sources say Google's motivation appears to be similar—if less publicized—than Amazon's in its search for a home for an HQ2 and up to 50,000 jobs: It wants to attract talented workers from Big Ten schools and others who don't necessarily want to move to expensive West Coast cities. Both companies also are at risk of tapping out their local employment pools as they compete with other tech giants.

"They're looking for something big and off of the West Coast," said one source who has discussed the matter with the company.

Source: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...usands-of-jobs